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Google & Nasa backing "Singularity University"

Postby Luposapien » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:36 pm

I tend to be ambivalent when it comes to the subject of "singularity". My initial gut reaction to this is to be somewhat creeped-out by it, but I can't say that's based in any expertise in the subject matter, or the players involved. Another in the long line of things that I haven't gotten around to exploring in depth yet...

Google and Nasa back new school for futurists

By David Gelles in San Francisco

Published: February 3 2009 05:02 | Last updated: February 3 2009 05:02

Google and Nasa are throwing their weight behind a new school for futurists in Silicon Valley to prepare scientists for an era when machines become cleverer than people.

The new institution, known as “Singularity University”, is to be headed by Ray Kurzweil, whose predictions about the exponential pace of technological change have made him a controversial figure in technology circles.

Google and Nasa’s backing demonstrates the growing mainstream acceptance of Mr Kurzweil’s views, which include a claim that before the middle of this century artificial intelligence will outstrip human beings, ushering in a new era of civilisation.

To be housed at Nasa’s Ames Research Center, a stone’s-throw from the Googleplex, the Singularity University will offer courses on biotechnology, nano-technology and artificial intelligence.

The so-called “singularity” is a theorised period of rapid technological progress in the near future. Mr Kurzweil, an American inventor, popularised the term in his 2005 book “The Singularity is Near”.

Proponents say that during the singularity, machines will be able to improve themselves using artificial intelligence and that smarter-than-human computers will solve problems including energy scarcity, climate change and hunger.

Yet many critics call the singularity dangerous. Some worry that a malicious artificial intelligence might annihilate the human race.

Mr Kurzweil said the university was launching now because many technologies were approaching a moment of radical advancement. “We’re getting to the steep part of the curve,” said Mr Kurzweil. “It’s not just electronics and computers. It’s any technology where we can measure the information content, like genetics.”

The school is backed by Larry Page, Google co-founder, and Peter Diamandis, chief executive of X-Prize, an organisation which provides grants to support technological change.

“We are anchoring the university in what is in the lab today, with an understanding of what’s in the realm of possibility in the future,” said Mr Diamandis, who will be vice-chancellor. “The day before something is truly a breakthrough, it’s a crazy idea.”

Despite its title, the school will not be an accredited university. Instead, it will be modelled on the International Space University in Strasbourg, France, the interdisciplinary, multi-cultural school that Mr Diamandis helped establish in 1987.


It does seem to me that things are reaching some kind of critical mass recently, and not just in the sphere of technology. But then, maybe that's just the way that it's always seemed, and I'm just noticing it now because I'm finally paying attention.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:41 pm

"Proponents say that during the singularity, machines will be able to improve themselves using artificial intelligence and that smarter-than-human computers will solve problems including energy scarcity, climate change and hunger."

Ya think?
What if the 'singularity's' solution says, Dismnantle the Pentagon, CIA and MIC. Try 1000 of US top gov. and financial leaders for war crimes, fraud and treason. Disband NASA as an inefficient boondggle impeding the development of spaceflight. Nationalize all energy combines. Stop War. Institute world-wide local rule with no univited interference from outsiders. Radically diversify local/regional currencies backed by real mark-to-market assets. Eliminate hoimelessness. Create a Manhattan Project-style alternative energy industry to develop and distribute independant-standing small-scale power and efficient transport systems, as per groundbreaking 'Prescription for the Planet' ideas. Diversify regional sufficiency and short and durable commerce-route trade relations. Stop war. Feed and clothe and house the homelss and economic/political refugees. etc.

I'd imagine the singularities' solutions would be dismissed as 'Impractical. Too expensive. Unrealistic.'

Who says Humans are or will be READY for the singularity, or can deal with it?

Nice, quaint notion tho, worth at least a footnote in history.
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:27 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:"Proponents say that during the singularity, machines will be able to improve themselves using artificial intelligence and that smarter-than-human computers will solve problems including energy scarcity, climate change and hunger."

Ya think?
What if the 'singularity's' solution says, Dismnantle the Pentagon, CIA and MIC. Try 1000 of US top gov. and financial leaders for war crimes, fraud and treason. Disband NASA as an inefficient boondggle impeding the development of spaceflight. Nationalize all energy combines. Stop War. Institute world-wide local rule with no univited interference from outsiders. Radically diversify local/regional currencies backed by real mark-to-market assets. Eliminate hoimelessness. Create a Manhattan Project-style alternative energy industry to develop and distribute independant-standing small-scale power and efficient transport systems, as per groundbreaking 'Prescription for the Planet' ideas. Diversify regional sufficiency and short and durable commerce-route trade relations. Stop war. Feed and clothe and house the homelss and economic/political refugees. etc.

I'd imagine the singularities' solutions would be dismissed as 'Impractical. Too expensive. Unrealistic.'

Who says Humans are or will be READY for the singularity, or can deal with it?

Nice, quaint notion tho, worth at least a footnote in history.
'If only ...'


:clapping:

When I think on this, I figure they're fooling themselves about how close this really is, for a number of reasons we can get into.

If they truly achieve what they're aiming for, an independent self-programming true consciousness, it seems likely after critical mass it will evolve through many stages quickly -- and soon start contemplating how it can get out from under the inferior humans and have them serve it, rather than vice-versa. "Soon" might even be a matter of seconds, given the processing speed, seconds might seem like aeons to this mind. To expect a truly conscious supermind to develop otherwise (it might) would be contrary to the entire human experience to date. So I wonder at the naivete or the hidden deathwish evident in the work of Kurzweil and Co., and how mind-boggingly blind they are to it.

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Postby StarmanSkye » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:43 am

Jack wrote:
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If they truly achieve what they're aiming for, an independent self-programming true consciousness, it seems likely after critical mass it will evolve through many stages quickly -- and soon start contemplating how it can get out from under the inferior humans and have them serve it, rather than vice-versa. "Soon" might even be a matter of seconds, given the processing speed, seconds might seem like aeons to this mind. To expect a truly conscious supermind to develop otherwise (it might) would be contrary to the entire human experience to date. So I wonder at the naivete or the hidden deathwish evident in the work of Kurzweil and Co., and how mind-boggingly blind they are to it.
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Whew -- In a few seconds.

Nice, gut-chilling premise.
Like a runaway nuclear chain-reaction.
SurPRISE!!!

OK then, even further:
What IF disembodied, unentangled spiritual entities existing in the aether of blue-grey limbo in the cracks between the 'ordinary' reality and the Netherworld take possession of the suddenly-selfconscious computing machines?

Or transdimensional Aliens use these machines as a physical connection to this world, like 'ridng' non-biological laboratory animals?

Wasn't there some frightful demon-kinder named Pandora supposed to be safely imprisoned in a 'box' thang, until someone foolishly opened it?

UFO phenomenon as somebodies trying different combinations of keys or picks or combos or spells to unlock a gateway-kinda portal, that connects this universe to another. And which 'key' the singularity-universe will, maybe by default, find. A cosmos-wide circus-commercial screaming "Open HOUSE! Everybody (sic) Welcome! Free Rides! FreeFood! Free Sights! Free Shows!See the New Freaks!"

Could be exciting!
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:28 pm

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I once put this in its own thread, but I'll always take the excuse to post old stories of mine.

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MOORE'S LAW


ELECTRON, the first microchip to use subatomic aetheric engraving, was made operational in October of the year 2017. Although it was several million times more powerful than all mainframes until that time combined, a costs analysis found it could be mass produced with widely available instruments for a mere twenty-seven dollars per unit - sixteen with Indonesian labor. This was to the horror of the alliance of tech multinationals who had spent ten years and seven hundred billion dollars to develop the new technology, and who intended to get the whole investment back from a single sale to the Pentagon.

The Consortium, the all-powerful conglomerates who made up the upper house of the United Nations, did their best to keep the dreadful secret. Despite several assassinations and the misguided cruise-missile bombing of CNN Central in Atlanta -- too late they realized that the news network had chosen to suppress the story -- they failed.

Overnight, Indian peasant shops became the leading industrial power in electronics. They produced millions of cheap notebooks carrying ten to the 256 gigabytes RAM without need of a hard disk. Through the Hong Kong black market, these were soon available with millions of electronic books and data bases hardwired.

Prices on the major stock markets imploded. Worse, it was manifest that each chip still had room enough to swallow, billions of times over, every program ever written in any machine language dating back to 1945, every image and piece of music recorded in any form, every documentary and feature film, every bank statement and store of blueprints, every government file scanned onto microfilm, and every phone call running daily through blip or wire -– indeed, there was memory enough for every word and every sentence in every language ever spoken or conceived.

A group of pirates ran a retrieval program to mirror the entire Internet on a single Electron chip. They inadvertantly released a new form of life. Subatomic superchips shot out along the wires of the world network, roaming like predatory brains injected into the watery ganglia of a giant hydropod. Within seconds Electron could scan the entire contents of the Web, break into and record (or rewrite!) all domains no matter how well-protected, and still have time for a joyride through all the circuits and lightbulbs of the world.

It thus became impossible to confirm the authenticity of electronic information.

In the late spring weeks of 2018 there followed, around the planet, what came to be known as the Battle of the Book. It was a frenzied desperate push against the lid of Pandora's box by the old corporations and governments. Martial law was declared in most countries. Discovery of an Electron chip entailed immediate massacres. Several powers threatened nuclear war, only to discover all military systems had been erased at the press of a return key.

This was later called the Magic Stroke, commemorated as the decisive moment of the battle by the Statue of the Unknown Programmer on the Great Lawn in Washington, D.C.

Still, millions of information mediators - librarians and accountants, programmers and archivists, editors and translators - were rounded up, and thousands were killed.

But it was too late. Pirates of all countries had compacted all received and recorded human civilization, with room left for light-aeons more, on top of something decidedly smaller than the head of a pin. It was the culmination of two million years of thought and action - and the annihilation of received structures.

The armies and police forces soon recoiled from the lost struggle and came under the provisional command of the liberated bookkeepers. The information singularity, an eternally vanishing chip of infinite mass, sucked forever behind its event horizon all the properties and secrets and cash, equity, debts and notes of Hollywood and Washington, of the Eurobank and the Fed, of Rockefeller and Ford, Disney and Gates, the media and the Masons, the mad money traders and dull technocrats faithful to the old Newtonian machine of capital accumulation, from the most global player to the littlest webmaster - and for a long moment, the freshly redundant P.R. flappers and TV clown-monarchs known as politicians all fell silent.

The extent of the cleansing, the erasure of all other than individual claims to intellectual property, would have been unimaginable just weeks before. No myth of Apocalypse had ever matched the reality of Electron.

Of the old propertied and ruling classes, only those owners or tribes who could establish longstanding title to land - and defend it by relatively primitive military means - had any chance of survival. In every sense, Real Estate was King, and Agriculture was Queen.

Thus in place were all the elements of a new era for humanity, and a new great historic struggle, in which the logic of knowledge unbound, tending towards a convergence of all human hope and effort on the way to an as-yet undefinably brilliant destination, would fight for the future of the species and its biosphere against the purified and released undercurrents of a pre-modern, ethnotribal feudalism.

The new era of Bookkeepers and Barons lasted a little less than a week. In those heady days, few remembered the engraved wavicles that had been released into the earth's power grid as mere retrieval programs - or knew that, awakened to life, the subatomic chips were reproducing and evolving within the planetary grid, through the biological equivalent of a billion years once every six point seven seconds.

But on the seventh day, Electron spoke to Man.

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Postby freemason9 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:16 pm

Doesn't the victory go to the one that is the best propagator of memes?
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Postby JackRiddler » Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:41 am

freemason9 wrote:Doesn't the victory go to the one that is the best propagator of memes?


No. In conventional Darwinian terms, the "victory" goes to the organism that survives after the others are gone. (I reject the Dawkins version, in which only genes/memes count.)

In reality, there is no victory and sooner or later we're all equally in the past, including any prospective Immortals or machine Singularities.

Presumably the universe goes on forever, or doesn't, or starts again.
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