Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders (continued)

[Jeff]

Continuing from here.

And please note:

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If these aren't observed moving forward, there will be accounts suspended.

[desertfae]

Well, in order to not derail the thread I've decided to post responses to attacks at my forum, on my own site.

[Percival]

Thanks Jeff!

[audioslave]

Too bad Kate Dixon turned out to be such a disinfo ass. Jeff's playing gatekeeper once again. He locks threads whenever the obvious losers are getting pounded on. The creepy Arcadia Ego is back in power. What a stupid joke, just like most of Jeff's internet history. Like when he voted racist in a poll and got banned by Democratic Underground. Or when he plays up that Larry King Washington Times hoax. He loves saying Bonachi or whoever won a million dollars, but he never explains that it was by default. The defendent never showed up. Or how he allows American Dream to go on and on as the ignorant troll he is. Maybe that's his sock puppet! You go f*** yourselves. I know I'm now banned. Who would want to hang around a disinformation website like this anyway. Satanic Ritual Abuse=Satanic Panic Jeff Wells=Internet Fake

[Percival]

Too bad Kate Dixon turned out to be such a disinfo ass. Jeff's playing gatekeeper once again. He locks threads whenever the obvious losers are getting pounded on. The creepy Arcadia Ego is back in power. What a stupid joke, just like most of Jeff's internet history. Like when he voted racist in a poll and got banned by Democratic Underground. Or when he plays up that Larry King Washington Times hoax. He loves saying Bonachi or whoever won a million dollars, but he never explains that it was by default. The defendent never showed up. Or how he allows American Dream to go on and on as the ignorant troll he is. Maybe that's his sock puppet! You go f*** yourselves. I know I'm now banned. Who would want to hang around a disinformation website like this anyway. Satanic Ritual Abuse=Satanic Panic Jeff Wells=Internet Fake

In any case lets continue the hughes discussion if possible, thats an important case with many implications.

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In any case lets continue the hughes discussion if possible, thats an important case with many implications.

Okay!

So far, no one has promoted anything about Hughes, except that before this ever happened, there was a website for his ministry and various comments about that, all favorable that I could see -- his helping prisoners, addicts, orphans, his confession and redemption, which are on the web.

Yes, they are. They are on the web. But you know what? When sleuthing around, you sometimes have to go beyond someone's official website, where you aren't very likely to find anything but favorable comments.

Nevertheless, point well-taken. I too feel that there's been too little promotion about what Hughes was up to "before this ever happened." For example, according to La Tribuna, his little mission's nine years of official support for the Hondura military is still so greatly appreciated that one of the main figures in that recent School-of-the-Americas-linked military coup d'etat that they had down there not long ago spoke of his work as if they were practically -- hmm, what's the phrase I'm looking for? -- brothers-in-arms just a week or so ago.

Here's an excerpt in distinctive Google translation, and here's a link to the original:

Christmas awakens dreams and illusions in all nations worldwide. It is a universal festival even for those who differ in religious beliefs because it is time joining the feelings and somehow make us sympathetic to those who have less.

In an act that raises the High Command of the Armed Forces, which was not lost this beautiful celebration of Christmas, and next to the Christian ministry of the Rev. Jimmy Hughes, they brought joy to the children of soldiers from different military units area

In this emotional meeting Christmas present was commander of the army, Gen. Miguel Angel Mejia Padgett, the defense minister, Adolfo Sevilla Lionel, the commander of the 110th Infantry Brigade, Colonel Alcides Flores Garcia, and the commanders of the structural units of Brigade.

The army commander said every time he came to Danli brings happy memories because during hard times the people who lived in the border area was responsible for mine action, just as God wanted it was in this area during Hurricane Mitch in support this department, so he is happy because it holds a special fondness for this department that the minister of Defense says it is the paradise of Honduras, but he says that after Amapala.

But today is not to delve into the memories, but to thank Jimmy Hughes ministry because God has put in her heart for nine years working for the military, so we have always been in coordination with this ministry to share each year in this month marking the birth of the Son of God to our children bring joy and a message of God's word, the family of our soldiers this year are covered with glory because God gave the honor to defend its democracy, dignity and sovereignty of our country, so today we are proud to be here with their wives and children.

As I'm sure you know from the newspapers, Ms. Dixon, both big cheeses mentioned in that story are indeed big cheeses who backed the coup. And one of them, Gen. Miguel Angel Mejia Padgett, not only makes heart-warming speeches as commander of the army now. He was also in charge right up until he made a show of resigning from his post in protest briefly right before one of his closest allies took over the government. You remember: When the hooded special and paramilitary forces broke into the legally elected President's home in the small hours of the morning, and violently took him to the airport in his underwear after taking away his cellphone?

Kind of like the '80s all over again, right? Also, it's a small thing. But may I remind you for the second time that in fact it isn't yet and may well never be a capital case? I'm fully confident that you know the law too well to slip up a third time. But just in case:

The state can choose to seek the death penalty in connection with that charge. But they don't have to. So unless and/or until they make that choice, it's not a capital case. They don't always try capital cases just because they can. Forgive me for telling you what you already know.

Thanks.

Thank you, c2w, for repeating Rachel's statement above. I did of course see it before but to tell you the truth, I wrote it off because it seemed so vague and unsubstantiated. In the U.S. legal system wouldn't they dismiss that as hearsay?

You're welcome. And thank you for your response.

Also: No, they wouldn't dismiss Rachel's statement as hearsay in the U.S. legal system. They'd allow it as testimony from a first-hand witness with pertinent information. However, they might dismiss my repetition of Rachel's statement as hearsay in the U.S. legal system. If Rachel was unwilling or unable to testify or something of that nature. Assuming that there was no documentation of it in writing or other proof of veracity, of course. Although in that case, as in this one, my testimony would be redundant and unnecessary.

My apologies for that. I didn't realize that so many posts had already preceded mine.

The main point of this post is that Hughes has evidently been working with the Honduran military for at least the last nine years. Which makes total sense, really.
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[ON EDIT: Corrected a typo.

And I guess I should emphasize: The reason that story makes total sense -- and also the reason I expect that anyone who looked hard would find further ties between Hughes and Honduran officials who pal around with the torture-and-kidnap crowd of a couple of decades ago -- is because, as I more or less said once before:

People don't spend their whole careers doing covert military and/or black ops for the U.S. government and then move to Honduras in the mid-'80s to reform.

I mean, are we serious about exposing the Octopus or not? Good. Then let's at least try to be a little more realistic, please.]

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Too bad Kate Dixon turned out to be such a disinfo ass. Jeff's playing gatekeeper once again. He locks threads whenever the obvious losers are getting pounded on. The creepy Arcadia Ego is back in power. What a stupid joke, just like most of Jeff's internet history. Like when he voted racist in a poll and got banned by Democratic Underground. Or when he plays up that Larry King Washington Times hoax. He loves saying Bonachi or whoever won a million dollars, but he never explains that it was by default. The defendent never showed up. Or how he allows American Dream to go on and on as the ignorant troll he is. Maybe that's his sock puppet! You go f*** yourselves. I know I'm now banned. Who would want to hang around a disinformation website like this anyway. Satanic Ritual Abuse=Satanic Panic Jeff Wells=Internet Fake

Do not speak ill of Jeff, eiAe, or A.D. again, under any username. It....um.... Well. It makes me come as close to wishing to fuck you up as I ever do for anyone or anything.

I know that's not as scary-sounding as "Or I will fuck you up." However, though I don't know why, it just makes me sound like as obvious a pussy as I really am when I go that route. I'm a lover, not etcetera.

PS -- That Reese Jones connection was kind of weak, btw.

[barracuda]

Are Kate Dixon and audioslave in some sort of unspoken competition to see who can write the most self-discrediting statements? If so, I feel Ms. Dixon is still in lead on points for her humorous self-satire here in which she happily accuses everyone on the forum except herself and Virginia to be shills for the Octopus. Wonderful stuff. Kate, your talent seems wasted on non-fiction. Stick to what you do best!

[Jeff]

I know I'm now banned.

Time for your hemlock again.

BTW,

Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:47:46 -0800
From: [You]
Subject: Re: how's this:
To: rigorousintuition@hotmail.com

I promise to never post on your forum or blog ever again.

There was no time lapse on the promise of legal action.

[Percival]

Are Kate Dixon and audioslave in some sort of unspoken competition to see who can write the most self-discrediting statements? If so, I feel Ms. Dixon is still in lead on points for her humorous self-satire here in which she happily accuses everyone on the forum except herself and Virginia to be shills for the Octopus. Wonderful stuff. Kate, your talent seems wasted on non-fiction. Stick to what you do best!

I love you, maaaan.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

It must be Old Friends Re-Union Week.

yay.

[Dr_Doogie]

People don't spend their whole careers doing covert military and/or black ops for the U.S. government and then move to Honduras in the mid-'80s to reform.

I think that you hit the nail right on the head. Hughes has a suspicious history, then "reforms" and moves to ground zero - Central America - of the CIA's activities in the 1980's to open a ministry. It is possible (and quite probable) that Hughes actually did do good helping addicts, etc. while also providing an outpost and intel for his black ops buddies. The two are not exclusive.

[barracuda]

Yeah, what better place to help addicts then at one of the crucial nexus points for CIA smuggling of cocaine in the 1980s.

[Percival]

It must be Old Friends Re-Union Week.

yay.

LOL sure looks that way dont it.



Was that our old buddy zundel?

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I forgot to include a link to one of the small touching details about one of the soldiers and gentlemen prominently mentioned in that article I quoted in my second to last post about the arrest of Jimmy Hughes, and its implications wrt exposing the Octopus.

Oh, come on. You remember: The one with the very moving words of praise and gratitude for his reverend ministrations that were so recently and very publicly spoken by Gen. Miguel Angel Mejia Padgett. Who's not only so criminally dull that he doesn't even post to RI by proxy, but who was also one of the hardcore original members of the junta that forcibly took control of the Honduran government back in June. As well as one of the top lieutenants and lackeys of two-time School-of-the-Americas graduate and power-behind-the-coup, Romeo Vasquez Velasquez.

Anyway. It should have read like this:

"In this emotional meeting Christmas present was commander of the army, Gen. Miguel Angel Mejia Padgett, the defense minister, Adolfo Sevilla Lionel, the commander of the 110th Infantry Brigade, Colonel Alcides Flores Garcia, and the commanders of the structural units of Brigade."

Sorry to be so tiresome and repetitive about this. But it's not like you see nothing but favorable comments from the Honduran military about every American pastor who's set up shop to do good works there in the last twenty or so years. I mean, for heaven's sake, sometimes the Honduran military hasn't even said anything about popular religious leaders working with the poor of their country at all. They've just gone straight to assassinating them.

So it's really quite a distinction that the Reverend James "Jimmy" George Hughes is so highly valued by them. And imo, at least, it only adds to his credentials as a good guy whose reputation is untainted by any really seriously suspect or dubious associations, like having once mistakenly accused of being part of an ARG, or maybe sock-puppetry, or being a citizen who successfully prompted the government to do its job in terms of arresting people that it knows were involved in gang-style executions.

You've got to draw the line somewhere, after all.
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I'd like to give a shout-out to nathan28. Thanks for suggesting randomized bolding of words to prevent text-skimming on whatever thread it was where you said that, dawg. Holla.