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Air France jet w/ 228 people missing over Atlantic

Associated Press Writer= SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) An Air France official says the airline has lost contact with a plane carrying 228 people from Brazil to Paris.

Air France spokeswoman Brigitte Barrand says, "Air France regrets to announce that it is without news from Air France flight 447 flying from Rio to Paris."

She said Monday the flight was carrying 216 passengers and 12 crew members.

Brazil's air force said a search began Monday morning near the Brazilian archipelago of Fernando de Noronha.

The plane disappeared about 186 miles (300 kilometers) northeast of the coastal Brazilian city of Natal and near Fernando de Noronha, the spokesman said.

He spoke on condition of anonymity, in keeping with Air Force policy.

Barrand says "Air France shares the emotion and worry of the families concerned."

She says the airline has installed an information center at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport for the families of those aboard.

The flight was scheduled to arrive in Paris at 0915 GMT (5:15 a.m. EDT), according to the airport.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8535072

Penguin wrote:LOST

At a press conference on Monday morning officials said the last contact from the plane had indicated an electronic short circuit after turbulence

http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/interna ... 300122.htm

The Rapture. Or at least the French one?

This is such an awful story.

I always wonder, if say the Muslim Brotherhood came forward to take responsibility for this and did so by contacting a media outlet - would that media outlet defer to the NSA / DOD? Such that we would never even hear about it?

FWIW, a secondhand report of a Dutch story:

Hunch prompted Dutch man to cancel flight on Air France 447

A Dutch man has told a news outlet in the Netherlands that he canceled a trip to Brazil after a friend warned him of danger.

Stefan van Oss, who comes from the small town of Oss, which is 64 miles from Amsterdam, said he'd booked a vacation to Brazil three weeks ago. He was scheduled to return home via Paris on the flight that had gone down, he said.

At the last minute, he canceled his journey.

The man tells his tale, in Dutch, on Dutch television show "Hart van Nederland." (Link)

Though it is almost midnight in Amsterdam, Evalinde Eelens, a good friend of mine who lives there, offers this translation for English-speaking readers just before heading to bed:

"It's about a guy who should've been on the plane. He decided not to go on it. He canceled his trip last minute," she said. "The reason he wasn't on the plane is because a good friend of his told him not to go on the plane."

Oss' friend told him that "something bad would happen and he would not return if he got on the plane. So he reconsidered his trip and decided not to go," Eelens said.

"Hart van Nederland" is a program on the SBS 6 channel.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/arc ... blog_last3

I seem to remember reading somewhere (here?) that crashed flights show a statistically significant higher number of last-minute cancellations than non-crashing flights.

What's the problem? Air France AKA "Air Chance"--the pilot just passed out on the radio transmitter, he'll come to in a couple hours.

I seem to remember reading somewhere (here?) that crashed flights show a statistically significant higher number of last-minute cancellations than non-crashing flights.

i think that's Michael Crichton. X(

IanEye wrote:

Penguin wrote:LOST

that is the most amazing paranoid KWH post of all time. I just can't remember whether that's a good (live '87?) or terrible TSOL album.

justdrew wrote:I seem to remember reading somewhere (here?) that crashed flights show a statistically significant higher number of last-minute cancellations than non-crashing flights.

Pinchbeck says so in 2012 but I don't think that's the original source.

What Nathan said about Ianeye's TSOL detournment though I'm pretty sure that is one of the unspeakably bad ones on Enigma.

lightningBugout wrote:

justdrew wrote:I seem to remember reading somewhere (here?) that crashed flights show a statistically significant higher number of last-minute cancellations than non-crashing flights.

Pinchbeck says so in 2012 but I don't think that's the original source.

What Nathan said about Ianeye's TSOL detournment though I'm pretty sure that is one of the unspeakably bad ones on Enigma.

it would have to be an industry or government study, where else would anyone get that kind of detailed cancellation data? I don't know the Crichton connection. Will google at some point...

ya know, I never considered TSOL backwards before. always distracted by the question of that the letters meant. good catch

"It's about a guy who should've been on the plane. He decided not to go on it. He canceled his trip last minute," she said. "The reason he wasn't on the plane is because a good friend of his told him not to go on the plane."

Oss' friend told him that "something bad would happen and he would not return if he got on the plane. So he reconsidered his trip and decided not to go," Eelens said.

Seriously, if that ever happens to you, do pay attention.
Ive had one instance of this, when I did not heed the warning, explicit as it was..
....
One relative told that when her spouse died, she knew beforehand something bad would happen that day, begging for them to go home instead of to the town - she said that even the blue sky looked black - but he insisted, and was hit by a car and killed in town. She had always prayed to be present when he dies. Did happen that way, then.

Cui bono: when i hear Airbus, i think Boeing, the two have been slugging it out across the globe for years. An Airbus falling out of the sky could have ramifications for many billions of dollars worth of deals.

http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/ ... %252C.html
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/01/airbus ... a400m.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNew ... JG20090531

This is 'good' news for US manufacturing, in a week otherwise full of GM pain.

I reckon we need to keep alert with this story... My hunch is that this will turn out to be not so cut and dried as it first seemed. French newspapers have already started speculating about terrorism.

RocketMan wrote:I reckon we need to keep alert with this story... My hunch is that this will turn out to be not so cut and dried as it first seemed. French newspapers have already started speculating about terrorism.

I found it very odd too, RocketMan
Sarkozy seemed *very* quick to say there was little likelihood of any survivors.

The plane vanished only a few hundred miles from Fernando Noronha which is a very popular holiday island of the coast of Brazil, not out in the middle of the Atlantic.