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Is Erik Prince 'Graymailing' the US Government?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:51 pm
by seemslikeadream
Is Erik Prince 'Graymailing' the US Government?

By Jeremy Scahill

December 4, 2009


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There is no doubt Prince is in the legal cross-hairs: There are reportedly two separate Grand Juries investigating Blackwater on a range of serious charges, ranging from gun smuggling to extralegal killings; multiple civil lawsuits alleging war crimes and extrajudicial killings; and Congress is investigating the assassination program in which Prince and his company were central players. "Obviously, Prince does know a lot and the government has to realize that once they start prosecuting him," says Melanie Sloan, a former federal prosecutor and the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. "In some ways, graymail is what any good defense lawyer would do. This is something that's in your arsenal."

Perhaps the most prominent case of graymail was by Oliver North when he and his lawyers used it to force dismissal of the most serious charges against him stemming from his involvement in the Iran-Contra Affair. In another case, known as Khazak-gate, a US businessman, James Giffen, allegedly paid $78 million in bribes to former Khazakh Prime Minister Nurlan Balgimbayev in an attempt to win contracts for western oil companies to develop the Tengiz oil fields in the 1990s. In 1993, he was charged with violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in the largest overseas bribery case in history. After Giffen was indicted, he claimed that if he did what he was accused of, he did it in the service of US intelligence agencies. The case has been in limbo ever since.

"This is as old as the hills as a tactic and it has a long track record of being very effective against the government," says Horton. "It's basically a threat to the government that if you prosecute me, I'll disclose all sorts of national security-sensitive information. The bottom line here is it's like an act of extortion or a threat: you do X and this is what I'm going to do." Horton said that the Vanity Fair article was Prince "essentially putting out the warning to the Department of Justice: 'You prosecute me and all this stuff will be out on the record.'"

According to Ciralsky's article, Prince was a "full-blown asset" of "the C.I.A.'s National Resources Division [which] recruited Prince in 2004 to join a secret network of American citizens with special skills or unusual access to targets of interest:"


Two sources familiar with the arrangement say that Prince's handlers obtained provisional operational approval from senior management to recruit Prince and later generated a "201 file," which would have put him on the agency's books as a vetted asset. It's not at all clear who was running whom, since Prince says that, unlike many other assets, he did much of his work on spec, claiming to have used personal funds to road-test the viability of certain operations...


Prince was developing unconventional means of penetrating "hard target" countries--where the C.I.A. has great difficulty working either because there are no stations from which to operate or because local intelligence services have the wherewithal to frustrate the agency's designs. "I made no money whatsoever off this work," Prince contends. He is unwilling to specify the exact nature of his forays. "I'm painted as this war profiteer by Congress. Meanwhile I'm paying for all sorts of intelligence activities to support American national security, out of my own pocket."

"I think that [Prince] will use all of his information and his knowledge of these secret dealings in basically what is an extortion play: 'You come after me, and I'll spill the beans on everything,'" says Horton. "That's the essence of graymail and the Department of Justice will usually get its feathers all ruffled up and they'll say, 'You can't deal with the government like this. This is unfair and improper.' But in the end, it usually works."

In the Vanity Fair article, Prince alleges that he was outed--by whom he does not say, but the implication is that CIA Director Leon Panetta named him in a closed door hearing of the Intelligence Committee last June, and then the name was leaked by one of the attendees of that hearing. Sloan, the former federal prosecutor, said that if what Prince says in the Vanity Fair article about his role in secret CIA programs is true, he has a case that laws were broken in revealing his identity. "I'm not his fan, but he's not wrong. For somebody to leak his identity as a CIA asset clearly merits a criminal investigation," Sloan said. "Whether they should have ever hired Erik Prince or made him into an asset is a separate question. Assuming he really was a CIA asset, basically a spy, an undercover operative, and somebody decided to leak that, that's not acceptable and that is a violation of the same law that leaking Valerie [Plame]'s identity was. If you can't leak one person, you can't leak any person, not just the people you like versus the people you don't like."

While much of the focus in the Vanity Fair story was on Prince's work with the CIA, the story also confirmed that Blackwater has an ongoing relationship with the US Special Forces, helping plan missions and providing air support. As The Nation reported, Blackwater has for years been working on a classified contract with the Joint Special Operations Command in a drone bombing campaign in Pakistan, as well as planning snatch-and-grab missions and targeted assassinations. Part of what may be happening behind closed doors is that the CIA is, to an extent, cutting Blackwater and Prince off. But, as sources have told The Nation, the company remains a central player in US Special Forces operations in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Prince's choice of Adam Ciralsky to tell his story is an interesting one as well. Ciralsky was a CIA lawyer who in 1997 was suspended under suspicion he was having unauthorized contacts with possible Israeli intelligence agents. Ciralsky vehemently denied the allegations, saying he was the victim of a "witch-hunt" at the Agency. In any case, there is no question that Prince would view Ciralsky through the lens of his own struggle against the CIA. "When I saw the article, the first thing that just leapt off the page was his name. I thought, 'My god, why would he go to Adam?'" said Horton. "And then I read the article and I thought, of course he'd go to Adam. There is this legal theme being developed in the article and Adam, as a lawyer who had dealt with the CIA, fully understands that. I mean I think he fully understood he was going to do a piece that would help Prince develop his legal defense and that's what this is. The amazing thing to me is that Vanity Fair printed it. Do the editors of Vanity Fair not understand what's going on here?"

PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:29 pm
by Nordic
I sure wish there were more Jeremy Scahill's in the world.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:58 am
by thatsmystory
Prosecution of Prince? By this government? Really?

It sounds more like a PR effort. Blackwater=CIA. Thus Blackwater conduct=officially sanctioned government policy. So members of Congress can no longer pretend that Blackwater is a rogue force.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:50 am
by 82_28
Is Erik Prince 'Graymailing' the US Government?

Yes. A slightly darker shade however.

Nobody goes into this business. I mean nobody. It isn't even a business! It is the new American Mafia in plain sight and completely invisible. It is based entirely on 100% of humanity being expendable and a gated community back at home to protect you when you wanna relax, you being in the "know". Indeed, the very last business venture there ever shall be. Humanity shall not be all that dies, but so shall these idiots' businesses and governments.

This is where we are. Ugh. . .

Precisely no morals or ethics exist.

Let's just be done with it and get on with it. Fuck them all to fucking hell.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:22 pm
by thatsmystory
Graymail?

If anything Prince has only risked prosecution by way of the Vanity Fair article. After all, the only act worthy of prosecution is leaking evidence of illegal government conduct (i.e. Thomas Tamm and the NY Times in relation to warrantless surveillance).

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:01 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
I don't think the greymail was ever necessary. He's never been under any serious threat of prosecution, has he?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:07 pm
by 82_28
The dude is free. Justice no longer exists. Of that, I have no doubt.

As long as blackwater (Xe -- fuckin fags) isn't broken up and disassembled, I will no longer have any doubts ever who is behind this bullshit.


Flowers that decay on the graves that are fresh.
The problem got buried alongside the flesh.
The contamination of body and soul.
By nuclear waste dumped along time ago.
When fther was thirty he worked for the state.
Producing the weapon to keep a stalemate.
Deterence by inference no one could win.
Balancing power but the knife edge was thin.

Father was paid so he didn't complain.
But felt that it was rather a dangerous game.
Producing a toy to destroy was it wrong?
But problems came up so he had to stay on.
The production of waste was the problem to solve.
It wouldn't evaporate, rot or dissolve.
They used metal coffins to bury at sea
The nuclear raidoactivity.
They said it was safe for a very long time
And paid off the papers to say that was fine.
And nobody worried about that anymore.
They were too busy worrying about the next war.

The wastage seeped out and diseases were found
In the lungs of the men who worked underground.
"It's coaldust, it's cancer; it's normal" they said.
'Til somebody shouted, "These people are dying, someone is lying"
And Father is dead.

---Subhumans "Someone is Lying


On and on and so it goes. . .

(btw, I have taken to the term calling people "fags". I am "straight" and have many gay homosapiens in my close circles. But this is the best curse word we can call these fuckers right now. It could be the only word we can use to insult them anymore. FAGS! Yes. And I am sorry for any offense.)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:58 pm
by StarmanSkye
'Fuck them all to Fucking Hell', damn STRAIGHT alright.

There are VERY few examples where endemic civil strife, governmental fraud and corruption, rampant criminality, cycles of violence and organized criminal franchises throughout the developing world don't have the stink of CIA involvement about them, ALWAYS having been done on a wildly-contrived or greatly exaggerated and misstated pretext, either amounting to the 'danger' of Communist expansionism or narco-criminality , or more recently, Islamofascist-driven terrorism.

The consequences in terms of civil wars, strong-man dictatorships, feuding warlords, escalating violence and horrific atrocities intended to terrorize and shock any and all resistance, economic collapse, decay of vital state institutions and infrastructure, large numbers of refugees -- can hardly be unforeseen and in many cases undoubtedly were intended, by the perps in the CIA and State Dept. and military 'leadership' whose actions CAUSED so much of the suffering, injustices and barbarism that is present in the world today.

Sometimes I'm REALLY at a loss for appropriate words to call them -- certainly they are war-criminals, butchers, thieves, marauders, grifters (on a global scale), racketeers, con-men, murderers -- but those descriptors don't begin to really identify the evil, delusional arrogance, contempt for all things noble, decent and valiant, their core rottoness and utter lack of compassion for the people killed and injured by their agenda.

But 'fag'? I can't help but see the use of such a word used to disparage, mock and insult the villainous, evil-doing spook-types completely inappropriate -- not least because of its association with the narrow-minded intolerant bigotry of gay-bashers. It's a distraction and much-too-readily mistaken, reflecting more on who says it than the subject intended.

Y'know?

I guess my stand-by terms for the likes of Prince and others of his ilk are 'scum' and 'monster'. Ultimately, ANY term, being a word, is going to be a pale approximation for the fact that they richly deserve to be despised and condemned. They are traitors to the ideals that America was founded on, and without which America is just a promise betrayed.

People like Prince are similiar in kind, only different from monsters like Pol Pot and Hitler in the somewhat lesser degree of the horrors they've caused, or condoned.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:32 pm
by 82_28
Fags know when they're fags. And they don't mind being called such in friendly company.

However, when you call posturing assholes who are "profiting" off the debauchery of Earth's inhabitants and yet call themselves "men". You got yourself a fag right there. Ever see Hitler? (He was as gay as a French Horn). It seems to me to be the one term that really gets to them. Parading their ability to kill, destroy, profit, mame, create sadness and still remain men? No way. They're fags. They are men that never were. Call them "demons", "scoundrels", "jackals" and see where that gets you.

There's a place in the sun
For anyone who has the will to chase one..AND I
I think I've found mine
Yes, I do believe I have found mine

So, close your eyes and think of someone you physically admire
And let me kiss you, let me kiss you

I've zig-zagged all over America and I cannot find a safety haven
Say, would you let me cry on your shoulder
I've heard that you'll try anything twice

Close your eyes and think of someone you physically admire
And let me kiss you, let me kiss you

But then you open your eyes and you see someone that you physically despise
But my heart is open, my heart is open to you.
--Morrissey "Let Me Kiss You"


http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627099388295671

(Don't know if that link will work for the Moz song)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:33 am
by vigilant
I was searching the terms "blackwater scahill" and came across this article.

This article presents a complex historical puzzle as to the historical roots of blackwater, and some intriguing modern day affiliations. The article pretty much drags all the worlds most notorious leaders of chaos and bloodshed into the picture such as The Pope, Jesuit, Hitler connections, Zionists, etc...

Can anyone speak to the veracity or lack of veracity for the historical roots this article presents? There are some interesting reader comments after the article. The article has a ton of links in it too.

Trying to put together exactly who is the head and tail of all these dogs has always been really interesting to me, but i'm never sure exactly which version to believe sometimes, due to the fact that these groups sometimes morph over time into something they were not when they were initially formed. Sometimes i'm never sure exactly where these groups merge and split.

For instance, supposedly the masons started out as the keepers of the wisdom and stood against kings and tyrants, but if that is true it appears they became what they fought...

Also a reader comment in this article claims that the Pope is the supreme leader of the world but I doubt that considering that we have had "Priest Gate" with all the pedophile stuff...

What was the true hierarchy, and what is it now? Every time I think I really know where these groups merge or split, something changes my mind somehow or causes me to doubt what I think I know....


http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/blackwater-knights-of-malta-in-iraq/

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:53 am
by Nordic
Scahill's website, just in case anyone wants it:

http://rebelreports.com/