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In Sydney, RASH Sydney has organised a counter-protest in Marrickville.
Racist scum are trying to intimidate & drive out religious minorities from Marrickville, while promoting white nationalism.
They have decided to target the Marrickville Woolworths (for the grievous crime of wishing its customers ‘Happy Ramadan’) on the 26th July at 11am.
We are standing up against these hateful people to let them know their views are not welcome.
The Patriots Defence League are a newly formed group of people targeting religious freedom & culture. They see themselves as a patriotic, nationalist street movement that are ‘defending our beautiful way of life’. They do this by openly expressing their hatred of all other races and cultures.
This is not about expressing freedom of speech, it’s about causing fear & division. That’s why it must be opposed. They are targeting a religious minority, in exactly the same way Jewish people were targeted in the last century. We oppose this because unless you’re white, straight & Protestant-Christian, you’ll be next …
The ‘Boo Woolworths!’ Patriots will also be joined by the dregs in the Party for Freedom. Note that Martin Fletcher, the Vice Chairman of the Party for Freedom (a splinter from the Australian Protectionist Party, which was in turn a splinter from the Australia First Party), first came to the attention of anti-fascists when he began publishing Nazi and neo-Nazi propaganda on his website, ‘Downunder Newslinks’.
Neo-Nazis are as dangerous as pro-Russia extremists in Eastern Ukraine”
Anton Shekhovtsov
Expert on far right in Europe
jakell » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:08 pm wrote:1.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=534778#p534778
2.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=465#p535229
3.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=480#p535369
4.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=495#p535502
5.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=510#p535750
6.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=535833#p535833
7.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=660#p536983
8.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=675#p537139
9.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=537395#p537395
10) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=690#p537862
11) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=538323#p538104
12) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=705#p538427
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Here's the final part of the series I've been doing in this thread. As before I will stick to what I know, the UK situation
I have talked about the subject of British Nationalism, something that, in common with other European Nationalisms, has a degree of incompatability with any global or even pan-European endeavours. For a while, it was definitely something that could have could be used as a foil against the other, but that moment has now passed IMO, there are lessons to be learned from this though, and that is that, in actively combating something, it is not necessary to go to the opposite extremes, in fact it is probably more useful to find things that have similarities.
British nationalism has more or less died with the BNP, and while this party is still gamely struggling on, I would think that it is not long for this world. Now the field is open for white nationalism to take up the slack.
There is still scope for someone to exploit tensions within white nationalism. The contradictions and weaknesses are still there and I've described some of these in detail. From my own perspective in the UK, they seem to have moved their main conversations away from open internet forums and their current strengths and levels of organisation can only be guessed at, unfortunately leaving room for inaccurate speculation. Extrapolating from when they were still fairly open on the BDF, I would say they are still struggling to find a useful centre, and are still relying on societal collapse to provide them with opportunities. As this is a likelihood in the next few decades, this one strategy may pay off for them, even if everything else fails.
One thing I've stressed repeatedly here is not to imagine a monolithic WN culture across different countries and continents. Even though they wish for and project this, not many of their 'intelligencia' see it as a practical avenue in the short to medium term, therefore, anyone who wishes to oppose them would be wise not to buy into this belief. It would be really nice to hear from someone who can report objectively about how this scene plays out in their part of the world (the Vermont thread is a good example), as for me, I'm pretty much done with the endeavour for now. When the BNP finally closes it doors I may find a bit to say, but I can't imagine that there will be much more to add.
Making Things Worse: The Jewish Defense League’s Strategy
18 JUL
The clashes that erupted following the pro-Palestinian demonstration on July 13 in Paris are the result of the JDL’s – and those supporting them – strategy of making things worse. In the week preceding the demo, members of the JDL had announced on Twitter that they would hold a rally in support of Israel in front of the Synagogue located rue de la Roquette on that same day, just a very short distance from where pro-Palestinians would be marching . The messages that were posted on social media leave no doubt that the JDL was willingly taunting and threatening pro-Palestinian demonstrators.
Jewish people are being attacked and abused on the streets of Germany as though the country were back in the Nazi era, political and religious leaders warned yesterday.
Escalating violence between Israel and Hamas in Gaza has prompted a disturbing rise in anti-Semitism in Europe in the last few days.
Murderous slogans dating back to the days of Hitler have been chanted at pro-Palestinian rallies in Germany. Jewish-owned shops were attacked and burned in riots in France at the weekend.
The Israeli ambassador to Germany, Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, said: ‘They pursue the Jews in the streets of Berlin… as if we were in 1938.’
France has the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after the United States and Israel. It appears to have seen the worst anti-Semitic violence in recent days.
“Eight synagogues in France have been targeted in the past week,” The New York Times reports. Over the July 19-20th weekend, “a radical fringe among pro-Palestinian protesters in the French capital clashed with police, targeting Jewish shops, lighting smoke bombs, and throwing stones and bottles at riot police,” the Times reported.
“They are not screaming ‘death to the Israelis’ on the streets of Paris, ” Roger Cuikerman, head of French Jewish political group CRIF, said. “They are screaming ‘death to the Jews.’”
According to The Independent, a peaceful protest in the northern Paris suburb Saracelles “degenerated” into anti-Semitic violence. “Several cars were burned,” the Independent reported, and “three shops, including a Kosher grocery, were burned and pillaged. A railway station was severely damaged.”
In the hours following the skirmish between protesters and JDL members, more messages were posted by JDL members and supporters saying the JDL had acted out of self-defence using only their bare hands against pro-Palestinian thugs, a version that is fully inconsistent with the many pictures and videos of the scene that were widely circulated by independent media websites and militants.
The JDL is banned in the USA and in Israel on account of its extremism and explicit racism. In France, where it is legal, the organisation is regularly guilty of taunts and attacks, as was the case only the week before, when they targeted a rally in support of Gaza. On July 13, by jeopardizing the safety of people gathered in a Synagogue, the JDL has shown it’s now moving on to a new tactical step. Yet although the street fight outside the Synagogue was all over the media, journalists first failed to so much as mention the JDL’s provocations or even the rally itself, sometimes making it sound as though the pro-Palestinian protesters had intentionally planned to attack a Synagogue.
There was never an attack against a Synagogue in previous pro-Palestinian demonstrations, just like there wasn‘t one on July 13: the skirmish broke out in the street between the JDL and antifascist protesters, and there was never an attack on either the Synagogue or the people inside, which all videos shot on that day bring evidence of.
Why didn’t Jewish authorities and non-extremist organizations such as the UEJF condemn the JDL’s rally and why did the police protect the JDL? Could it be that the French authorities are hoping to criminalize pro-Palestinian support?
Ever since I have been involved with the left, I have heard the charge that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are the same.
Why then is the Zionist lobby so powerful when their own scholars write endlessly about the alienation of their youth from the movement? The answer is simple: the Jews are the richest ethnic or religious stratum in the US. Because their standard of living is so high, they are the most educated. Because they are the most educated, they are the most scientific oriented, hence most inclined towards atheism or religious skepticism. But the true believer minority still has an unbelievable amount of money to throw at the politicians.
In 1991, I interviewed Harold Seneker, then the editor of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans, for an article in The Nation. I told him that I found Jews, 2.2% of the population, to be about 25% of the 400. He told me that he thought this a success story, both for American capitalism and for the Jews, and that he wanted to write a story on it. But Forbes wouldn’t let him. The then publisher had gone thru the Hitler era, when talking about Jewish money was an anti-Semitic specialty.
This mentality is still common on the left as well, and it is wide spread among elderly Jews. Forbes, much of the left, and old Jews share what must be called a ‘folk Marxist’ mentality. Despite the differences in their politics, they all believe that history repeats itself. Someday there is going to be another 1929 Depression. The capitalists will, once again, call up central casting and get another Hitler to smash the left.
This is fantasy. It’s a projection of the past, and Germany’s past at that, into America’s future. In reality, journalists constantly turn out articles for Zionist publications about how Jewish campaign contributors play a major role in funding both parties and, very rarely, the topic is touched on in the mainstream media. “The Political Future of American Jews,” a1985 American Jewish Congress pamphlet by Seymour Martin Lipset and Earl Raab, declared that “While there have been few reliable statistics on the subject — and some reluctance to gather any — the journalistic and anecdotal evidence is overwhelming that more than a majority of Democratic funds on a national level, and as much as a quarter of Republican funds have come from Jewish sources.” They were referring to private contributions, as was an article in the 1/5/93 NY Times announcing that “Jews contributed about 60 percent of Mr. Clinton’s noninstitutional campaign funds.”
My estimate is that 84 of the latest 400 are Jews. The magazine doesn’t list religious affiliations unless the person involved is distinctive in giving to religious charities, etc. And not all of the Jews are pro-Zionists. Some listees are among the educated disaffiliated we are discussing. But Zionist money is prodigious. James Tisch, chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations isn’t on the list, altho he is CEO of Loews Corp., listed on the Fortune 500 list. But daddy, Laurence, is, at $2 billion, and uncle Preston is worth $2.3 billion. His predecessors at the Conference were Ronald Lauder, $1.8 billion, and Mort Zuckerman, who struggles along with a penny ante $1.2 billion. Chaim Sabon, $1.7 billion, is a University of California regent. Mayhaps he got the job because he gave the Democrats the largest campaign contribution in American history?
[The publisher] Lord Rothermere was a friend of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, and directed the Mail’s editorial stance towards them in the early 1930s. Rothermere’s 1933 leader “Youth Triumphant” praised the new Nazi regime’s accomplishments, and was subsequently used as propaganda by them. In it, Rothermere predicted that “The minor misdeeds of individual Nazis would be submerged by the immense benefits the new regime is already bestowing upon Germany”. Journalist John Simpson, in a book on journalism, suggested that Rothermere was referring to the violence against Jews and Communists rather than the detention of political prisoners.
Rothermere and the Mail were also editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article entitled “Hurrah for the Blackshirts” in January 1934, praising Mosley for his “sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine”, and pointing out that: “Young men may join the British Union of Fascists by writing to the Headquarters, King’s Road, Chelsea, London, S.W.”
jakell » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:53 pm wrote:I said I'd return briefly to this when the death throes of the BNP became a bit more apparent:jakell » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:08 pm wrote:1.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=534778#p534778
2.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=465#p535229
3.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=480#p535369
4.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=495#p535502
5.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=510#p535750
6.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=535833#p535833
7.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=660#p536983
8.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=675#p537139
9.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=537395#p537395
10) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=690#p537862
11) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=538323#p538104
12) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=705#p538427
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Here's the final part of the series I've been doing in this thread. As before I will stick to what I know, the UK situation
I have talked about the subject of British Nationalism, something that, in common with other European Nationalisms, has a degree of incompatability with any global or even pan-European endeavours. For a while, it was definitely something that could have could be used as a foil against the other, but that moment has now passed IMO, there are lessons to be learned from this though, and that is that, in actively combating something, it is not necessary to go to the opposite extremes, in fact it is probably more useful to find things that have similarities.
British nationalism has more or less died with the BNP, and while this party is still gamely struggling on, I would think that it is not long for this world. Now the field is open for white nationalism to take up the slack.
There is still scope for someone to exploit tensions within white nationalism. The contradictions and weaknesses are still there and I've described some of these in detail. From my own perspective in the UK, they seem to have moved their main conversations away from open internet forums and their current strengths and levels of organisation can only be guessed at, unfortunately leaving room for inaccurate speculation. Extrapolating from when they were still fairly open on the BDF, I would say they are still struggling to find a useful centre, and are still relying on societal collapse to provide them with opportunities. As this is a likelihood in the next few decades, this one strategy may pay off for them, even if everything else fails.
One thing I've stressed repeatedly here is not to imagine a monolithic WN culture across different countries and continents. Even though they wish for and project this, not many of their 'intelligencia' see it as a practical avenue in the short to medium term, therefore, anyone who wishes to oppose them would be wise not to buy into this belief. It would be really nice to hear from someone who can report objectively about how this scene plays out in their part of the world (the Vermont thread is a good example), as for me, I'm pretty much done with the endeavour for now. When the BNP finally closes it doors I may find a bit to say, but I can't imagine that there will be much more to add.
On July 21st, Nick Griffin announced his retirement from the position of Chairman of the party. this is not Earth-shaking news as the party is at present insignificant, contrary to careless impressions raised on this thread. It does however represent an end of an era in British Nationalism and raises the question of "where to next?". I expect for the BNP it means further decline and then extinction at some point.
As I've pointed out in the above pieces, the 'future' seems to lie in White Nationalism, the exact trajectory of which, in Britain at least, I've been having trouble tracing of late (also due to a change in focus, so it's partly my fault). I have however picked up some trails on the 'Western spring' website lately which is at least something more concrete than my previous unfounded speculations.
Résumé
posted by Richard Seymour
The realpolitik.
Israel will never accept a sovereign Palestinian state in "Judea and Samaria", and opposes the Palestinian unity government.
Israel blamed Hamas for the murder of three Israeli teenagers. It waged war on Hamas in the West Bank on this pretext. Hamas did not murder the three teenagers. Israel stands by its claim.
Hamas fired rockets in reply. Israel waged war by air and then land on Gaza, on this pretext.
Part of Israel's stated mission is to destroy Hamas's military capability. It isn't working.
The other part of Israel's mission is to "downgrade" Hamas's political support. Popular support is the infrastructure of any political movement.
As such, Israel is destroying Gaza's life-support systems. Hospitals, oil depots, the only power station, refugee centres, schools. War on the civilian population. This is the Dahiya doctrine in action.
Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the two regional bulwarks of counter-revolution at the moment, are deep into the planning of this war. By burying Gaza, Israel, the major regional ally of Egypt's dictatorship, might finally bury the remaining embers of the 'Arab Spring'. This is a nexus of power that is full of peril for all democratic and radical forces in the Middle East.
Israel's global allies are rattled by Netanyahu's adventurism, but firm in their fundamental strategic alignment toward the apartheid state.
The EU, as such, condemns deaths on 'both sides', but does not condemn 'both sides'. As ever, only Israel has the right to self-defence. Israel thanked its foreign ministry staff for achieving this result.
But Israel remains concerned about the other side of Europe, the protests and their echo in a growing murmur of official criticism. There is antisemitism, they point out. And certainly, there is. Even with the inventions and bogey men and bad faith invocations of Kristallnacht and the Holocaust, it is hard to miss. But, invoking this threat, Israel demands strict regulations on the format and content of future demonstrations. They want to make up what they're losing in 'soft power' with coercion. Some EU states are already way ahead of them.
Mika Brzezinski: ‘Keep it Right Here on Morning Jew’
BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff, July 30, 2014 8:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1F8ZhZIxY
MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski is having a tough Wednesday.
After interviewing Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, Brzezinski said “keep it right here on Morning Jew.”
http://freebeacon.com/culture/mika-brze ... rning-jew/
Searcher08 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:30 pm wrote:jakell » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:53 pm wrote:I said I'd return briefly to this when the death throes of the BNP became a bit more apparent:jakell » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:08 pm wrote:1.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=534778#p534778
2.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=465#p535229
3.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=480#p535369
4.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=495#p535502
5.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=510#p535750
6.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=535833#p535833
7.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=660#p536983
8.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=675#p537139
9.) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=537395#p537395
10) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=690#p537862
11) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&p=538323#p538104
12) http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22490&start=705#p538427
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13)...
Here's the final part of the series I've been doing in this thread. As before I will stick to what I know, the UK situation
I have talked about the subject of British Nationalism, something that, in common with other European Nationalisms, has a degree of incompatability with any global or even pan-European endeavours. For a while, it was definitely something that could have could be used as a foil against the other, but that moment has now passed IMO, there are lessons to be learned from this though, and that is that, in actively combating something, it is not necessary to go to the opposite extremes, in fact it is probably more useful to find things that have similarities.
British nationalism has more or less died with the BNP, and while this party is still gamely struggling on, I would think that it is not long for this world. Now the field is open for white nationalism to take up the slack.
There is still scope for someone to exploit tensions within white nationalism. The contradictions and weaknesses are still there and I've described some of these in detail. From my own perspective in the UK, they seem to have moved their main conversations away from open internet forums and their current strengths and levels of organisation can only be guessed at, unfortunately leaving room for inaccurate speculation. Extrapolating from when they were still fairly open on the BDF, I would say they are still struggling to find a useful centre, and are still relying on societal collapse to provide them with opportunities. As this is a likelihood in the next few decades, this one strategy may pay off for them, even if everything else fails.
One thing I've stressed repeatedly here is not to imagine a monolithic WN culture across different countries and continents. Even though they wish for and project this, not many of their 'intelligencia' see it as a practical avenue in the short to medium term, therefore, anyone who wishes to oppose them would be wise not to buy into this belief. It would be really nice to hear from someone who can report objectively about how this scene plays out in their part of the world (the Vermont thread is a good example), as for me, I'm pretty much done with the endeavour for now. When the BNP finally closes it doors I may find a bit to say, but I can't imagine that there will be much more to add.
On July 21st, Nick Griffin announced his retirement from the position of Chairman of the party. this is not Earth-shaking news as the party is at present insignificant, contrary to careless impressions raised on this thread. It does however represent an end of an era in British Nationalism and raises the question of "where to next?". I expect for the BNP it means further decline and then extinction at some point.
As I've pointed out in the above pieces, the 'future' seems to lie in White Nationalism, the exact trajectory of which, in Britain at least, I've been having trouble tracing of late (also due to a change in focus, so it's partly my fault). I have however picked up some trails on the 'Western spring' website lately which is at least something more concrete than my previous unfounded speculations.
The BNP is a busted flush. Griffin has no credibility.
The one thing that HAS surprised me in the last few months has been just how "Israel-first" sections of the NI Loyalists are - they were the ones attacking Pali demonstrators in London.
UKIP is very much on the rise, though the quality control of their candidates seems dreadful. Having a colorful character is fine - most Londoners are much more favourably inclined to BoJo than Cameron. However in the case of UKIP, they were a walking PR disaster zone apart from Farage, who I think is an extremely skilled, classless and down to earth political operator. Cameron is trying to tack the Tories to the Right, but most comments I read indicate a complete disillusionment with all three parties. Trouble is, although I think Farage IS a conviction politician
(Cameron and Clegg are establishment - Clegg was sponsored by Leon Brittain and Cameron goes LALALA around the deep state and ignores it, with Milliband from a New Labour of the most Ivory Tower Islington trendie left set - with several of their top members involved in the PIE scandal)
I think Nigel sees a great future for himself as well.
I wonder to what extent the BNP replacement is being discussed and designed in the halls of the Security Services as we speak?
American Dream » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:30 pm wrote:Jakell, you are being offered a free visit to the TORCH Antifascist Network’s First Annual Conference in Chicago, the weekend of September 13-14.
You don't want to go?
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