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Obama's first evil act as president

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:02 pm
by professorpan
There he goes, the dastardly wolf-in-sheep's clothing, just as predicted by the insightful naysayers:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7841492.stm

I take back everything positive I said about him. He is indeed the antichrist.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:13 pm
by Seamus OBlimey
I assume you mean that in green?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:14 pm
by stefano
So Omar Khadr goes back to his cage for at least 120 days?

Hopeful shit, man.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:16 pm
by barracuda
I thought he was gonna close that shithole day one.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by professorpan
Conventional wisdom (for whatever that's worth) is that it can't just be shut down without first figuring out how the prisoners are going to be tried and other not-so-unimportant details. Makes sense to me that it needs to be carefully and correctly.

But he (Obama) did make a promise to shut down Gitmo, and this is a first step to ending the extrajudicial military trials.

But of course, Obama is evil and a liar so this must be some kind of ruse.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:20 pm
by jingofever
Seamus OBlimey wrote:I assume you mean that in green?

Um, professorpan has always been open about his neoconservativism. And good catch pan. I expected bad things but never imagined he would cave in to the islamo-fascists in less than 24 hours. It's going to be a long four years.

More evil

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:23 pm
by professorpan
More despicable evil. Copied this from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/ ... 330/687172

Taking the first steps today in what will be a long journey to undo the damage done during eight years of the Bush administration, today President Obama issued two Executive Orders and three Presidential Memoranda, designed to usher in "a new era of transparent and open government."

Speaking to reporters, President Obama said that while the orders don't go far enough in "restoring accountability and fiscal restraint in Washington," they are a good start to regaining the trust of the American people. Describing it as a "committment to openness," Obama added that solving the problems that face our country will mean involving ordinary Americans, and announced that he will tap into the knowledge of "scientists and civic leaders, educators and entrepreneurs," to help shape policy in his administration.

The Orders and Memoranda state that:

* ... he will freeze his White House senior staff pay at current levels to the full extent allowed by law ... The President and his staff recognize that in these austere times, everyone must do more with less, and the White House is no exception.

* In the Executive Order on Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Personnel, the President, first, prohibits executive branch employees from accepting gifts from lobbyists. Second, he closes the revolving door that allows government officials to move to and from private sector jobs in ways that give that sector undue influence over government. Third, he requires that government hiring be based upon qualifications, competence and experience, not political connections.

* ... the President instructs all members of his administration to operate under principles of openness, transparency and of engaging citizens with their government. To implement these principles and make them concrete, the Memorandum on Transparency instructs three senior officials to produce an Open Government Directive within 120 days directing specific actions to implement the principles in the Memorandum. And the Memorandum on FOIA instructs the Attorney General to in that same time period issue new guidelines to the government implementing those same principles of openness and transparency in the FOIA context.

* ... This order ends the practice of having others besides the President assert executive privilege for records after an administration ends. Now, only the President will have that power, limiting its potential for abuse. And the order also requires the Attorney General and the White House Counsel to review claims of executive privilege about covered records to make sure those claims are fully warranted by the Constitution.

Update by SusanG: Tim Dickinson over at Rolling Stone observes:

Obama has just rescinded the rule that would have let Bush’s heirs continue to claim executive privilege over his papers.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:40 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
Jesus H, this is sobering stuff. I can't believe how naive I've been -- he really was exactly like McCain.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:41 pm
by Seamus OBlimey
jingofever wrote:Um, professorpan has always been open about his neoconservativism. And good catch pan. I expected bad things but never imagined he would cave in to the islamo-fascists in less than 24 hours. It's going to be a long four years.


OK, I may be drunk but I know when my leg's being pulled.

Any chance he might send all the gitmo guys to the Hague with their captors for a fair trial?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:42 pm
by InnerspaceCadet
barracuda wrote:I thought he was gonna close that shithole day one.


All part of Obama's plan to bring jobs back to America. :|


Secret List of U.S. Military Bases to Replace Gitmo

Pendleton, Leavenworth, Miramar Included as Possible New Home for 250 Detainees

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story ... 947&page=1

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:52 pm
by RocketMan
So this discredits all Obama criticism?

Call me humorless, but this is just stupid, using a piece of good news as a stick to hit people with.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:56 pm
by sunny
professorpan wrote:it can't just be shut down without first figuring out how the prisoners are going to be tried and other not-so-unimportant details


How about in a court of law, with a lawyer, prosecutor, judge, jurors, and a copy of the constitution? Stuff like that?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:57 pm
by Seamus OBlimey
It might have been better in the lounge but what should we expect of the moderators here?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:01 pm
by barracuda
The terrorists have won.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:03 pm
by Seamus OBlimey
barracuda wrote:The terrorists have won.


Got link?