next round ?

Hi again. formally cease fire, at last. Could the next round be Egypt ?
just tossing...
Lurking sometimes, and writing elsewhere...
just tossing...
Lurking sometimes, and writing elsewhere...
What you don't know can't hurt them.
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22471
ISRAEL INITIATES UNILATERAL CEASE-FIRE IN GAZA; ARMY REMAINS READY TO CONTINUE
Israeli forces initiated a unilateral cease-fire in the Gaza Strip on Sunday at 2:00am local time. Although Hamas had rejected the pause in hostilities, the first several hours of truce produced no rocket fire. Then, at about 9:00am local time, a barrage of at least six rockets was unleashed against the southern Israeli town Sderot. Previously, rockets had been fired immediately after Israel’s prime minister announced the plan and the time it would go into effect. There was also an exchange of machinegun fire between Israeli soldiers and Hamas gunmen. Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said on Saturday night that for the time being the army would remain in place as the response by Hamas was measured. The army remains prepared to resume fighting and even expand operations if the order is given. Barak insisted that the military goals of the operation had been met, although Hamas remains capable of firing rockets into Israel and Israel’s captive soldier, Gilad Shalit, appears no closer to being repatriated than he was at the start of Operation Lead Cast, which began on December 27. Palestinian sources say at least 1,200 people died in the fighting and 4,000 residential buildings were destroyed.
And now North Korea is threatening to nuke South Korea? Can we say WWIII?
Seoul on alert over N. Korea threats
The South Korean government has upped military readiness in response to North Korean threats of "total" confrontation, while stressing that it would remain calm and not overreact.
An unidentified spokesman for the chief of the General Staff of the North`s Korean People`s Army on Saturday delivered a message on the state-run Korean Central Broadcasting Station denouncing the South and declaring a showdown with the Lee Myung-bak administration.
"As Lee Myung-bak and his followers have chosen the road to confrontation with the help of outside powers, we have no other choice but to assume a full confrontational stance," the spokesman said.
The message also indicated that the North may attempt military provocation, as Pyongyang said that if further provoked, it would act to "maintain its territory in the West Sea" where the two Koreas remain at odds over naval demarcation.
The North, which protests the de-facto border set by the Northern Limit Line, claimed that the South has continuously invaded its maritime territory.
Naval ships from the two Koreas have engaged in a number of bloody clashes in the West Sea on North Korean provocation.
The confrontational statement came amid an inter-Korean deadlock that started shortly after President Lee`s inauguration in February last year.
The two Koreas clashed over Seoul`s new policy which, while open to dialogue, sees denuclearization coming ahead of all else. Ignoring the calls, Pyongyang demands Seoul first deliver on agreements reached between Kim Jong-il and Lee`s predecessors.
Experts yesterday ruled out the possibility of Pyongyang delivering on its threats, but the South Korean military has been put on high alert.
Cheong Wa Dae said the military would be "fully prepared" but would refrain from overreacting.
"We plan to maintain a low-pitched stance," an official said following emergency meetings.
The ruling Grand National Party`s response was more expressive.
The GNP yesterday severely upbraided the North, saying the Saturday statement mirrored North Korea`s fear and anxiety over the lack of dialogue with the South and the unwavering U.S.-South Korea alliance.
"It has painted itself into a corner, and now it has no idea how to get back to talks with Seoul. It also tried to sabotage the U.S.-South Korea alliance, but that did not work either, so we are seeing a very fearful and nervous North Korea," the party said in a statement.
It urged Pyongyang to return to inter-Korean talks.
"Only the United States and South Korea can help you at this time," the statement said.
In a separate statement on Saturday, Pyongyang said it would hang onto its atomic weapons program until it feels safe from what it called "an ever-present United States nuclear threat."
Hours before the People`s Army message, the North Korean Foreign Ministry declared that it may not abandon its nuclear weapons program even if it normalizes ties with the United States.
Pyongyang`s ties with Washington, despite several breakthrough denuclearization agreements, have remained cool under the outgoing U.S. president George W. Bush.
The impoverished communist state reportedly anticipates a softer Washington after President-elect Obama is sworn in this week so as to enlist more economic and political support from the world`s most powerful nation.
But Obama, despite his campaign promises to meet with the North Korean leader to settle the nuclear issue, has recently indicated that he may not be as accommodating as the North expects.
Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton in a confirmation hearing last week pledged to "aggressively" address denuclearization talks to get Pyongyang to give up its nuclear ambitions.
By Kim Ji-hyun
(jemmie@heraldm.com)
North Korea suggests bombs built
SEOUL: The North Korean military has declared an "all-out confrontational posture" against South Korea as an American scholar said North Korean officials told him they had "weaponised" enough plutonium for roughly four to six nuclear bombs.
US intelligence officials had previously estimated that the North had harvested enough fuel for six or more bombs, although it was never clear if the North constructed the weapons.
The scholar, Selig Harrison, said the officials had not defined what "weaponised" meant, but the implication was that they had built nuclear arms.
After the threats, made on Saturday, South Korea ordered its military to heighten vigilance along its heavily fortified border with North Korea, a spokesman with the South Korean military joint chiefs of staff said.
North Korea's saber-rattling towards the South has increased in intensity since the President, Lee Myung-bak, took office in Seoul a year ago, vowing to take a tougher stance on the North, reversing 10 years of his liberal predecessors' efforts to engage it with economic aid. But what made the threat on Saturday more worrisome to some South Korean analysts was the way it was delivered: in a statement read on North Korean television by a uniformed spokesman for the North's joint chiefs of staff.
Usually the North Korean Government issues written statements that are delivered by the country's state-controlled media.
hava1 wrote:To the best of my understanding there is a mutual ceasefire,
hava1 wrote:for the visit of those who must be obeyed (sarkozi, brown, merkel and Italian MP all came tonight to visit Olmert).
hava1 wrote: I get the feeling, or paranoia, that the new administration is planning a big war, and ISrael will serve both as a side fire in the ME (to keep everyone busy) and lastly, perhaps as the dessert for whoever they really want to knock out. we might get a nuclear bomb from Russia or Pakistan here, who knows. And i would not be surprised if the bomb that falls here, chemical or so, is going to be "made in Israel"...
hava1 wrote:To the best of my understanding there is a mutual ceasefire, for the visit of those who must be obeyed(sarkozi, brown, merkel and Italian MP all came tonight to visit Olmert).
EU leaders commit to helping prevent Hamas from rearming
One day after Israel announced a unilateral cease-fire in the Gaza Strip, six key European leaders on Sunday pledged to work to prevent Hamas from rearming.
The commitments were offered both at the Sharm al-Sheikh summit in Egypt and at a meeting in Jerusalem with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
The six leaders - British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Italian President Silvio Berlusconi, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, who currently holds the European Union's rotating presidency - offered to provide troops and technological assistance to prevent Hamas from smuggling weapons and terrorists into the Gaza Strip, in cooperation with Egypt and the United States. They expressed support for the cease-fire in Gaza and for an end to Palestinian rocket fire on southern Israel. Olmert said that on Saturday, he also received a letter from EU leaders pledging cooperation in halting the arms smuggling into Gaza.
At the start of the Jerusalem meeting, Olmert said that Israel has no intention of staying in the Gaza Strip or reconquering it, despite its three-week offensive on the Hamas-ruled coastal territory.
The six leaders met with Olmert following the Sharm al-Sheikh conference, where they spoke with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. During the meeting, Olmert reiterated his regret over the Palestinian civilians killed and wounded during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza.
"We did not want to hurt them or their children," he said. "They are the victims of Hamas."
None of the European leaders condemned Israel for these casualties.
After the meeting, Olmert said that Israel would withdraw its troops from Gaza soon.
At a press conference preceding a dinner in honor of the visiting European leaders, Sarkozy vowed that the European Union would never harm the security of Israel.
Sarkozy also said that France would be willing to provide monitors to prevent arms smuggling into Gaza and supply technology to help locate smuggling tunnels.
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Merkel said that Israel has the right to live in peace and not under threats. Merkel added that arms smuggling into Gaza, whether by sea or by land, must be prevented and that Germany was willing to help address that matter if necessary.
Brown said that the European Union will do everything to support the cease-fire, as a step toward achieving a comprehensive peace.
The British prime minister called on Hamas to stop firing rockets on Israel and also expressed willingness to help in the effort to stop weapons smuggling into Gaza. And he urged Israel to open the border crossings into the coastal strip and to allow humanitarian aid in as soon as possible.
Berlusconi, who looked very tired during the press conference in Jerusalem Sunday, said that he was proud of the fact that it was he who put Hamas on the European Union's list of terrorist organizations. Berlusconi also promised that that he would work toward inducting Israel as a full member of the European Union.
The Italian leader also expressed willingness to provide military personnel to battle arms smuggling into Gaza. "When I heard about the rocket fire at Israel, I felt that it was a danger to Italy, and to the entire West," he said.
Zapatero, who had never visited Israel before Sunday, joined his colleagues in voicing his support for Israel, despite the harsh criticism he had expressed toward Israel during the three-week operation in Gaza. "I am moved that the cease-fire was announced when I came to Israel," he said, adding that he hoped for a renewal of the peace process.
hava1 wrote:I get the feeling, or paranoia, that the new administration is planning a big war, and ISrael will serve both as a side fire in the ME (to keep everyone busy) and lastly, perhaps as the dessert for whoever they really want to knock out. we might get a nuclear bomb from Russia or Pakistan here, who knows. And i would not be surprised if the bomb that falls here, chemical or so, is going to be "made in Israel"...
Santiago, September 12 (2003)
A Buenos Aires daily newspaper, InfoBae, has published an article today stating that the commander of Argentina’s armed forces, General Roberto Bendini, has warned that “small groups of Israelis” intend to take over the resources of Argentinean Patagonia. According to InfoBae, in a visit to combat units at the War School as well as in an article published in the military journal “Soldados”, Bendini explained the military’s current strategic policy and referred to the risks facing Patagonia. InfoBae reports that General Bendini explained to a group of captains that President Nestor Kirchner had “defined the aspirations on the part of foreign powers regarding Patagonia and the Littoral (Southern Argentinean coastline) as the principal conflict hypothesis facing the (Argentinean) armed forces”. The report stated that the military leader added that the activities of ´”small groups of Israelis” coming to Argentina “behind the curtain of tourism” are being watched. In spite of this (veil of tourism), the general said that “the supposed interest is in the largest continental reserve of potable water and hydrocarbons”, located in Patagonia.
The commander of Argentina’s armed forces, General Roberto Bendini, has warned that “small groups of Israelis” intend to take over the resources of Argentinean Patagonia.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:kenoma fuck off.
Now you are putting words in Hava1's mouth because she is living in Israel!!!
Thats one of the worst, lowest, piece of shit things I have seen on this board. And one of the few, thankfully.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:What country do you live in?