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Re: Jesse Ventura's new conspiracy show

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:27 am
by Zap
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:I'm burned out on this board.

Good for you - take a needed break man, and maybe get a toehold on the slippery slope where your mind dwells. Get some sunshine on your skin. Spend some non-directed time near a river, lake, or ocean, wiith your attention far from any potential CIA media. Breathe. Seriously!

Yes, the universe is just a hologram and it's winking at you!
Let Zap show you his synchronicity blog.

Teapots happen, Hugh!


Ventura's image history, politics>lawsuit>book.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:08 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
Re: Ventura's new 'conspiracy theory' show, which I tried to show was not the first attempt to discredit him with the public. Sorry to huff.

The exact same kind of TV show was briefly offered to Oliver Stone who had been painted a 'whacko conspiracy theorist' for his 12/1991 'JFK' movie.

Read 'Into the Buzzsaw' edited by Kristina Borjesson which tells how news stories get suppressed, discredited, and crash along with the messenger's career. Good essay by Gary Webb on CIA media gatekeepers, for instance. ... 1573929727

The CIA media successfully made Oliver Stone's name synonymous with 'X Files,' a show created for the same reasons along with ramping up the tabloidy freak spectacle on TV shows typified by Jerry Springer.

Stone was lured into doing a segment on TWA800 along with a journalist who'd lost her job for pursuing that story, Kristina Borjesson.

After gobs of media scorn, the Oliver Stone 'conspiracy theory' show didn't even happen but the negative publicity had been spread far and wide.

So I'd love to know who is pulling the same stunt on Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.

A review of a lecture Borjesson gave at NYU- ... n/lecture/
In her book, she makes it clear how easily investigative journalists are discredited. Calling a reporter a conspiracy theorist or a crusader is often enough to make the public stop reading her—and to stop prospective employers from calling.
Into the Buzzsaw is also about the short attention span of today’s audience, and investigative journalism’s potential to enlighten the public—and its all too frequent tendency to ostracize it. As American Journalism Review writer Carl Session Stepp noted, “Investigative reporters can be hard-headed, inflamed, over-the-top. They are not always right, but their tenacity and bravado lead to stories that otherwise might never be told.” Even so, he conceded, muckrakers are “cultural irritants whose role is indispensable but possibly imperiled.”

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:08 pm
by Bridge It

Bumble Bee tuna.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:15 pm
by orz
Re: Ventura's new 'conspiracy theory' show, which I tried to show was not the first attempt to discredit him with the public. Sorry to huff.

His own show is an 'attempt to discredit him"? Have you considered the possibility that he's a WRESTLER WITH A POP-CONSPIRACY CULTURE TV SHOW and thus doesn't exactly need 'discrediting'? Or that if you didn't randomly approve of him for some personal reason you'd be throwing around your usual scattershot HE LITERALLY DIRECTLY WORKS FOR THE CIA slander like you do for everyone in the media you aren't interested in.

and don't act like you didn't GET THREE LETTERS OF A SIX-LETTER MOVIE TITLE COMPLETELY WRONG, pretty pathetic coming from someone who insists that individual letters, numbers or even colours have incredibly specific meaning

Re: Jesse Ventura's new conspiracy show

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:54 pm
by MinM
:fem2: Typecasting? :shrug:
Mickey Rourke caught making out with Evan Rachel Wood at SAG bash! | The Dish Rag | Los Angeles Times

Ironically the 21-year old actress hanging out with the old dude is probably much more politically astute and aware than Rourke. She's the daughter of Ira David Wood III:

:popcorn: Evan Rachel Wood joins 'Conspirator' :thumbsup001:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:55 pm
by MinM
All New
10P Wednesdays
Starting Dec. 2

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura on truTV


PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:50 am
by Nordic
Yeah, and the song "Ventura Highway" was written 30 years ago because they KNEW that someday they would need to discredit a guy whose last name was Ventura.

And and and Ventura California? Same thing. When they named that town, they KNEW that some day, somehow, they would need to distract someone from the TRUTH personified by a guy named Ventura!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:00 pm
by MinM
Ventura's on Larry King tonight. :thumbsup001:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:41 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
NPR is the CIA's domestic version of Voice of America and their weekend shows are loaded with psyops for semi-literate nine-to-five-ers.

On 11/28/09 their quiz show called 'Wait Wait Don't Tell Me' had as their celebrity phone-in participant...professional wrestler/actor, John Cena who was asked questions about figure skating to maximize the incongruent and discrediting imagery- ... =120833167

Message: "Reminder, folks, nothing is real about a silly professional wrestler."

TIMING. If you use real time context, Nordic, psyops makes sense.

Back in 2008 Jesse Ventura was on this show, too. I wonder what silly questions he was asked since I'm sure he wasn't asked about JFK or 9/11.
So the week before there was a CIA-Discovery Channel 'safe debunker' named Adam Savage, host of MythBusters, featured as inoculation to 'conspiracy theories' - ... %282008%29
May 10 Adam Savage, co-host of MythBusters
May 17 Jesse Ventura, Former Minnesota governor and professional wrestler

Another description of Inoculation Theory, Nordic, is-
"refutational pre-emption."

That's a primary function of psyops, steer you away from beliefs, values, and attitudes that are critical of power.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:51 pm
by Hugh Manatee Wins
**board bugs with BBCode**

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:52 pm
by seemslikeadream
MinM wrote:Ventura's on Larry King tonight. :thumbsup001:

and he said

How did those buildings fall down so fast?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:00 pm
by Skunkboy
Heres what the LA Times says about Jesse's new show. ... 1045.story


'Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura' on a mission
The former politician and wrestler mines the world of supposed coverups and secrets on truTV while playing fast and loose with actual facts.

Jesse Ventura, former governor and professional wrestler, takes on the government in his new show. (Jeremy Freeman / TruTV / November 18, 2009)

'Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura' details

Television Critic

December 2, 2009
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Jesse Ventura, who used to be the governor of Minnesota and before that was a professional wrestler known as "The Body," is now the star of a television docu-thriller series called “Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura.” It begins tonight on the truTV network (formerly Court TV), whose motto is "Not reality. Actuality" and whose other shows include "The Smoking Gun Presents," "Operation Repo," "Inside American Jail" and "Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel."

The idea here is that Ventura investigates -- is seen to appear to investigate is probably a better way of putting it -- some of the best-loved semi-secret narratives of our troubled times, including the 2012 apocalypse and the secret bunkers to which you will not be invited; the Bilderberg Group ("their latest alleged plan is to thin out the world's population through disease and vaccines"); and the notion that 9/11 was a stunt arranged by George W. Bush.

Attended in his "War Room" by an "elite team of reporters, researchers and operatives," who resemble a little more closely the kids of "TMZ on TV" than they do the Impossible Missions Force, Ventura casts his gaze into the empyrean thicket where urban legend tangles with political discourse and coincidence can look like causation. The narrative insists that Ventura will keep his mind open, but I don't suppose any of these episodes will end with the Governor -- everyone calls him Governor here -- judging any of these theories to be bunk. You can leave that to the MythBusters.

If anything, the show stacks the deck in favor of the theorists, who get the most screen time and the best camera angles. Tonight's episode concerns HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, an array of antennae in the Alaskan wilderness that shoots bursts of electricity into the ionosphere, which is said by some to have the capacity to change the weather, cause earthquakes and cloud the human mind. (The funding for the program comes largely from the Department of Defense.) The HAARP spokesman who counters the more sinister claims is said to be "in denial," rather than "making a denial," and HAARP itself is described as a "so-called research project" and "a weapon," though it has never been used as such. (The reply to that, I suppose, would be "How do you know it hasn't?")

The show is also conveniently loose in its interpretation of the word "evidence," which here seems to mean "something somebody says" -- as if my telling you there are monsters under my bed were proof that there are. There may be monsters under my bed, but for evidence you are going to have to go down there and take a picture, and I'm not just saying that because it's feeding time.

Whatever truth is out there, it's filtered here through what is arranged more as an adventure series than a documentary: "It all began when I got a call from a guy named Jerry Smith," says Ventura in his best gumshoe voice. "We met at an out-of-the-way tavern in St. Paul. He looked like an insurance agent but there was nothing mild-mannered about what he had to say."

I'm sure that the military would like to be able to control the weather and your mind -- who wouldn't? But you don't have to believe any of these, let's say, interesting propositions to find "Conspiracy Theory" enjoyable. In its mix of low budget and dramatic overstatement it has the amiability of a B-movie or Saturday afternoon serial.

The Governor's quest brings him right to the gates of HAARP, where he is denied entry (and his cameras go haywire). "An operation that's run by the Navy doesn't shut out a former Navy SEAL unless they've got something to hide," he says, and though this is an arguable statement, you put enough of them together and soon enough you're wearing a colander on your head to keep the voices out.
Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:15 pm
by beeline
Jesse explained the "Ventura" name on the Howard Stern Show this morning. Apparantly, when he first got into wrestling, he wanted to create a persona that was a surfer-dude wrestler from Califorina. So, he kept combining Jesse with the names of towns on a map of California, and Ventura stuck. He is one of the few wrestlers that wrestled in the WWF to retain a copyright to his name, since he was "Jesse Ventura" before he partnered with the WWF/Vince McMahon. It was an interesting interview, from the standpoint that he believes the US government either LIHOP or MIHOP-ed 9/11.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:23 pm
by MinM
Skunkboy wrote:Tonight's episode concerns HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, an array of antennae in the Alaskan wilderness that shoots bursts of electricity into the ionosphere, which is said by some to have the capacity to change the weather, cause earthquakes and cloud the human mind...

:playharp: Ventura mentioned this on Larry King too. Seems like an odd choice to kickoff a new show? :shrug:

Looks like this might turn into the next Conspiracy Zone
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:36 pm
by Code Unknown
orz wrote:
Re: Ventura's new 'conspiracy theory' show, which I tried to show was not the first attempt to discredit him with the public. Sorry to huff.

His own show is an 'attempt to discredit him"?


Yeah, an (yet another) attempt to discredit conspiracism I could see...