'Gremlins' - WWIIDisney/Vietnam/Plum decoy by Spielberg

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'Gremlins' - WWIIDisney/Vietnam/Plum decoy by Spielberg

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:18 pm

...transposed from another thread...

Ha. "Gizmo the Gremlin." 1984 Spielberg.
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Steven CIA Spielberg was mulching three National inSecurity State psyop liabilities into assets with his 1984 version of 'Gremlins,' a film violent enough to cause parents to grab their kidz and walk out in droves. Soon movie ratings were changed to accommodate the new levels of violence used to condition kidz with psyops. We were told it was to protect kidz but the effect was just the opposite.

The three liabilities were:
> Disney's WWII history making USG propaganda, which it still does
> Vietnam Syndrome, resulting from the disastrous Vietnam War
> Plum Island being condemned in a report and public suspicions about the origins of AIDS

In 1983 the National Academy of Sciences issued a scathing report on the Plum Island germ lab calling for it to be closed down.
The gist of the report was that too many 'gremlins' had already gotten away and conditions were still unsafe. Containment systems and procedures had been breached. Thank Plum Island for Lyme Disease, atleast.
In 1983 people were still wondering where AIDS had come from and some suspicions turned towards government labs like Fort Detrick and its partner, Plum Island.

http://www.amazon.com/Lab-257-Disturbin ... 0060011416

The meme "containment" is a very important psyop tool.

Containing communism was the alleged reason for US militarism during the Cold War and was again being promoted as the justification for the Reagan-era CIA wars against poor brown people in Central America by death squads and financed by dumping cocaine into US cities.

So this containment concept needed to be resold and its failures minimized. Like Vietnam and Plum Island.

Spielberg fictionalized the germ lab concept into woo while portraying it as having a mysterious Asian source, a trick also used in another CIA-Disney decoy of escaped germs called 'Stitch, the Movie.'

But he also hijacked for his title a keyword with a WWII history that exposes Disney as a government propaganda company because...Disney (and the rest of Hollywood) was to be used to re-militarize America's kidz and thus 'recover' from 'Vietnam Syndrome,' a reluctance to use mass murder as national policy.

Back when CIA-Disney was still trying to hide its WWII psyops work, an old primer for Air Force pilots (or their kidz) called 'The Gremlins' (now an expensive collector's item) -
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...was displaced twice with decoys, a 1961 and a 1983 television episode about 'gremlins on planes'-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_at_20,000_Feet
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and then the 1984 CIA-Hollywood Spielberg movie called...'Gremlins.'
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Included in Spielberg's color symbolism was negative framing of black/white equality, a scheme used in other films, too, with Cruella deVil being the best example-
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and also negative framing of the color green since the Green Party had just been officially formed in Europe in '79 and was growing off the environmental movement.
In 1983, Dante publicly distanced his work from earlier films. He explained, "Our gremlins are somewhat different—they're sort of green and they have big mouths and they smile a lot and they do incredibly, really nasty things to people and enjoy it all the while."

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Sorry to spread page with a big photo but notice something.
The evil gooey green gremlin's eye is...a PENTAGON.

You'll find lots of subliminal pentagons in Spielberg's CIA products.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.
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Original 'Gremlins' author Roald Dahl later wrote Cold War propaganda for kidz, just like Brit spook Ian Fleming who wrote 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.'

http://delarue.net/gremlins.htm
In the darkest hours of World War II, the British Secret Service infiltrated agents into both enemy and neutral countries. The purpose of these agents behind enemy lines is obvious; but in neutral USA, led by "A Man Called Intrepid", these agents had a less obvious purpose: to inspire sufficient public sympathy to enable Roosevelt to openly support Britain.

These agents included actors, astrologers and - a children's author! Not only that, but the children's author was infiltrating Walt Disney's studios!


Roald Dahl, then a pilot injured in action with the RAF, was sent to the US as an air attaché. His outspoken style made him at once unpopular with his Air Force chiefs, and a favourite of the cocktail set. He was packed home, recruited by William Stephenson (Intrepid), then sent back with a promotion, much to the chagrin of his chiefs.

He wrote The Gremlins, a book for children about the hazards of being an RAF pilot. These were the original Gremlins - Dahl claimed that he coined the name (a claim that has been disputed). These Gremlins were the anthropomorphised explanation for any mishaps experienced by pilots and their machines.

One edition of a cartoon book was printed by Disney, and plans were in place to make an animated movie version. The Gremlins in the book have more than a passing resemblance to Mickey Mouse. They certainly appeared much milder than some more recent portrayals of their species, and probably milder than Dahl's idea of them.

Dahl's presence in Washington came to the attention of Eleanor Roosevelt, who had been reading The Gremlins to her grandchildren. Through this, he gained close contact with FDR, and was in his confidence on many war issues. It is claimed that he also became an informal, but very important go-between for Roosevelt and Churchill.

It appears that Disney may have worked out what was going on, as the movie was never made. The book has never been re-printed.

Based on an article that originally appeared in the Jan/Feb 1998 edition of TableAus.


And then in 2006-

http://www.afdw.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123033463
Mr. Stephens began the Gremlins Project in February 2006, finding a rare copy of the Dahl book in the National Archives. His research showed that Dahl, then a Royal Air Force flight lieutenant, had served in Washington during the time in which the book was written.
"Dahl was an air attaché here during the war," said Mr. Stephens. "His duties had him working closely alongside Air Force visionaries at Bolling Field on Operation Bolero, as well as other critical needs. Bolero was an important mission, providing flyers, airplanes and other equipment to Britain for the extensive buildup of the Normandy invasion over a long period of time. It is likely that then-Lieutenant Dahl wrote this book as a way to de-stress from the demands of mission planning, as well as a tongue-in-cheek ribbing of mechanical problems that plagued Allied airmen."
The story goes that, after Lieutenant Dahl crashed an airplane earlier in the war, he blamed gremlins--little magical creatures that injected mischief into the everyday operations of pilots. The concept had universal appeal: a scapegoat for when things don't go the way they're supposed to, and was embraced by pilots everywhere.
But Dahl's story goes further, Mr. Stephens said. The book delivers a moral lesson as well--that those problems that plague pilots can be overcome through cooperation and that building a friendship can turn a problem into a winning solution.
The message for children is different, said Mr. Stephens.
"Airmen can read this book to their children and explain that they always have someone looking out for them. Children worry that their parents go into battle alone, because they don't understand the social structure of the military. The gremlins then becomes a metaphor for the wingmen who serve alongside us, comforting our children in the process. It's an unrivaled opportunity for parents to bond with their children in a military setting; a real win-win for the Air Force."
Mr. Stephens said that Walt Disney was one of the loudest and most effective advocates of airpower and of a separate service during World War II. He added that the animator-entrepreneur invested his own money into a serious animated feature making the case for the Air Force. That movie, "Victory Through Airpower," is also part of Mr. Stephens' history-themed projects for the Air Force 60th Anniversary.
"Walt Disney created this image of the air as a place of adventure and wonder, inspiring American citizens to think of the world beyond their horizon," Mr. Stephens said. "The Gremlins was one such vision, and it clearly moved the great thinkers of the time. During World War II, many airpower advocates owned copies of the book--from the Women's Air Force Service Pilots, who adopted the female gremlin, Fifinella, as their mascot, to first lady Eleanor Roosevelt herself.
The book is almost impossible to find now; the rarest of the rare with fewer than 300 copies known to exist worldwide today."
Originally intended as a local re-release for the 11th Wing only, the Air Force 60th Anniversary Committee asked Mr. Stephens to pursue a larger-scale project to get the books into the hands of Airmen everywhere.
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Postby IanEye » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:22 pm

Hi Hugh!

Please, please, please don't say anything harsh about Phoebe Cates in this thread, ok?

Thanks!
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Postby justdrew » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:29 pm

don't forget the Bugs Bunny ep...

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Re: 'Gremlins' - WWIIDisney/Vietnam/Plum decoy by Spielberg

Postby Telexx » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:48 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Original 'Gremlins' author Roald Dahl later wrote Cold War propaganda for kidz, just like Brit spook Ian Fleming who wrote 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.'


1. You have not stated how his writing is 'Cold War propaganda'. In linguistic terms, this is a "lost performative" in that the basis for your judgement ('Dahl wrote propaganda') is missing.

2. You have linked Dahl to Ian Fleming by saying they are alike. In linguistic terms this is a 'complex equivalance' because that you are not demonstrating how Fleming and Dahl are alike (the fact that Dahl worked on material with Fleming does not equal Dahl is like Flaming.)

So:

Demonstrate that Dahl's (who turned down an OBE in the '80's) work is (totally, partially, whatever) 'Cold War proaganda' or admit this is slanderous speculation.

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Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:05 pm

I predict one of two possible responses to your post, Telexx: the ghost-town sounds of Arizona tumbleweeds, or a full-on, quotation-packed Chinese fire drill.

Hugh wrote:and also negative framing of the color green since the Green Party had just been officially formed in Europe in '79 and was growing off the environmental movement.


This statement is pure woo, that is to say, it is an assumption without basis in any facts whatsoever. The color green has a millenium-long association with evil, envy, jealousy, sickness and death that has been exploited by artists since, ohh... forever. Are we to take it on faith that any Hollywood movie since 1979 featuring a green monster is making a conscious effort to work against the Green Party?

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Hugh wrote:notice the shape of the fake lens flare


What is meant by the word "fake" here? Are you saying the lens flare was digitally added? Can you document this? Or is this more baseless assumption? FWIW, "The specific spatial distribution of the flare depends on the shape of the aperture of the image formation elements. For example, if the lens has a 6-bladed aperture, the flare may have a hexagonal pattern."

Beyond that, do you have any hard evidence that Disney has tried to downplay or disavow their propaganda work during WW2? Knowledge of their role during the conflict is a commonplace among just about anyone who has any interest in these matters. I have personally been aware of this since early childhood.

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These kinds of scattershot faux-ssociations have contributed to the overall weakness of this particular piece of Hugh-pocrypha, and by their ridiculousness tends to work against your central argument. Not your best work, Hugh. Thanks for the post, though.

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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:40 pm

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:42 pm

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:43 pm

In 'E.T.' where the kidz are bicycling the alien to the woods so he can go home and their bicycles lift into the air...right at the emotional highpoint as they fly off towards a sunset *notice the shape of the fake lens flare. There are two fake lens flare shapes used as subliminals, first a pentagon and then a bell, as in, Liberty Bell. Then the alien ship that lifts off is shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building. This is because 'E.T.' was made to hijack the Vietnam POW left-behind scandal.

HMMM are you sure those aren't...... ORBS :shock:
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:46 pm

Mods is it possible to add a word filter to this board? Please please please make it so that if you type 'for kidz' it displays 'FOR THE LULZ' 8)

Original 'Gremlins' author Roald Dahl later wrote Cold War propaganda FOR THE LULZ
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:09 pm

CIA SECRETLY ALTERS SHAPE OF SPECIAL EFFECTS DEPARTMENT'S CAMERA APARTURE! FILM AT 11
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:13 pm

Don't have a copy of ET on me, can someone get their old VHS out and confirm my hypothesis as follows:
• The lensflares are not actually (a) fake, (b) pentagonal.
• Then the alien ship that lifts off is not shaped like the U.S. Capitol Building.

The evil gooey green gremlin's eye is...a PENTAGON.

yes one of those rare rounded six-sided pentagons.
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Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:28 pm

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The resemblance is not startling.
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:29 pm

SIG TEST: 8)
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:36 pm

Imagine a 'hilarious' picture of the capitol building realistically photoshopped to resemble a giant turnip. I got as far as the google image search before I snapped out of it. :oops:
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Postby orz » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:38 pm

while you're at it imagine one of the Pentagon with six walls.
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