72-year-old Great-Grandma Tasered

[Naked Wizard]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/052909_Grandmother_Tasered_at_Traffic_Stop

video at link

A 72-year-old woman is pulled over for speeding, then tasered and sent to jail. Kathryn Winkfein says she drives to Austin about twice a month to do her shopping. But on a Monday afternoon, a Travis County Constable deputy pulled her over, on her way back to Granite Schoals.

"Due to being a construction zone, and workers being present," Pct. 3 Constable Richard McCain said, "it was 45, she was doing 60."

Winkfein admits she was speeding in the dangerous strip of Highway 71 and Bee Creek.

"He explained to her," Constable McCain said, "sign the ticket stub, it's not an admission of guilt. It's a promise to appear in court. She didn't want to. She said take me to jail."

That's when the officer says Winkfein exited her vehicle and didn't cooperate.

"She refused to get off the side of the road, he said to her, Ma'am, you're under arrest. She used profanity," the Constable said. He adds she got violent, and the officer used a taser on her.

Winkfein showed FOX 7 her taser scars.

"Here and here. Two places, side by side. It's unreal. It's like an electric shock," she said.

A shock Winkfein believes she didn't deserve.

"I wasn't argumentative, I was not combative. This is a lie. All of this is a lie, pulled away from him I did not," she said, reading the arrest affidavit.

The great-grandmother was taken to the Travis County Jail, where she was booked for resisting arrest and detention. She was released shortly after. Now, Winkfein has hired attorneys to protect her rights.

When asked if it was appropriate for the arresting officer to have used a taser, Constable McCain answered yes.

[OP ED]

slippery slope. said, didn't i?

[marmot]

See, the thing that gets me with this is that the constable was - I'm assuming - a healthy and capable man. Are we to believe that he couldn't have handled this old woman without resorting to torturing her with electricity?

Real Men Don't Taser 72 year old Grandmothers!

[chiggerbit]

Foo, if that's a REAL woman, she should be a great-grandma by now.

[barracuda]

C'mon, chig, didn't you read the article? "The great-grandmother was taken to the Travis County Jail, where she was booked for resisting arrest and detention."

Next taser goal for manly law enforcement: great-great grandmothers. Crippled ones with altheimers. Go USA!

[chiggerbit]

Oh, shoot, I skipped right over the GREAT-grandmother bit. She's a real woman.

[elfismiles]

"pulled away from him I did not"

[elfismiles]

From a close local friend...

... cousin of mine died because he was drunk and floundering in the river, and when he "didn't respond" quickly enough to police orders to exit the water (they said they were afraid he was going to try and swim the river from the Ohio side to Kentucky) they tasered him, then left him face down in the river until he drowned. He was only 24 years old.

When his twin brother tried to go into the river to drag him out, they put him in handcuffs and argued with him that he needed to calm done while he was screaming at them to get his brother out of the river before he drowned. So basically they held him there and made him watch his brother die. There defense, of course, was that he was drunk and drowned because of that, and that itw as his brothers fault for keeping them from getting him out, and they got off. It still kills me to think about it. I can't even imagine the rage that he must have felt, and must still feel, at being held down and forced to lie there and watch while his brother was face down in the water just feet away. Even if they wanted to arrest them both, they should have gotten his brother out of the water first.

[vigilant]

A young boy sits in the road beside his destroyed vehicle. He is bloody, beat up from the wreck, and his body is going into shock. Police officers scream at him and tell him he is in the road and must move. He does not respond because he is dazed and confused.

These police officers, two of them, being the pathetic assholes that most of them are rapidly being hired these days, use their superior powers of observation and training to determine that he is simply refusing and probably dangerous.

Instead of physically helping him to the shoulder of the road, they taser him mercilessly and repeatedly. The dazed boy responds to the electricity by getting up, he doesn't understand what is happening, but he tries to move away, walk, run, stagger, whatever he can do to make it stop.

He is then obviously a very dangerous man so these punks shoot the boy. The boy is dead.

This sort of thing is happening everyday in this country and has become routine. I'm beginning to wonder if the stories about the Halliburton detention camps may have some merit. At least they could do it to dozens of people at a time in a camp and make it more effecient.

The guy that tasered the 72 year old lady should be fired, and serve jail time for assault, and his boss should be fired. It is not illegal to refuse to sign a traffic ticket, and any punk officer that cannot take a cussin from a mad 72 year old lady without resorting to a taser is a loser and has no redeeming value to police work.

If someone tasered his grandmother, he would probably sit down the road from their house and ticket them, and harass them every time they left home.


Right this moment on the news there is a story about a thing called Med Camps, and battle of the badges. A public event where they teach children to shoot taser guns at targets....

[OP ED]

If someone tasered his grandmother, he would probably sit down the road from their house and ticket them, and harass them every time they left home.

if someone tasered my grandmother i'd put them in a fucking coma.

[elfismiles]

Right this moment on the news there is a story about a thing called Med Camps, and battle of the badges. A public event where they teach children to shoot taser guns at targets....

Taking one for the Team: Med-Camps 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcxP-cdgyfo

Spark's Nissan Kia / Public Safety Appreciation

Title: Spark's Nissan Kia / Public Safety Appreciation
Description: On this day Battle of the Badges along with Spark's will be hosting a Public Safety Appreciation Day, All EMS, Fire, and Law Enforcement(on duty or off duty) are invited to attend. Sparks will be cooking for us.There will be demo's and displays, K-9 , SWAT, TASER, FINGER PRINTING, CHILD SAFETY SEAT INSPECTIONS ETC.

www.battleofthebadgesmonroe.com

[vigilant]

A young boy sits in the road beside his destroyed vehicle. He is bloody, beat up from the wreck, and his body is going into shock. Police officers scream at him and tell him he is in the road and must move. He does not respond because he is dazed and confused.

These police officers, two of them, being the pathetic assholes that most of them are rapidly being hired these days, use their superior powers of observation and training to determine that he is simply refusing and probably dangerous.

Instead of physically helping him to the shoulder of the road, they taser him mercilessly and repeatedly. The dazed boy responds to the electricity by getting up, he doesn't understand what is happening, but he tries to move away, walk, run, stagger, whatever he can do to make it stop.

He is then obviously a very dangerous man so these punks shoot the boy. The boy is dead.

This sort of thing is happening everyday in this country and has become routine. I'm beginning to wonder if the stories about the Halliburton detention camps may have some merit. At least they could do it to dozens of people at a time in a camp and make it more effecient.

The guy that tasered the 72 year old lady should be fired, and serve jail time for assault, and his boss should be fired. It is not illegal to refuse to sign a traffic ticket, and any punk officer that cannot take a cussin from a mad 72 year old lady without resorting to a taser is a loser and has no redeeming value to police work.

If someone tasered his grandmother, he would probably sit down the road from their house and ticket them, and harass them every time they left home.


Right this moment on the news there is a story about a thing called Med Camps, and battle of the badges. A public event where they teach children to shoot taser guns at targets....

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Multiple 911 calls to report a horrible accident, so they go kill the victim
audio recordings of the calls here at the link below. Obviously...just obviously...his nakedness made him lethal...perhaps he was naked because he ripped off his burning clothes....maybe he was naked when he crashed because he was on drugs....obviously he wasn't wearing a pistol holster....because he was uhhh....naked....when the taser didnt kill him...the guns did....as you will hear the officers themselves report the victim as covered in blood and sitting in an unthreatening posture....the police were so terrified of this naked burned bloody man sitting in the road that he had to be killed...reporters complicit in "trying to keep public off cops back".....etc...there are other sites on the internet with information. This is so blatant...

28 seconds : The Killing of Fouad Kaady
In the early afternoon of September 8, 2005, police encountered Fouad Kaady shortly after he was in an accident that left him in shock and bleeding, burned over much of his body. Rather than calling for medical help, the police commanded him to lie on the pavement, even though they could see the burned flesh hanging from his body, and even though they said he appeared to be "in a catatonic state." When he did not comply with their orders, but instead continued to sit on the ground in a daze, they tasered him repeatedly. And then, they shot him to death.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Cops-sho ... ning-wreck
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[elfismiles]

It seems apparent to me that she was clearly the one causing the problems - HOWEVER, there still appears to be NO JUSTIFICATION for the deployment of a taser. If this cop can't handle a 72 year old physically then he has no business being on the force out on the road - he should just be consigned to a desk job and be grateful.

After all, he could easily have gotten her away from the road (the real hazard outside his taser-mentality) or even just let her go as he had her drivers license info, vehicle license plate info and the dashcam footage that could have been used against her in a court of law.

Video Released of Grandma Being Tased
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/loc ... eing_Tased

[elfismiles]

Roadside Torture: Official Policy of Travis Co. Sheriff’s Dept.
by Mack White
http://www.anomalymagazine.com/2009/06/ ... iffs-dept/

[vigilant]

Just now saw the video. My previous comments were much too kind. This officer should be given the maximum penalty allowed by law, and some of those "bogus" charges officers always add to poor people they taze for no reason in order to justify their actions.

FOX 7 also requested an interview from Winkfein's attorney. He declined Monday.

[color=blue]"There may be many viewers upset we deployed a taser," Sgt. Maj. Griffin said, "But she made a very simple interaction with police, a very difficult task."

What in the hell did he just say anyway? She made a simple interaction, and those are obviously difficult. What sort of gamey reverse nonsense is that anyway?


Yes Sgt. Maj. Griffin, I agree with you wholeheartedly. The simple legal act of declining to sign a ticket truly is simple, or should be for both people involved. In this instance, it became extremely difficult didn't it?

in times past, this happened, but no more...

"So Mrs. Brown, you are refusing to sign the ticket?"
"Yes I am officer"
"Ok Mrs. Brown, it isn't an admission of your guilt anyway, but your refusal to sign it does not mean that you are free to ignore the court date on the ticket, you still have to appear in court if you don't pay the ticket"
"Have a good day Mrs. Brown"....




This new and abusive pattern holds up in court over and over since tazers were purchased. The above scenario in bold is THE LAW, THE REAL LAW. A tazer denies any right of a citizen to speak with and question an officer about the nature of the discussion at hand.....PERIOD

Speaking is "hampering the investigation of an officer"

Not agreeing with an officer speaking is "resisting arrest"

Not being in total compliance with demands within three seconds is "attempted assault on an officer"

Being tazed by an officer is, "assaulting an officer"

Does that seem backwards to anyone else?


I feel sorry for the nice police officers, that respect the people they deal with, and make no mistake, there are some of those officers in the streets. I'm sure they cringe when they have to suffer the hostility of citizens that view them as the same scurge of officers that behave this way, which has become the rule instead of the exception.