Does anti-gravity technology already exist?

[Nordic]

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Presidential Directive opens door for release of antigravity technology
March 4, 6:02 AM · 7 comments
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General Jones & President Obama shaking hands at
Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, N.C.Photo: AP

On February 13, 2009, President Obama released his first National Security Directive. Titled Presidential Policy Directive -1, it greatly expands the power of the National Security Council (NSC) to oversee all executive departments and agencies. The Directive introduces new members into top level NSC meetings including the Energy Secretary and the U.S. representative to the United Nations. Most significant is that Obama’s National Security Advisor, General James Jones (ret.), was given direct authority to develop and implement policy throughout the NSC system. Under previous Presidential administrations, a number of interagency committees were not chaired or controlled by the NSC. “Under Obama”, according to one Foreign Policy analyst, “the NSC chairs everything, though some committees can and will be cochaired.” Prior to his current appointment, General Jones was involved in a secretive Boeing Corporation effort to declassify antigravity technology for commercial application. Boeing’s declassification efforts were denied. Obama’s Directive now gives General Jones a second opportunity to have antigravity technology declassified for commercial development.

Classified antigravity technologies have been kept from the public realm for over six decades while secretly developed by military-corporate entities. It was revealed in 1992, for example, that the B-2 Bomber used electrostatic charges on its leading wings and exhaust. According to aerospace experts, this was confirmation that the B-2 used electrogravitic principles based on the Biefeld-Brown Effect. The Biefeld-Brown Effect is based on the research of Thomas Townsend Brown who in 1928 gained a patent for his practical application of how high voltage electrostatic charges can reduce the weight of objects. The B-2 bomber employs sufficiently high voltages to significantly reduce its weight. This enables the B-2 and other classified antigravity vehicles to display flight characteristics that appear to defy conventional laws of physics. The idea that advanced antigravity technologies exist and have been developed by military-corporate entities is supported by the former CEO for Lockheed Skunk works. Ben Rich said:

We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.. anything you can imagine we already know how to do.

More at link. I originally found this here:

http://www.roguegovernment.com/

Which is a pretty cool site ....


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[justdrew]

Noshir Gowadia, a design engineer who worked on the B-2's propulsion system, was arrested in October 2005 for selling B-2 related classified information to foreign countries. His trial was initially scheduled for 12 February 2008, but he received a continuance.

well I don't know, I'm fairly skeptical of the idea that we have working anti-grav tech... but... maybe the cat is already out of the bag?

[wintler2]

Humans have done alot with electrical charges, never heard of them reducing weight/mass. Any levitating transformers in your street?

[Joe Hillshoist]

What do you think of lifters wintler?

They appear to be thrust based structures, not genuine anti gravity. (ie messing with mass.)

But time will tell, so much stuff has been done in the last 10 years that I never thought I'd see.

[Sounder]

Does anti-gravity technology already exist?

Yes, just as the priests discouraged bible reading for a long time, the true 'bible' of scientists is kept well hidden. Foolish believers, don't even know why they believe, but they sure know what.

No, don't be absurd, science is a public pursuit, besides it would spoil our bitchfest over GW and so many other 'important' arguments we must attend too.

[JD]

Bill Gunston is one of the most prominent aviation journalists in the world.

NOT a conspiracy guy. A very dry, proper British aviation journalist who has been at the top of the heap for years.

Five or more years ago in there was a very passing reference to the B2 bomber using "electrogravitics" to reduce the effect of gravity on it.

WTF!

I've seen the issue; and have the followup one in my library where it is addressed a bit further.

An interesting followup to the article; I think the book "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Janes Defence journalist Nick Cook was a disinformation effort to obscure the B2 antigravitics leak.

Anyways, I wanted to post the article. It has always been accessible on the internet. Yet........ I searched Google under various combinations of "B2 electrogravitics gunston air international" and danged I can't find the original article.

There are a bunch of articles if you simply search B2 electrogravitics; maybe it is to found within them. BUT; they don't have the authority of Bill Gunston; that was so sweet getting such a prominent guy in his field dryly talking about the impossible.

So; yeah I think there is a real possibility that anti-gravity devices are being operationally employed now. May explain the massive black triangles folks have witnessed, they may be black operational aircraft of amazing capabilities.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Welcome to the National Enquirer version of RI. apologies for kicking...
Don't leave out the source, Nordic. That's kinda important.

It's bullshitter supreme Michael Salla, a guy who steers us to 'UN meetings with space aliens' as "reported" by "Clay and Shawn Pickering" on the anniversary of Clay Shaw's trial for conspiring to kill JFK.

Videos of "Clay and Shawn Pickering" reveal them to be FBI-lookin' guys talking the worst trash they can think up.

Michael Salla's disinfo site-
http://www.exopolitics.org/

[Sounder]

Hugh, do you think that Anti-gravity exists?

My brother and friend saw a black triangle up close. They said nothing to each other until they found pencil and paper and each drew a picture of it.
Their drawings convinced themselves that what they saw was 'real'.

[nathan28]

HMW, you're 0 for 2 on Teh Scienz (lol) this week

"anti-gravity" technology? i just picked my mouse up off the table with an anti-gravity technology called an "arm."

plasma propulsion (fire from the sky?) like the type that would be "UFO-like" has been done in labs. additionally those UFOs that keep "disappearing" over US military bases in europe might be a place to look

[psynapz]

Lifters operate on the Biefeld–Brown Effect and are supposedly very easy to make.

Apparently anti-gravity can be achieved in a vacuum using "lifter-like" asymmetrical capacitors which were tested at NASA. And of course by spinning.

Antigravity is antigravity (see the variety in this list of patents), but I think the popular definition includes anything that's not gross mechanical aerodynamic lift like a helicopter, regardless of whether it's an ionized flight surface that moves air around it faster (Biefeld-Brown) or an EHD thruster, or something that doesn't require an atmosphere like the asymmetrical capacitors.

On Edit: I forgot about the Hutchison Effect! Can't get any more antigravity than floating stuff of any mass in a mysterious high-energy field in your home RF lab. The man himself has an awful-looking site full of coolness up too.

[nathan28]

Someone needs to clarify what "antigravity" means. You mean levitation? or destroying a fundamental physical force? I'm confused (KWH!)

[psynapz]

Someone needs to clarify what "antigravity" means. You mean levitation? or destroying a fundamental physical force? I'm confused (KWH!)

[Sounder]

nathan wrote...

destroying a fundamental physical force?

If we were to find that charge entered into the nature of gravity, then it's not about 'destroying a fundamental physical force', merely reinterpreting its nature.

(Or some other element not considered in the hoary days of old)

Some say that the original experiments (attraction of two big balls), showed variation with temperature. The feeling from the fringe is that people are so desperate to verify what they think we already know that little real science is going on.

[JD]

So; yeah I think there is a real possibility that anti-gravity devices are being operationally employed now. May explain the massive black triangles folks have witnessed, they may be black operational aircraft of amazing capabilities.

Like this:

http://tinyurl.com/d4uqkp

Triangular UFO spotted by two South African pilots
March 24, 9:42 PM

A South African couple was witness to a 300-foot long black, silent, triangular-shaped UFO that "blocked out the stars" as it moved across the sky over their back yard.

The 10-second sighting by these two pilots in May 1996 is something that they will never forget.

Following is the original account from the witnesses. Only minor edits were made.

We are Brian & Lynette van Malsen from a town called Springs 50 miles east of Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa.

And we saw what your witnesses saw in your UFO news of AZ town in exact detail only 13 year's earlier.

We are both retired pilots and very aware of things in the sky. And we can recall our sighting like it happened yesterday.

No kidding. It was May 1996 ( fall ) at sun set just after 5 p.m. We had just finished supper. at 6:45 p.m. and went for a walk in our back yard to look for a satellite that used to track NW to SE at that time. We saw our satellite and started to walk North back to the house and as we walked I looked up at the evening sky.

The very next instant I saw the UFO ( clear as daylight ) moving South to North at about 3 times the speed of a commercial jet, round about 7,500 to 10,000 feet.

Shouted to Lynette to look and she saw it too. I immediately listened for sound, but nothing, thinking at first it was some
NATO stealth jet?

But over my suburb in South Africa at low altitude - impossible?

Joburg Int ATC would have it on radar as this is a special rules flying area ith three military air base in a 60 mile radius - Dunnotar military flying school down the road a few miles ( flying SAAF Harvard's / T6 Texans noisy & slow ) and then Waterkoof and Swartkops airbases near Pretoria.

We got to watch this UFO for about 10 seconds and this is what we saw.

A black triangular shape, but with more of a wing profile, 300+ feet long , blocking out the stars. Not a sound, with dull red wing tip lights also down the trailing edges of the wings. I know of nothing that can move that fast without noise.

Well this is closure for us. We must have seen something!

Kindest Regards

Brian & Lynette van Malsen

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Skyvel21 says:

We saw exactly the same thing in Valdivia -Chile on 19th September 1999 at 07:25 P.M. aproach very low from the North-West to us and make a 90° very low turn and runs to North East at Mach 8-10 in only 1 second. It had the same nav lights in on the top and it had very strong white-yellow lights on the bottom.

Its was Triangle and from the side it was like a sport shoe.

March 25, 7:52 AM

[compared2what?]

Is there maybe a confusion stemming from the conflation of anti-gravity with zero gravity? Because if there is: An extra-super-fancy wave-pulsed method of inducing the weight reduction (and consequently) the lifting of an object is a very, very different kind of a scientific leap forward than an extra-super-fancy wave-pulsed method of achieving total weightlessness would be.