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Paranormal experiences vs. targeted individual psyops

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:03 pm
by psynapz
I was listening to a podcast interview with a woman who was originally a straight-laced insurance-billing accident-victim chiropractor who thought new-agey stuff was all "woo-woo" as she put it, until she had a voluntary crystal-healing experience on her practitioner friend's table (at said friend's repeat urgings) wherein she felt a pull on one side of her body, followed by an audible pop, followed by an experience she describes as clairaudient where a voice began to speak to her claiming to be one of her guardian angels (which she surmises is merely a human-palatable representation of an extradimensional intelligence seeking to educate her) and that they've been waiting to be able to speak to her for her whole life and were overjoyed she could finally hear them.

It's been some years now since this experience and the helpful voices have remained a consistent part of her daily conscious experience. After being declared not-schizophrenic or anything else that would result in such hallucinations, and being told by mental health professionals that her condition fell into the "paranormal experience" category, she decided to alter her professional practice to become a new-agey healer instead, and can even do essentially channeled readings for people from whatever said voices tell her. She was rather sensible about it all, and prefers to educate her clients on the basic science of vibration and frequency entrainment while she does tuning-fork-and-crystal work on a table which features a matrix of crystals and lasers and whatnot, all in accordance with the teachings of the benevolent new voices in her head.

And I wondered, listening to this podcast, how any of us could know whether they're being clairaudiently communicated with by extradimensional or other benevolent discarnate entities, or whether it's some buzzcut bastard with a microphone following orders to psychotronically convince 0.001% of the population to go out in turn and make loud noise to all who will listen about new agey topics which convince the most conscious demographics to calm down and keep from rising up against the machine.

Personally, I think some paranormal experiences are just that, and we're learning more every day about a new kind of science which integrates energies and intelligences from n-dimensional space, and that perhaps the vibrations will shift in our favor as we cross the galactic plane and we all turn into superheroes and whatnot.

However, thanks to the dark sciences of recent, I think some such experiences are manufactured. They can create screen memories to convince a person they've had an awakening in a crystal healer's office on a comfy faux-leather-padded table when in reality they were surrounded by Mengelic doctors on a cold metal table. Then they can follow up with regular voice-to-skull transmissions and maybe even the right kind of periodic street theater and dedicated handler meddling just to further corroborate the desired reality tunnel for the victim.

It could be surmised that some such MK activity is intended to muddy the waters of otherwise noble and potentially empire-obviating areas of conscious development, so how would we know if we were having genuine metaphysical awakenings, or just the manufactured experience of a really good psyop, ie. Dia*a N*po*is (if that's not mere mental illness)?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:31 pm
by lightningBugout
"Mere mental illness" in this culture is anything but mere. Our culture is apparently in the process of "naturally" selecting individuals who are able to withstand the most cognitive dissonance and remain highly functional. Increasingly, recognition of that dissonance is associated with madness (ie all you conspiracy theorists who think there is anything odd about the complete and total failure of air defense on 9/11 are paranoid). Despite my wholehearted desire to avoid future discussion of the p*rs*n you mentioned in your post, she brings to mind another possibility - waking up is hard to do. Or, IOW, trying to reconcile deep cognitive dissonance, much less fight against it, in a world that wants no such thing may be, itself, taxing enough to drive someone mad. Consider this another good reason to take your vitamins, eat your fruits and vegetables and get some exercise.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:42 pm
by psynapz
lightningBugout wrote:trying to reconcile deep cognitive dissonance, much less fight against it, in a world that wants no such thing may be, itself, taxing enough to drive someone mad.

Indeed, which I think I started to get at with my response to the "Collapse" doco on Ruppert... this shit drives us all mad for a while. Sometimes I panic when I realize I'm not actively responding to the greatest insanity of which I've learned, like I've grown complacent as a self-defense mechanism that will prevent me from staying out of the way of greater harm as it rolls slowly up the pike.

lightningBugout wrote:Consider this another good reason to take your vitamins, eat your fruits and vegetables and get some exercise.

And eat a balanced diet of information that includes nutritious, actionable information from each of the major information groups. For instance, after reading McGowan's Programmed to Kill, I had a heaping hardcover full of Paul Hawken's Blessed Unrest, which really did have a calming effect in addition to replenishing my then-failing optimism.

Next up is Dolan's UFO's and the National Security State, and I'm still trying to decide what to read to counteract that one when I'm done.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:11 pm
by IanEye
psynapz wrote:
Next up is Dolan's UFO's and the National Security State, and I'm still trying to decide what to read to counteract that one when I'm done.


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This book is great.
I had read a book about the Process Church right before and it had kind of bummed me out. Then i read Ms. Lesser's book and felt a lot better...

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:16 pm
by exojuridik
lightningBugout wrote:"Mere mental illness" in this culture is anything but mere. Our culture is apparently in the process of "naturally" selecting individuals who are able to withstand the most cognitive dissonance and remain highly functional. Increasingly, recognition of that dissonance is associated with madness (ie all you conspiracy theorists who think there is anything odd about the complete and total failure of air defense on 9/11 are paranoid).


My experiences in academia, law school and the professional world do confirm this insight. There is an unspoken vetting process in any competitive environment that favors individuals who cultivate a unreflective, OCD personality. These people tend to be crazy in an (self)abusive, win-at-all-costs kinda of way. Ideas, emotions or thoughts are considered rational or acceptable insofar as they help you win. After many years of competing in these arenas and having to deal with these "winners," I have come to the conclusion that authentic introspection and ratiocination are antithetical to the professional world. If something can't be gamed or controlled it is by definition a liability.

Personally, I think some paranormal experiences are just that, and we're learning more every day about a new kind of science which integrates energies and intelligences from n-dimensional space, and that perhaps the vibrations will shift in our favor as we cross the galactic plane and we all turn into superheroes and whatnot.

However, thanks to the dark sciences of recent, I think some such experiences are manufactured. They can create screen memories to convince a person they've had an awakening in a crystal healer's office on a comfy faux-leather-padded table when in reality they were surrounded by Mengelic doctors on a cold metal table. Then they can follow up with regular voice-to-skull transmissions and maybe even the right kind of periodic street theater and dedicated handler meddling just to further corroborate the desired reality tunnel for the victim.


I agnostic about everything even after having gone through my own exotic set of experiences. The only viable insight I can relate from my trip down the rabbit-hole is that the so-called sane, rational world is anything but. And I mean that literally. However, I do not discount the fact that there is a project afoot to model and colonize our consciousness. And I certainly do not rule-out the use of electromagnetic, biochemical and/or alien technologies to achieve this end.

I would recommend reading Pynchon's novel, Against the Day. In it he explores the triumph achieved by the control-freak proponents of x/y Minkowskian time-space against the stranger formulations offered by an acceptance of ijk dimensional mapping.

Re: Paranormal experiences vs. targeted individual psyops

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:30 pm
by justdrew
psynapz wrote:I was listening to a podcast interview with a woman who was originally a straight-laced insurance-billing accident-victim chiropractor who thought new-agey stuff was all "woo-woo" as she put it, until she had a voluntary crystal-healing experience on her practitioner friend's table (at said friend's repeat urgings) wherein she felt a pull on one side of her body, followed by an audible pop, followed by an experience she describes as clairaudient where a voice began to speak to her claiming to be one of her guardian angels (which she surmises is merely a human-palatable representation of an extradimensional intelligence seeking to educate her) and that they've been waiting to be able to speak to her for her whole life and were overjoyed she could finally hear them.

It's been some years now since this experience and the helpful voices have remained a consistent part of her daily conscious experience. After being declared not-schizophrenic or anything else that would result in such hallucinations, and being told by mental health professionals that her condition fell into the "paranormal experience" category, she decided to alter her professional practice to become a new-agey healer instead, and can even do essentially channeled readings for people from whatever said voices tell her. She was rather sensible about it all, and prefers to educate her clients on the basic science of vibration and frequency entrainment while she does tuning-fork-and-crystal work on a table which features a matrix of crystals and lasers and whatnot, all in accordance with the teachings of the benevolent new voices in her head.

And I wondered, listening to this podcast, how any of us could know whether they're being clairaudiently communicated with by extradimensional or other benevolent discarnate entities, or whether it's some buzzcut bastard with a microphone following orders to psychotronically convince 0.001% of the population to go out in turn and make loud noise to all who will listen about new agey topics which convince the most conscious demographics to calm down and keep from rising up against the machine.

Personally, I think some paranormal experiences are just that, and we're learning more every day about a new kind of science which integrates energies and intelligences from n-dimensional space, and that perhaps the vibrations will shift in our favor as we cross the galactic plane and we all turn into superheroes and whatnot.

However, thanks to the dark sciences of recent, I think some such experiences are manufactured. They can create screen memories to convince a person they've had an awakening in a crystal healer's office on a comfy faux-leather-padded table when in reality they were surrounded by Mengelic doctors on a cold metal table. Then they can follow up with regular voice-to-skull transmissions and maybe even the right kind of periodic street theater and dedicated handler meddling just to further corroborate the desired reality tunnel for the victim.

It could be surmised that some such MK activity is intended to muddy the waters of otherwise noble and potentially empire-obviating areas of conscious development, so how would we know if we were having genuine metaphysical awakenings, or just the manufactured experience of a really good psyop, ie. Dia*a N*po*is (if that's not mere mental illness)?


well, maybe she could go down to the bottom of carlsbad cavern and see if the voices still talk. I doubt the microwave voice-to-skull stuff would work down there, and I don't think the transmitters would be portable and camouflage-able.

or go to any other very shielded area with massive amounts of metal all around. Anywhere she can't get cell coverage would be a good rule of thumb guess to screen out unexpected.

Still I'd think the MO for psychotronics in a case like this would require some implantable device, rather than just directed energy. Sounds like she's able to enter into dialog with the voices. so again environmental shielding, and talk with them to rule out merely recorded playback.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:39 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
lightningBugout wrote:Our culture is apparently in the process of "naturally" selecting individuals who are able to withstand the most cognitive dissonance and remain highly functional.


Going to be thinking about that one for the rest of the night. Thank you.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:55 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
What Drew said.

Plus... if its still happening in a "shielded environment":

Test everything that you hear or see or whatever - all information.

Any magician with any self respect that summons or messes about with entities never takes them on face value. If weird stuff like that starts happening to you, and you find yourself entering a "dialogue" with something that claims its an entity of some sort, test the fuck out of it. Challenge it and make sure it gets results that are accurate in real life and all that.

And once its passed those tests keep testing it. All the time.

Especially if its trying to teach you shit...

If these things are real then the only benefit you'll get from them is from thinking about their shit for yourself. And coming to your own conclusions.

Having said all that....

Well I certainly wouldn't put it past anyone to use the sort of technology that is claimed to to exist to initiate "channelling events" in this context:

And I wondered, listening to this podcast, how any of us could know whether they're being clairaudiently communicated with by extradimensional or other benevolent discarnate entities, or whether it's some buzzcut bastard with a microphone following orders to psychotronically convince 0.001% of the population to go out in turn and make loud noise to all who will listen about new agey topics which convince the most conscious demographics to calm down and keep from rising up against the machine.


I guess you have to look to the teaching themselves in that case wouldn't you.

Really that should be a given anyway... why would you trust a discarnate entity over someone in a cubicle somewhere telling you to be positive? And if there is a program of targeting people with microwave messages ... whats to say some of the people doing the targeting aren't subverting it anyway?

Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:58 am
by vigilant
psynapz wrote:
Next up is Dolan's UFO's and the National Security State, and I'm still trying to decide what to read to counteract that one when I'm done.

When i'm in the rabbit hole too deep, or its bummin me out for some reason, I often turn to stuff like this little video clips on youtube of the fibonacci sequence, goldenmean ratio, etc...

it helps to remind me of the true beauty of the synchronicity around us, and not always dwell on the darker aspects...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxzPSwVMFaA&NR=1

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:39 pm
by elfismiles
A massage therapy table strikes me as a perfect place to be targeted by Holosonic sound:

Guided By Voices
...

Holosonic sound technologies project a high pitched directional beam of ultrasound audio to an exact location, usually where the target audience’s head will be. The victim will hear a voice, music, advertisement, or whatever the beams controller would like, inside their head. No-one around them would be able to hear it, unless they could drag someone to that exact spot and hope the beam was still trained on the same location.

http://www.anomalymagazine.com/2008/02/ ... by-voices/


I agree with other posters suggestion of constantly testing the veracity of the voices especially in attempting to ascertain possible shielding effects which could immediately obviate the use of Holosonic sound technology.

Greg Bishop just let his co-host Walter Bosley interview self-proclaimed NSA mind-control victim Michael Terry on his Radio Misterioso radioshow. I don't think he's going to post the archive. I recorded it though. Seems like a classic case of psychologically originating voices in the head but which the victim has managed to integrate into his life as best he can.

The Setup: Memoirs of an NSA Black Operation
http://www.amazon.com/Setup-Memoirs-NSA ... 0595459838

Summary of Ten Years of NSA Dealings by Michael Terry
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/mterry.htm

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:07 pm
by 23
Joe Hillshoist wrote:Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear.


Exactly so. And most folks, I've discovered, have very little practice or acumen in listening to to their own inner dialogue.

Until you do, you are very subject to hearing your own voice projected onto others. Without recognizing it to be your own voice, that is.

It's our inner dialogue that we should first be placing our attention on. To discern what may be our projections or not.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:10 pm
by 23
23 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear.


Exactly so. And most folks, I've discovered, have very little practice or acumen in listening to their own inner dialogue (this is where the practice of meditation can be extremely helpful, I might add).

Until you do (become proficient in listening to your inner dialogue, that is), you are very subject to hearing your own voice projected onto others. Without recognizing it to be your own voice, of course.

It's our inner dialogue that we should first be placing our attention on. To discern what may be our projections or not.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:11 pm
by 23
23 wrote:Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear.


Exactly so. And most folks, I've discovered, have very little practice or acumen in listening to their own inner dialogue (this is where the practice of meditation can be extremely helpful, I might add).

Until you do (become proficient in listening to your inner dialogue, that is), you are very subject to hearing your own voice projected onto others. Without recognizing it to be your own voice, of course.

It's our inner dialogue that we should first be placing our attention on. To discern what may be our projections or not.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:14 pm
by 23
"Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear."


Exactly so. And most folks, I've discovered, have very little practice or acumen in listening to their own inner dialogue (this is where the practice of meditation can be extremely helpful, I might add).

Until you do (become proficient in listening to your inner dialogue, that is), you are very subject to hearing your own voice projected onto others. Without recognizing it to be your own voice, of course.

It's our inner dialogue that we should first be placing our attention on. To discern what may be our projections or not.[/quote]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:16 pm
by 23
"Everyone hears voices in their head most of the time anyway, usually conducting an inner dialogue with themselves or something else... they are probably worth listening to, but then its worth critically examining what you hear."


Exactly so. And most folks, I've discovered, have very little practice or acumen in listening to their own inner dialogue (this is where the practice of meditation can be extremely helpful, I might add).

Until you do (become proficient in listening to your inner dialogue, that is), you are very subject to hearing your own voice projected onto others. Without recognizing it to be your own voice, of course.

It's our inner dialogue that we should first be placing our attention on. To discern what may be our projections or not.