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Postby JackRiddler » Thu May 14, 2009 4:20 pm

1. WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN: THE PICAYUNE-TRIBUNE
AS INTERNET PROVIDER

In the early 1990s established media companies (the newspapers, for instance) could have moved to take shares in Internet ISPs, and history might have worked out differently. Imagine your local newspaper had the foresight to convert itself into your local ISP. This was at a time when they would have had the high ground in promoting their own new ISP services. Rather than speculating breathlessly about what the new medium would bring, they could have merged with it and driven its growth.

If it worked, then as the Web grew the papers would have remained in control of distribution, not just of their own but everyone else's content (or editorial, as they called the stuff between the advertisements). They could have monetized their journalistic operations under the new media model, and perhaps there would not have been the same crisis of paid journalism we are now having. Of course, this would have depended also on what strategy the greedy corporate owners followed. (Many newspaper owners in the 1990s were out to strip and sell for immediate return, in the spirit of that decades' capitalism. Which of course has only grown worse in the present decade.)

Or imagine if the newspapers had got together to create a nationwide alliance of ISP services, based on the model by which 1500 papers own and maintain the AP wire service. Unfortunately, that thought occurred to no one - not even to any of the early electronic visionaries, let alone the print world's dinosaurs-in-the-making. (I only just thought of it myself the other day, when hearing more laments about how the newspaper as medium is near death and the last chance is to charge for content.) The traditional print media are reduced to helpless, reactionary moves, pretending they might charge subscription fees for viewing their page when, in fact, they no longer have control of the medium's distribution; whining like the RIAA or MPAA and dreaming Congress will impose a death penalty or at least the stockade for cut-and-paste offenses, as it might on songs and clips.

And so the telcoms and cable companies took over the vast majority of the ISP action, as the path of least resistance would have had us predict, and they have come to control distribution and the lion's share of Internet profits at an excellent operating margin, without needing to bother much with content themselves. On the current Internet model, all content and service providers combined, even the big corporate successes, in fact even the porn shops, make some tiny fraction of what the distributors (ISPs) pull in on a steady, predictable basis. (I refer here to provision of Internet content for immediate reading or consumption, rather than online retail operations like Amazon, which at best are merely replacing retail in meatspace.)

2. TAKEOVER PLANS THAT FAILED

In the mid to late 1990s Yahoo, AOL and others tried to eat the Internet by creating the illusion that you need a portal or a homepage as a front door to every Internet session. I sometimes think these companies would have never gotten anywhere if no one had thought of including the unnecessary "homepage" feature in browsers, and people had just learned from the start to input URLs or find sites by search engine and bookmark their favorites (which is of course what most people do in the meantime).

This myth that you need a portal still works with part of the less-skilled portion of the Internet user population, or else these "heuristic organizing" devices might have disappeared altogether. Anyway, their reach and earnings from the mere fact of being front pages have declined precipitously. If these companies still exist, it's because they're ISPs, or (like AOL), they wisely used their brief moment as apparent world conquerors to buy real companies (like TimeWarner).

In the late 1990s, Microsoft tried strategies to leverage its monopoly over PC operating systems in ways that would allow it to eat the Internet by pushing all users into MS-owned sites, and by establishing their encyclopedia as the authority on world knowledge. This revealed itself as an act of clueless hubris, like trying to move earth with a teaspoon they thought was a bulldozer. After a few billion dollars they figured out their folly, and so MSN is now a backwater known for chat engines and Encarta recently went belly-up. (In this at least Wikipedia is far superior: for all its drawbacks a user-annotated model is going to map knowledge better than some inoffensive "easy-reading" written by corporate nerds).

The telcoms and cable companies until now were happy to see content run riot, because it only meant more and more subscribers going online. By now the US ISP market is saturated and possibly even in decline, and with the infrastructure fully developed the services can be delivered more cheaply than ever, even with ever-higher volumes of data streaming. By capitalist tradition, this happy-sounding circumstance is of course the moment when profits will decline and crisis follows, if you actually allow competition to take its course.


3. WHERE WE ARE NOW - SOME THOUGHTS

It's very important for the ISPs to hide the fact that running an established infrastructure is actually cheaper than building it in the first place. So they've taken to whining about their supposedly staggering higher expenses due to increased bandwidth use. Their new hope for growth is to leverage their effective cartel position in service distribution to add parasitic revenue streams (i.e., without necessarily needing to invest anything more) by way of bandwidth charges. Thus their discovery in recent years that Internet neutrality is a sin against private enterprise and free market religion.

I'd love to see free universal public wireless access put an end to that particular potential nightmare. (Isn't that what they're doing in San Francisco?)

Otherwise, the king for now of the Internet is obviously Google. Everyone finally figured out that a good search engine provides the best map of the real-existing Internet, or at least the most effective one, for free. Rather than trying to force existing content into its own architecture (like the portals) or trying to leverage some position in the communication chain (like MS and the ISPs) into dominance over content, Google has found a position where it can let Internet growth drive its own.

This doesn't mean they aren't thinking up ways to leverage their present position into greater dominance or monopolies.

One thing that is happening is that machine-generated content is gradually coming to overwhelm anything humans write, at least in volume, though presumably not in readership! This replication of the same bullshit in 50 or 5000 different dummy sites threatens to take over all possible search queries.

The biggest factor I've left out of this random summary is the Government: the irony of Internet history as a government project; the rock-bottom reality that everything goes through a few trunks that the Commerce Dept. and a few counterparts abroad control, and that there is only one root server at Spook Central (Herndon, Virginia); Internet surveillance and use of Internet FOR surveillance (that would be RI among other places, right?), control and sting functions; potentials for prohibitions and use of Internet "crime" to feed the prisons; NSA, "GOVNET" and other nightmare scenarios. Much to talk about there, but I won't start or I'll have to add another 10 paragraphs.

Or perhaps the biggest factor I've left out is the users, and how they've shaped the Web for better or worse independently of what the big corporations try or like.

Anyone care to correct, object to or add anything to this pocket history? Where do you see it heading?
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Postby beeline » Thu May 14, 2009 4:34 pm

I don't understand why newspapers don't charge more often for online content. I would gladly pay for an online subscription for my paper. Like most papers, the are hemmorhaging money.
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu May 14, 2009 5:22 pm

beeline wrote:I don't understand why newspapers don't charge more often for online content. I would gladly pay for an online subscription for my paper. Like most papers, the are hemmorhaging money.


It's hopeless. Even the NY Times had to surrender their "Select" section. What's the Cleveland Plain-Dealer to do? (Does that one exist anymore?) They didn't want to provide their content on the Web for free, they were forced to by the overall trend. There's simply too much content out there for free. And it's all the same - everyone's international coverage for decades has been re-writes from the same small number of big papers or wire services.

Anyway, it really is hopeless: they don't control distribution any more, like they did long as it was about printing presses, trucks and newsstands, and delivery routes. And they no longer have monopoly position in their own cities. Right now I can read every newspaper on earth, insofar as it's in English, German or Greek. What advantage does the local paper have over that, except in local news?

And then there is this: they carried the official line on so many key stories, for decades the mockingbird media supported imperialism, war, covert actions, neoliberalism and Reagan and the Cold War and all the rest, culminating with this decade's WMD fiasco and then the complete cheerleading of the housing bubble all the way over the cliff. Why should I support them?

I don't dispute the importance, indeed perhaps the primacy of local news: courts, local council and committee and board meetings, development planning, police and crime stories, etc. There's little chance for democracy if these beats don't get covered regularly as beats by paid professionals who develop sources and maintain some kind of memory from last year. It's very hard to see what model for monetizing this activity and turning it into a living can possibly replace the newspaper (in a non-socialist system, anyway). So possibly you're going to have itinerant bloggers and no coverage otherwise. I don't deny the disaster, here.

But the idea that Internet subscriptions are going to save the newsrooms is a total pipedream. It's reactionary in the literal sense of that word. Even pre-Internet, almost no publication ran mainly on subscriptions. Advertising was the biggest factor, and that hasn't just migrated to the Internet - it's been wiped out altogether.

Craig's List, for example, doesn't simply take business away. It offers classified ads mostly for free, which they can do thanks to their own absolutely minimal costs. So Craig's List makes like $80 million a year while wiping out the prior equivalent of billions that people would have spent on classified ads in their papers (which was half the ad revenue). In case you're wondering why the media are so full of rancid bullshit stories about "Craig's List Killers." (If you use the phone or a car to kill someone, they won't call you the AT&T Killer or the Chrysler Killer.)

The papers missed the boat when they didn't invest directly in the Internet infrastructure, like they did in the past in printing presses and trucks. But who had the vision to even think of that 15 years ago?
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Postby StarmanSkye » Thu May 14, 2009 5:38 pm

This is good; Thanks for the bump, I missed it in its first presentation. I'll have to dwell on it before I might think of something to add (or correct). This is no-doubt a big topic with a lot of angles, still developing. Jack seems to have identified and condensed some of the primary features.

Been wondrin' about and hoping Jack's well. His absence is noticed.
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Postby JackRiddler » Fri May 15, 2009 12:32 am

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Thank you Starman, that's very kind of you to mention.

I'm fine, no big probs, just been busy in real life. Drives me crazy cos I have like 30 articles accumulated for the Wall Street thread that I want to add. Soon, I hope.

Given the local tendencies to make rumors, I suppose I should mention that my relative absence is unrelated to either of the following:

a) to all the weak bullshit about RI's imminent demise cos it ain't as rad as it was, blah blah. (I loved c2w's recent post on this topic!)

b) to anything sinister.

I shall return, & c.
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Postby beeline » Fri May 15, 2009 3:31 pm

I suppose what I like least about the demise of newspapers is the fact that they will no longer be able to fund deep investigative stories. So pieces like I posted in the Police Abuse thread will become less common.

But I guess it's like anything else. Like, when Napster hit the scene, I got into an argument with a guy that made his living making music. Pretty obscure artist, bluegrass artist. He was ticked at me because I was 'of the generation that had no respect for intellectual property.' I tried to tell him, look, cat's out of the bag, figure out a different way of making money, 'cause that one isn't coming back.

Anyway, I see investigative reporting as the sort of the same thing. if that's the type of mind you have, you are going to be driven to do it. You'll work a different job 40 hours a week and spend another 40 hours doing your research. It's like any other art--you can't help yourself, you just create.
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Postby Canadian_watcher » Sun May 17, 2009 12:25 pm

Fantastic thread, short as it currently is. I've been ruminating on this topic, too, since a few days ago a friend who makes his living as a Social Marketer - completely dependent on the 'net - got bent out of shape when I commented that Internet 2 might suffocate his grand plans.

Jack, do you write for profit? You have a knack.

FWIW, I dont' se much investigative reporting of any substance any more. I remember when 48 hours, Dateline and Primtime used to be about all kinds of things.. now all are reduced to pathetic rehashings of domestic violence, random homicide and child abduction cases. Not that these don't often bear scrutiny, but .. well you all know what I mean.
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Postby Sweejak » Sun May 17, 2009 1:22 pm

I gave up on TV, the local newspaper and most newsy magazines and radio because they pissed me off with their lies, shallowness, 80% commercials (seem like it) and uncritical support for just about everything I'm against.

I'm told that a lot has changed and things are getting better, but how would I know.

Until a new model comes along that will pay for investigative journalism I'd hope everyone contributes to their favorite online sources. For me it's Anti-war.com as a regular and a few others, and then there was Dahr Jamail's reader financed trip to Iraq. That was cool, but I wonder if that could be a workable model.

Anyway, in the end I probably spend MORE than what I used to spend on MSM media.
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Postby Hilda Martinez » Tue May 19, 2009 12:22 am

I have always wondered why the Post Office didn't get its hands in the Internet a long time ago. They could have been operating at a profit for years by now.
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Re: Take Over the Internet and RULE THE WORLD!!!

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:50 pm

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Helping someone prepare a class, I collected a selection of graphic depictions of the Internet (some of which I've seen here before or posted myself), and I just thought, why not share it here?

A. EARLY PLANS FOR DECENTRALIZED GENERAL NETWORKS

1) Larry Roberts' sketch of a proposal for an ARPANET, late 1960s.
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This Internet pioneer is interviewed in the German documentary about the Unabomber and the transhumanists, Das Netz. (There's a post about that here somewhere.)

Picked it up here, where there are a series of early Internet topologies through 1991:
http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... rical.html

2) On that page you will also see one of the first RAND proposals from the 1960s, for a communications network that would survive a nuclear attack (the original idea behind ARPANET and the Internet).
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3) Page also includes the plan of ARPANET/MILNET/INTERNET from 1987 in which it looks like a circuit board and is still very easy to depict:
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It should be noted networks accessible by modem to users around the world in 1987 were already much bigger than that. I believe USENET already existed. There were post-office networks in widespread use in France and Germany offering many services that would be familiar to us today, including message boards, places to download software and trade stuff, etc.

4) Tim Berners-Lee with a 1989 sketch of his idea for a World Wide Web based on the HyperText Markup Language:
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I do not purport to understand what the hell that's supposed to mean, but obviously it was of great consequence.

Also picked up from the Manchester collection, here:
http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... ptual.html

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B. CABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, GEOGRAPHIC

5) "The Internet in 1901"
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From http://www.edge.org/documents/Edge-Serp ... ge-57.html

6) "The Internet's Undersea World" - Global ocean floor cable network, today.
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From The Guardian in 2008. Note that it refers to the accidental* cutting of a cable in the Mediterranean the week before this graphic was published. (NOTE: Allegedly, if you're on RI!)

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C. TRAFFIC ROUTES & DENSITIES, GEOGRAPHIC

7) Depiction of traffic between major world cities, based on data from 2007, by Chris Harrison.
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Picked up with explanations here:
http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/I ... index.html

8) BEST: 2009 Global Internet Map by CISCO and TeleGeography.
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Shows traffic between world regions via major routes, broken up so as to depict proportions passing from region to region. For example, you can see how 24% of traffic out of and into the US & Canada region goes to the Asia-Pacific region, where it represents 54% of their total interregional traffic.

Picked up here, among other places:
http://alhaqqagency.wordpress.com/2010/ ... -map-2009/

A comparison of Nos. 7 and 8 shows the relative advantages and disadvantages of an unedited view (in No. 7) that is illuminating but much more difficult to quantify in a salient manner. About all you can say is that there is a lot of Internet action in the US and Europe. By contrast, the amount of information in No. 8 is radically edited to allow simple statements.

9) World map of friend connections on Facebook, December 2010.
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Picked up here:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ ... world-map/
"With only 10 million of the 500 million connections, we are able to build a map of the world solely from our own personal connections. Very cool."

Note relative "darkness" of China, due to blocks on Facebook, and former Soviet Union countries, where other social networking sites predominate.

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D. TRAFFIC BY SERVER AND ROUTE

10) BEST OF ALL: Map of Internet Servers, April 2005, by Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis (CAIDA).
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Very brilliantly combines geography with a usage-density map of routers and servers. Picked up here:
http://discovermagazine.com/2006/oct/ma ... et-servers

See there for an explanation of the labels.

Cities around the earth's surface are placed along the rim east to west, so that you have groupings by continent (and gaps where the oceans are). Squares represent ISPs, the closest ones to the rim being direct providers to users residing in a given city, from which traffic goes upstream. The more traffic handled by a node, the closer to the center the node is placed in the graphic. Much traffic within each region runs near the rim, but most traffic goes through the center, where we have the major upstream servers (labeled).

Similar ideas, but not as sleekly rendered, and lacking the geographic component:

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E. GIMMICK / CONTENT-CONCEPTUAL / PERSONAL / BULLSHIT

16) http://uvageek.net/wp-content/uploads/2 ... 54562a.jpg

17) http://listicles.thelmagazine.com/wp-co ... moment.jpg

18) http://newmedialiteracies.org/online_communities.png

19) http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4773 ... qdnsh3.jpg
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Re: Take Over the Internet and RULE THE WORLD!!!

Postby tazmic » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:36 pm

JackRiddler wrote:This Internet pioneer is interviewed in the German documentary about the Unabomber and the transhumanists, Das Netz. (There's a post about that here somewhere.)
[...]
On that page you will also see one of the first RAND proposals from the 1960s, for a communications network that would survive a nuclear attack (the original idea behind ARPANET and the Internet).

Didn't Das Netz point out that the original idea behind ARPANET was to allow agents to communicate regardless of location, and not nuclear proofing?

I don't have time to watch it again, but wiki appears to have caught the tune:

Misconceptions of design goals
Common ARPANET lore posits that the computer network was designed to survive a nuclear attack. In A Brief History of the Internet, the Internet Society describes the coalescing of the technical ideas that produced the ARPANET:
It was from the RAND study that the false rumor started, claiming that the ARPANET was somehow related to building a network resistant to nuclear war. This was never true of the ARPANET, only the unrelated RAND study on secure voice considered nuclear war. However, the later work on Internetting did emphasize robustness and survivability, including the capability to withstand losses of large portions of the underlying networks.[5]
Although the ARPANET was designed to survive subordinate-network losses, the principal reason was that the switching nodes and network links were unreliable, even without any nuclear attacks. About the resource scarcity that spurred the creation of the ARPANET, Charles Herzfeld, ARPA Director (1965–1967), said:
The ARPANET was not started to create a Command and Control System that would survive a nuclear attack, as many now claim. To build such a system was, clearly, a major military need, but it was not ARPA’s mission to do this; in fact, we would have been severely criticized had we tried. Rather, the ARPANET came out of our frustration that there were only a limited number of large, powerful research computers in the country, and that many research investigators, who should have access to them, were geographically separated from them.[6]
Packet switching pioneer Paul Baran affirms this, explaining: "Bob Taylor had a couple of computer terminals speaking to different machines, and his idea was to have some way of having a terminal speak to any of them and have a network. That's really the origin of the ARPANET. The method used to connect things together was an open issue for a time."
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:30 pm

tazmic wrote:
Misconceptions of design goals
Common ARPANET lore posits that the computer network was designed to survive a nuclear attack. In A Brief History of the Internet, the Internet Society describes the coalescing of the technical ideas that produced the ARPANET:
It was from the RAND study that the false rumor started, claiming that the ARPANET was somehow related to building a network resistant to nuclear war. This was never true of the ARPANET, only the unrelated RAND study on secure voice considered nuclear war. However, the later work on Internetting did emphasize robustness and survivability, including the capability to withstand losses of large portions of the underlying networks.[5]
Although the ARPANET was designed to survive subordinate-network losses, the principal reason was that the switching nodes and network links were unreliable, even without any nuclear attacks. About the resource scarcity that spurred the creation of the ARPANET, Charles Herzfeld, ARPA Director (1965–1967), said:
The ARPANET was not started to create a Command and Control System that would survive a nuclear attack, as many now claim. To build such a system was, clearly, a major military need, but it was not ARPA’s mission to do this; in fact, we would have been severely criticized had we tried. Rather, the ARPANET came out of our frustration that there were only a limited number of large, powerful research computers in the country, and that many research investigators, who should have access to them, were geographically separated from them.[6]
Packet switching pioneer Paul Baran affirms this, explaining: "Bob Taylor had a couple of computer terminals speaking to different machines, and his idea was to have some way of having a terminal speak to any of them and have a network. That's really the origin of the ARPANET. The method used to connect things together was an open issue for a time."


Fine by me. Sounds a bit hair-splitty, since of course the plans had many origins in many centers, including the ideas in the RAND study (graphic from it shown above). A general network was always going to acquire a multitude of functions, both conceived in advance and discovered as it developed. I suspect ham radio beats the modern Internet for survivability in a nuclear war.
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Re: Take Over the Internet and RULE THE WORLD!!!

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:03 pm

The Vedic Illuminati must get so heated when they hear us crackers talking about "The History of Computers." There's biting your tongue, and then there's...whatever kind of life path yoga they're on. Can't even imagine.

Via Timothy Shorrock's 10/10 non-fiction book "Spies for Hire," pg. 87-88

Two weeks after the 1994 election, Vice President Al Gore sent a memo to all government department ordering them to justify every program under the jurisdiction or risk either termination or privatization of those services. Within a month, he had negotiated deep cuts, totaling nearly $20 billion, in the Departments of Energy, Transportation, and Housing. When Gingrich introduced a bill making privatization mandatory in most agencies, Clinton and Gore denounced it as a rigid piece of legislation that would limt competition and government flexibility.

After two years of negotiations, the administration and the Republican congressional leadership agreed on a bill that required agencies to annually publish a list of jobs that are not "inherently governmental" and put them up for bid. The compromise elated conservatives, who had been waiting for such legislation for decades. When Clinton spelled out details in his 1996 budget, the Heritage Foundation hailed it as "the boldest privatization agenda put forth by any American president to date," and the Reason Foundation called it "the highlight of the year for privatization."

It was an amazing feat: even as Gingrich and his Republican colleagues were hammering Clinton on having an affair with a White House intern and over his foreign policy in Haiti and North Korea, they were working closely with him on privatization...

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Overall, the number of government agencies that were privatized during the Clinton administration is astounding. [b]One of the first government services to be sold to private interests was the vast computer network known as the Internet, which had started initially as a defense project linking government research institutes in different states. In 1993, the Clinton admin turned over the registration of domain names to a private company called Network Solutions (perhaps this was what Gore meant in 200 when claimed to be the "inventor" of the Internet.) A few years later, when the company's government sanctioned monopoly became controversial, management of the Web was handed over to an international consortium called the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names, or ICANN.


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Re: Take Over the Internet and RULE THE WORLD!!!

Postby justdrew » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:50 pm

LAWNMOWER MAN 2: JOBE'S WAR 1996 (93 MINS)

Jobe, the computer-enhanced genius of Lawnmower Man, is resuscitated by Jonathan Walker (Patrick Bergin), a conniving businessman. Walker wants Jobe to create a special computer chip that would connect all the computers in the world into one network, which Walker would control and use for evil purposes. But Walker doesn't realize a group of plucky teenage hackers are on to him and out to stop his plan!


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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:18 pm

beeline wrote:I suppose what I like least about the demise of newspapers is the fact that they will no longer be able to fund deep investigative stories. So pieces like I posted in the Police Abuse thread will become less common.

But I guess it's like anything else. Like, when Napster hit the scene, I got into an argument with a guy that made his living making music. Pretty obscure artist, bluegrass artist. He was ticked at me because I was 'of the generation that had no respect for intellectual property.' I tried to tell him, look, cat's out of the bag, figure out a different way of making money, 'cause that one isn't coming back.

Anyway, I see investigative reporting as the sort of the same thing. if that's the type of mind you have, you are going to be driven to do it. You'll work a different job 40 hours a week and spend another 40 hours doing your research. It's like any other art--you can't help yourself, you just create.



Now it's like the majority of bands and solo artists Im absolutely enthralled with got well known just by putting their songs on soundcloud, bandcamp, tumblr, youtube, vimeo, etc and got blogged about. Maybe they made a few weird art videos. No better time than now to put up bedroom recorded sound collages of oddball sounds or what have you. While it's a very young demographic making said music and consuming it, the whole need for a major label or even any label is passe'. Heck I'll wake up, create/sing/etc a song, post it on soundcloud and reblog it and by the time I go to bed maybe 30 people will have checked it out and a few commenting on it. Most the shows of bands I like, even the rather osbcure ones, sell out...despite very few people actually having "bought" their music to begin with.

Times greatly changed, and the record labels and execs were too far behind to "get it". That model is dead.
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