bks wrote:I think that's the point, penguin. To go from Travis the chimp to Obama implies some serious association issues.
It's not the cartoonist who has the most blame here (they're prone to pushing the envelope, given their typical job circumstances). It's the editors who decided it was fit to print.
It does not need any chimp. All it needs is the words "stimulus package". Everyone with 1/8th of a brain knows who passed it.
And knowledge of who voted NO.
This reminds me of the Muslim cartoon outrage...They were published widely, but what happened then?
Rose wrote: "The modern, secular society is rejected by some Muslims. They demand a special position, insisting on special consideration of their own religious feelings. It is incompatible with contemporary democracy and freedom of speech, where you must be ready to put up with insults, mockery and ridicule."
He later argued that the publishing of the cartoons could mean an "inclusion" instead of an "exclusion" of ethnic minorities like Muslims, arguing that Muslims at last were a part of the European societies as much as the rest of the population when there were made cartoons of their religious authorities as well. When asked: "But you depicted Muhammad with a bomb in his turban, armed with a knife and with a broken halo that resembled satanic horns." Rose replied: "The cartoon with horns didn't arouse special criticism; it was the other two. The one with the bomb in his turban doesn't say, "All Muslims are terrorists," but says, "Some people have taken Islam hostage to permit terrorist and extremist acts." These cartoons do not treat Muslims in any other way than we treat other citizens in this country. By treating them as equals, we are saying, "You are equal."
When asked whether he had any regrets about commissioning the cartoons, he said: "That is a hypothetical question. I would say that I do not regret having commissioned those cartoons and I think asking me that question is like asking a rape victim if she regrets wearing a short skirt Friday night at the discothèque." (Jyllands-Posten 11 Dec. 2005; Politiken 16 Dec. 2005)
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Holocaust cartoons
On 8 February 2006, Flemming Rose said in interviews with CNN and TV 2 that Jyllands-Posten planned to reprint satirical cartoons depicting the Holocaust that the Iranian newspaper Hamshahri planned to publish. He told CNN "My newspaper is trying to establish a contact with that Iranian newspaper Hamshahri, and we would run the cartoons the same day as they publish them". Later that day the paper's editor-in-chief said that Jyllands-posten under no circumstances would publish the Holocaust cartoons. [1] and Flemming Rose later said that "he had made a mistake".[2] [3]. The next day Carsten Juste, the editor-in-chief of Jyllands-Posten, stated that Flemming Rose was on indefinite leave because he needed time off.[4]. After some months Rose returned to Jyllands-Posten.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemming_Rose
http://www.danielpipes.org/3405/those-d ... ons-and-me
Yeah...
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10253
The Daniel Pipes apologetic article from Flemming Rose/Jyllands Posten
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Flemming "Muhammad cartoons" Rose traveled to Philadelphia in 2004 in order to meet Daniel Pipes (the neo con who’s advocating to keep US muslims in concentration camps). Here’s the translation of the article that ensued.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:07 am
