Did Paranoid Right-Wing Media Fuel the Pittsburgh Cop Killer

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Postby timetunneler » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:07 am

yathrib wrote:Just a thought: Maybe these people (Alex Jones, et al) *aren't* our friends.


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And you would probably be right.

yathrib wrote:But hysterical warnings of government gun grabs and a socialist takeover of the U.S. are no longer the sole proprietary interest of fringe players like Jones. In the Obama era, Jones' conspiracy theories have graduated to primetime on Fox News. And radicals like Poplawski are tuning in. Indeed, according to the Anti-Defamation League, the alleged killer posted a YouTube clip to Stormfront of top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck contemplating the existence of FEMA-managed concentration camps. ("He backed out," Poplawski wrote cryptically beside the video.) Three weeks later, Poplawski posted another Youtube clip to Stormfront, this time of a video blogger advocating "Tea Parties," or grassroots conservative protests organized by Beck and Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich (see here and here) against President Barack Obama's bailout plan.

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Jones has gradually come to be accepted by the right-wing media. In September 2007, Jones interrupted a live broadcast by Fox News host Geraldo Rivera (Rivera was reporting at the time on "the secret world of restroom gay sex") by shouting into a megaphone, "9-11 was an inside job!" He was hauled away by NYPD officers soon after. On March 18, however, Jones became a guest of honor inside Fox studios, introduced as "the great Alex Jones" by Fox News contributor Judge Andrew Napolitano during a lengthy segment on the online show, The Strategy Room. Towards the end of his spot, Jones celebrated his sudden and dramatic influence on the conservative movement's biggest media personalities.

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"I've never seen an awakening this big. I'm seeing Glenn Beck talk about the New World Order on Fox, I'm seeing you talk about it," Jones told Napolitano. "We're seeing Lou Dobbs talk about it, we're seeing mainline hosts--Limbaugh's even talking about global government. Michael Savage is talking about how Obama may stage crises to bring in martial law. So all the things that I was talking about in the wilderness ten plus years ago are now hitting mainstream, and it is great!"

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For Jones, whatever bad publicity he incurred from a fan's alleged killing spree paled in significance to the sudden cachet he has gained among conservative media bigwigs. During his April 6 broadcast, two days after the murders, he boasted, "Now, if you listen to [Sean] Hannity's show, if you listen to Savage; you listen to Limbaugh, it's almost like Alex Jones is hosting the show."


Nice to see America's 5th column getting all backed up in the corner all ass to mouth like this. Guess they need to stick close so they can make sure their narrative of "Obama's Coming New World Order" stays cohesive. You've got China offering to go dutch with a new world currency so it's all coming together right? If Obama will just play along. Fox and Alex Jones together stirring up the mobs and pointing fingers at the Fedral Gubbmint and the coming New World Order. Good times. Something big must be around the corner again like in 2001? These guys after all had a knack for prediction...

Fox's Lone Gunmen
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March 2001 : Pilot episode debuts in March 2001 and predicts wargames, counter terror operations, World Trade Center getting hit by remote control planes. Nailed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is

Alex Jones
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July 25th 2001 : Alex predicts that globalists are going to blow stuff up Reichstag style. Wants listeners to call the White House to let them know that THEY know what the Gubbamint is about to do. Predicts Gubbamint will try to blame Osama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudm ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHqSfDNjaI

Bill Cooper
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June 28th 2001 : Patriot/Militia/UFO purveyor of shit, Bill Cooper goes on air predicting there will be a major attack on the USA and Osama will be blamed.
September 9 2001 : Cooper almost served an arrest warrant
November 2001 : Police make attempt to raid Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

Why do all of the purveyors of rightwing extremism conveniently know shit gonna go boom soon? Yet nothing is done to stop it? Who has the Fedral Gubbmint all sinched up in the balls so nothing can be done to prevent the Terrah!?!

I have a few ideas...

April 23rd, 2001 - ABC News airs secret Skull and Bones ritual caught on tape
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGqAGuw23CM

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May 1st 2001 : Chandra Levy Dissapears
Summer 2001 - Dead Intern + Horny Congressman = Big News that drowns out any and everything else. Controversy surrounding her disappearance was a main topic of the American news media, ending only after the September 11, 2001, attacks. Gary Condit was a senior member on the House Intelligence Committee in the months and years prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.

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Oct 2001 - From At least October of 2001 "Jeff Gannon" is pimping his ass on a string of gay military themed web sites. See www.USMCPT.com:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0114406/catego ... 02/14.html
http://web.archive.org/web/*/USMCPT.com.
http://web.archive.org/web/200111031343 ... ndex2.html

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PERPS in high levels embedded in the hated Federal Government they seek to destroy and replace with something more Fascist.
PATSIES & PUPPETS to do the dirty work.
BLACKMAIL to keep the players in a mutual pact of silence.

This shit is getting good! Who are the puppets and who are the ones that designed the game? We're all dying to find out the exciting conclusion to this continuing drama!


AC/DC Who Made Who?

The video game say "Play me"
Face it on a level but it take you
every time on a one on one
Feeling running down your spine
Nothing gonna save your one last
dime cause it owns you
Through and through

The databank know my number
Says I gotta pay cause I made the grade last year
Feel it when I turn the screw
Kick you round the world, there ain't
a thing that it can't do
Do to you

Who made who, who made you?
Who made who, ain't nobody told you?
Who made who, who made you?
If you made them and they made you
Who Begot The Devil, and who made who?
Who made who, who turned the screw?
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWfwREo ... re=related

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:49 am

timetunneler said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWfwREo99o&feature=related


When I clicked the link, I got:

This video is not available in your country.


So, what's in the vid?
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Postby timetunneler » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:27 am

AlicetheKurious wrote:timetunneler said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWfwREo99o&feature=related


When I clicked the link, I got:

This video is not available in your country.


So, what's in the vid?


It's the AC/DC music video "Who Made Who". Edited the post above with some of the lyrics. As the fog starts to clear on 9/11 and the things that happened afterwards... at least as I see it from what i've put together... the players and their roles are becoming visible, especially when you start lining up the things they did in a timeline. Then you start to get a feel for who is being controlled and positioned... and who is the one doing the positioning. Patsies vs. Puppets.

Then you start to see it. So these days it's more a matter of watching it unfold and wondering who is going to wake up and turn the tables on the puppet master? Who's going to hold the upper hand at the end of the game? And who is going to keep their head shoved up their ass and take the fall. Bill Cooper got played. The Militia/Patriot groups are getting played. Iraq got played. The American economy just got played.

The guys in PNAC? Osama bin Laden? Dick Cheney? Rumsfeld? Roger Ailes? Wall Street? The high-level FBI "fuck-ups" who blocked orders to investigate the hijackers BEFORE 9/11? If you have noticed... these guys DIDN'T get played. They are free to do whatever the merry fuck they want to do. But now there is this new wild card in Washington D.C. that doesn't have all of the traditional dirty ties that keeps them mutually blackmailed with their spooked up ex-Safari Club, Iran-Contra, dirty agent/informant co-conspirators in the USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran Exile groups and Israel. Some of these new guys were no part of that.

So I'm very, very curious to see if Obama is going to get played by them. If he is going to play the role of "Bringer of the New World Order" that the Militia/Patriot puppets are pumping... and take the fall for the unseen high level worldwide criminal networks pushing this meme. Fuck, even the Chinese are playing along! My assumption is that they are "in" on the game for their own reasons. Is Obama going to get his ass handed to him? That remains to be seen. Afghanistan? Bad move Mr. Prez. So we'll watch and see what happens in the end.

But things are getting interesting again. Waiting to see the final verdicts on which set of perps & players gets their asses handed to them... and which ones get off scott-free.

"The video game say "Play me"
Face it on a level but it take you
every time on a one on one
Feeling running down your spine
Nothing gonna save your one last
dime cause it owns you
Through and through"

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:42 pm

timetunneler said:

So I'm very, very curious to see if Obama is going to get played by them. If he is going to play the role of "Bringer of the New World Order" that the Militia/Patriot puppets are pumping... and take the fall for the unseen high level worldwide criminal networks pushing this meme. Fuck, even the Chinese are playing along! My assumption is that they are "in" on the game for their own reasons. Is Obama going to get his ass handed to him? That remains to be seen.


Intriguingly, Alex Jones has a lot to say about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
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Postby nathan28 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:06 pm

Very well said, TT. Thanks for connecting the dots. I'd add "Stay Out Of Tall Buildings" to the Cooper-Jones Militia Foreknowledge axis.

On edit, William Pierce, author of the Turner Diaries and Serpent's Walk, was the one who issued the "Stay Out of Tall Buildings" warning in 1998:

William Pierce Ph. D., Late '90s Racist, wrote:New Yorkers who work in tall office buildings anything close to the size of the World Trade Center might consider wearing hard hats . . .


on further edit, see below, cross-posted vs. the Ted Gunderson stuff in the RA thread (which also, of course, ties into Danny Casolaro). Another "Hate radio" operator that seems to be implicated: Ted Dump
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Postby timetunneler » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:00 am

nathan28 wrote:Very well said, TT. Thanks for connecting the dots. I'd add "Stay Out Of Tall Buildings" to the Cooper-Jones Militia Foreknowledge axis.

On edit, William Pierce, author of the Turner Diaries and Serpent's Walk, was the one who issued the "Stay Out of Tall Buildings" warning in 1998:

William Pierce Ph. D., Late '90s Racist wrote:New Yorkers who work in tall office buildings anything close to the size of the World Trade Center might consider wearing hard hats . . .


There are a lot of dots to be connected. And the threads posted on RI have always been a good place to go do some dot connecting. Yes, RI and many on it seem to place Woo on the table and say "hey, have a look, but I'm not going to force you to be intelligent about it and tell you not to place a dog turd in your mouth and eat it." Fair enough. Others sites like AboveTopSecret and Rense, and Infowar seem more invested in getting you to eat steaming piles of bullshit whole without question. That difference interests me. I have some theories about that... and I will sum it up here real quick and then drop it out of respect for things i don't fully understand or labeling anyone as something they are not:

.........................A. This Gubbamint..................................
.......................................^...............................................
X. Gubbamint <--------------------> Y. Anti Gubbamint
.......................................V...............................................
...........................B. That Gubbamint................................

and one final correspodance with the above:

X. Bullshit...........<--------------------> Y. Militant Satanic

........................................................... Steaming Hot

........................................................... Grievous Bullshit

Hope that diagram came out. Will leave it right there.

But here is my favorite RI thread.
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... sc&start=0

An Epic thread pushing the meme that government agents and well hung Satanic E.T. are abducting people. In fact YOU may be one of them(of course they are abducting..renditioning people.. but it doesn't involve Satan or Aliens) If you've had any weird dreams or experiences lately... it was because the Gubbamint in league with Satanic Aliens without your knowledge abducted you, assraped you, and is programming you to be a monarch mind controlled slave who will do evil Gubbamint "Ops" against your own will. Don't think too deeply about it... if things are screwy for you.. just accept this as a possible explanation. Just don't stray too far off and go thinking about things like unofficial extreme right networks, or prostitution/blackmail/abduction networks with official connections WITHIN the GUBBAMINTS that might be doing these same things instead.. no blame the entire goddamn GUBBMINT ITSELF. See, the GUBBMINT is bad, needs to go because the Aliens and Socialists under Satan's command have taken it over and want to abduct and rape you.

That thread was like a spooked up Clash of the Titans. Alien Vs. Predator. WWF Cage Match. RI mysteries were explained, many Heroes, Villians, Satan Pimps and Those In Between got their masks ripped off and crashed in flames. The cheesy veneer on the "abduction" and "chemtrails" subjects got cracked open momentarily to reveal some of the JesusChristWhatTheFuckIsThat on the inside before being made pretty much incomprehensible again with another thick layer of bullshit from revolving gangs of "Sock Puppets". Some of the more Rigorous RigInters not opposed to occasionally placing a steaming pile on the table and watching to see who would eat it whole, butted heads with more militant RigInters absolutely determined to force feed unfiltered bullshit and make sure some choked on it. Socket puppets up the ass of sock puppets up the asses of more sockpuppets. Folks on all sides getting played like chumps and bitches. Other RigInters just sat back scratching their heads watching people standing in broad daylight with their junk hanging out for all to see. Go to the link above. Read their mighty and heroic exploits here on RI and elsewhere. Awesome thread. Good times.
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Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:33 am

That is a truly awesome thread, though I can usually only make it a few pages in before too many alarms go off and I have to just shut down operations. see my signature line.

It's like if you google "MK-Ultra": the top video hits are all MONARCH related. I smell a KWH, literally.

I mean, we already know that Big Gubmint has riddled the far Right with agents. 30% of the people at gun shows are informants; a bunch of the Elohim City crowd were informants and militant Christian racists, at least one of whom... went to the Phillipines to coordinate with militant brown-skinned Muslims? Why polish it up with Satanic Panic? (Not that it doesn't happen) Whoever is running the PR has an interesting sense of humor...
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:49 am

So because Jones called out the PTB before 9/11 happened and told his listeners to call the WH, that means he's somehow in on it?
:?

AJ has been blasting FOX and the neocons for over 8 years now, and calls them out regularly, but go ahead and lump them all together. Yes some of their issues overlap, but the causes, solutions, and objectives are completely different. What muddy thinking.
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Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:00 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:So because Jones called out the PTB before 9/11 happened and told his listeners to call the WH, that means he's somehow in on it?
:?

AJ has been blasting FOX and the neocons for over 8 years now, and calls them out regularly, but go ahead and lump them all together. Yes some of their issues overlap, but the causes, solutions, and objectives are completely different. What muddy thinking.



I for one am ambivalent about the populist libertarianism that rails against "collectivism." It sounds a little too much like the flip side of the Less Government More State Power More Business folks on Fox. I'm reminded of the comparison between vulgar and academic Marxism: they're still Marxists. Same for libertarians.

Jones is an interesting figure, media- and persona-wise, when you compare him against someone like Bill Cooper and the older CT crowd, or, for that matter, the older right-wing radio crowd. Then there's the Austin ("the freak capital of America") thing. So is he earnest, or is he The New Model? Or somewhere in between?

"I don't know, and neither do they"

and on edit, look into GCN's ownership.
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Postby psynapz » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:03 pm

nathan28 wrote:dnd on edit, look into GCN's ownership.

Queen wrote:Who said that my party was all over, huh, huh,
I'm in pretty good shape,
The best years of my life are like a super nova,
Huh, huh, perpetual craze, I said that
Everybody drank my wine -you get my drift,
And then we took a holiday on Khashoggi's ship - well,
We really had a good good time they was all so sexy
We was bad, we was blitzed,
All in all it was a pretty good trip,
This big bad sucker with a fist as big as your head,
Wanted to get me, I said go away
I said kiss my ass honey,
He pulled out a gun, wanted to arrest me,
I said uh, uh, babe,
Now listen no-one stops my party,
No-one stops my party,
No-one, no-one, no-one stops my party,
Just like I said,
We were phased, we was pissed,
Just having a total eclipse,
This one's on me so let us do it just right,
This here one party don't get started 'till midnight,
Party to the left -
Party to the right -
Left - right
No-one stops my .
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