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"Our world may be a giant hologram"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:36 pm
by redsock
Our world may be a giant hologram
15 January 2009 by Marcus Chown

DRIVING through the countryside south of Hanover, it would be easy to miss the GEO600 experiment. From the outside, it doesn't look much: in the corner of a field stands an assortment of boxy temporary buildings, from which two long trenches emerge, at a right angle to each other, covered with corrugated iron. Underneath the metal sheets, however, lies a detector that stretches for 600 metres.

For the past seven years, this German set-up has been looking for gravitational waves - ripples in space-time thrown off by super-dense astronomical objects such as neutron stars and black holes. GEO600 has not detected any gravitational waves so far, but it might inadvertently have made the most important discovery in physics for half a century.

For many months, the GEO600 team-members had been scratching their heads over inexplicable noise that is plaguing their giant detector. Then, out of the blue, a researcher approached them with an explanation. In fact, he had even predicted the noise before he knew they were detecting it. According to Craig Hogan, a physicist at the Fermilab particle physics lab in Batavia, Illinois, GEO600 has stumbled upon the fundamental limit of space-time - the point where space-time stops behaving like the smooth continuum Einstein described and instead dissolves into "grains", just as a newspaper photograph dissolves into dots as you zoom in. "It looks like GEO600 is being buffeted by the microscopic quantum convulsions of space-time," says Hogan.

If this doesn't blow your socks off, then Hogan, who has just been appointed director of Fermilab's Center for Particle Astrophysics, has an even bigger shock in store: "If the GEO600 result is what I suspect it is, then we are all living in a giant cosmic hologram."

The idea that we live in a hologram probably sounds absurd, but it is a natural extension of our best understanding of black holes, and something with a pretty firm theoretical footing. It has also been surprisingly helpful for physicists wrestling with theories of how the universe works at its most fundamental level.

The holograms you find on credit cards and banknotes are etched on two-dimensional plastic films. When light bounces off them, it recreates the appearance of a 3D image. In the 1990s physicists Leonard Susskind and Nobel prizewinner Gerard 't Hooft suggested that the same principle might apply to the universe as a whole. Our everyday experience might itself be a holographic projection of physical processes that take place on a distant, 2D surface.

The "holographic principle" challenges our sensibilities. It seems hard to believe that you woke up, brushed your teeth and are reading this article because of something happening on the boundary of the universe. No one knows what it would mean for us if we really do live in a hologram, yet theorists have good reasons to believe that many aspects of the holographic principle are true. ..........

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http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ogram.html

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:08 pm
by Nordic
That became quite clear to me when I smoked Salvia Divinorum. I'm actually not kidding.

Doesn't mean that it doesn't still hurt like hell when you stub your toe ...

to people of all persuasions...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:25 pm
by jam.fuse
Salvia Divinorum is some crazy shit

Can't wait to try it again though

But do it with a 'designated driver' (never thought I'd use that phrase in a serious way), i. e., someone in a straight frame of mind

I almost walked out into brooklyn traffic in the dead of night whilst in an alternative dimension

Re: "Our world may be a giant hologram"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:54 pm
by epi
redsock wrote:The idea that we live in a hologram probably sounds absurd, but it is a natural extension of our best understanding of black holes, and something with a pretty firm theoretical footing. It has also been surprisingly helpful for physicists wrestling with theories of how the universe works at its most fundamental level.


Something with a pretty firm empirical footing but without an accepted theory is the idea of morphic resonance that when thinking about it is quite similar to:

It seems hard to believe that you woke up, brushed your teeth and are reading this article because of something happening on the boundary of the universe.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphogene ... _Sheldrake)

Edit:
And of course "gardning on salvia".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlyXs8VZvo

Re: to people of all persuasions...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:06 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
jam.fuse wrote:Salvia Divinorum is some crazy shit

Can't wait to try it again though

But do it with a 'designated driver' (never thought I'd use that phrase in a serious way), i. e., someone in a straight frame of mind

I almost walked out into brooklyn traffic in the dead of night whilst in an alternative dimension


How could you walk after smoking Salvia?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:40 pm
by ninakat
Thank you for that, redsock. Have you read "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot, from the early 90s? Mind altering, no drugs required.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:00 pm
by Col. Quisp
I've been meaning to read the Holographic Universe for many years.

When you think about it, it makes a lot of sense...explains the many synchronicities (but not why they are increasing...can someone elucidate me on that?)....


What I want to know is how to change the shape of the friggin' hologram or at least change the state of it so there's not so much hatred and poverty in it.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:16 pm
by slimmouse
Col. Quisp wrote:
What I want to know is how to change the shape of the friggin' hologram or at least change the state of it so there's not so much hatred and poverty in it.


Its tough for sure. But the problem is of course that you have 6 billion other concsiousnesses who are all doing their own thing.

Regrettably about half of them are exposed to the influences of the usual suspects

Just as long as they are watching Fox/Cnn/BBC etc, then where does it lead ?

The other half, or an even larger proportion have their work cut out even making ends meet.

Hard to make the hologram better when those who create it ( us ) are in such a state of crap.

It must be a real cool hologram for the controllers though.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:20 pm
by Perelandra
Col. Quisp wrote:When you think about it, it makes a lot of sense...explains the many synchronicities (but not why they are increasing...can someone elucidate me on that?)....

What I want to know is how to change the shape of the friggin' hologram or at least change the state of it so there's not so much hatred and poverty in it.
+1

I've been wondering if synchronicities increase as we age, they certainly have for me.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:37 am
by Occult Means Hidden
I don't see how holograms explain synchronicities. Can someone elucidate me on that? - I - think one reason they proliferate is because of a frame of mind and it's openess to recognizing patterns. The very fabric of the universe is math. It's symmetry. Parallel and perpendicular and through those threads, points on the plane.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:48 am
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Lots of people in Gaza have been reporting on their blogs that the universe is just a hologram.

Whew. What a relief.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:56 am
by monster
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Lots of people in Gaza have been reporting on their blogs that the universe is just a hologram.

Whew. What a relief.


Lots of people in non-life-threatening circumstances wonder about the nature of the universe.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:57 am
by jingofever
People, every post in this thread extends the Gaza invasion by another day. So please do your part and deconstruct magazine articles instead.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:02 am
by nathan28
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Lots of people in Gaza have been reporting on their blogs that the universe is just a hologram.

Whew. What a relief.


Hugh, as usual, you have just enough perspective to prove that you lack it. You've confused some folk theory of spirituality and related wild-eyed speculation with a C.I.A. for kids!!! plot. As one dead Vajrayanist (clearly, W.O.O. invented by the C.I.A. over fifteen centuries ago) put it to students who couldn't understand why he was so affected by the death of his son, "It is an extremely unpleasant illusion."

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:25 am
by Elvis
Occult Means Hidden wrote:I don't see how holograms explain synchronicities.


Could it be because each piece of a hologram contains the information for the whole thing?

That might explain how things like astrology and tea-leaf reading could work, and how 'key words' could keep popping up into our perception---things like that---the universe reflecting itself everywhere.

I might be babbling. I'd better go try to wrap my head around this some more. Thanks for posting that!