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The man is a truth teller.

Truth tellers get my respect.

Not people who agree with me.

I bow to all truth tellers.

Few that they are.

I'm gonna start calling him "Ron Balls!"

Hope he doesn't ride around in any convertibles any time soon .....

Good for Ron Paul. I may not be crazy about some of his politics, but I sincerely respect his chutzpah and his truth-telling on stuff like this.

We need to take out the CIA.”

CIA will be taking out Ron Paul soon...

Uncle $cam wrote:

We need to take out the CIA.”

CIA will be taking out Ron Paul soon...

They'll probably at the very least fuck with him.

You know, "someone" will hack his bank account on his birthday, wipe out his money, annoying things like that ....

Oh wait, that's what happened to me.

He'll get much worse.

Ron Paul kicks some ass again!
p-o-w-e-r-l-e-s-s-l-i-m-i-t-e-d-h-a-n-g-o-u-t

Doesn't it seem more likely that they'll just figure out someway to ruin him politically?

This does seem to be new ground for him, though, doesn't it. I wish there were video...

§ê¢rꆧ wrote:Doesn't it seem more likely that they'll just figure out someway to ruin him politically?

This does seem to be new ground for him, though, doesn't it. I wish there were video...

There's video at the link.

Holy Mother of God!

What is going on!?

Seemslikeadream, thanks for the update. I'm gonna have to go back to Alex Jones. You know Slad, you have consistently been a marvellous poster on here. It's folk like you that keep me here. I always enjoy and appreciate your posts you know? You are a most helpful contributor, so take care.

I can barely believe he said this;

Ron Paul wrote:The 1988 Libertarian Presidential candidate added that since its inception after World War II, the CIA has done more harm than good and they’re a government unto themselves, “They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA.”

Of course my first thought echoed yours unclescam.

He's getting old, the poor feller. I guess he figured he had little to lose.

God bless him.

The secret police running the ship. Who would have thought it?

Nordic wrote:

They'll probably at the very least fuck with him.

You know, "someone" will hack his bank account on his birthday, wipe out his money, annoying things like that ....

Oh wait, that's what happened to me.

He'll get much worse.

Geez, Nordic, that sounds simply awful. Care to get into it? Ie, Elaborate?? Presumably you were running against the grain? I'll understand if you'd rather not.

"they take out dictators"

Did he really mean that, I thought they installed them?

One other thought. There's been some funny things going on lately.

You know they seed conspiracy culture with all this right wing stuff for not one but many purposes.

Quite often one of my paranoid fears, this one not unspeakable so I can mention it, is that they are feeding the internet with divisive agitprop and populist right wing rhetoric for a reason. In some countries it almost seems like the time is ripe for someone to exploit it. Now that could be a concern, you know. The nazi's were big on that. There's a big foment going on under the surface. I am sometimes concerned as to what sort of a figure or personality might arise to take advantage of that.

Wouldn't that vast ocean of right wing flavoured conspiracy sites be very useful if you wanted to foster a populist nationalism? You see theres an inverse (obverse? reverse?) of what I like to call the Larouche Rule. That is, that any statement can be disproven if it can be found that Lyndon Larouche, cult leader and owner of a private intelligence network, has ever said anything similar. The principle is that dreadful people cannot tell the truth. Well, its a fake principle, but you get the idea. I mean, I'm quite dreadful, and I often tell the truth. The reverse is that people who tell the truth cannot be dreadful. Take Henry Makow. Dreadful. But Gloria Steinem may well have had connections to the you know who. I couldn't say. But you get people who urge you to discard the notion, rather than look into it for yourself, on the basis that Makow said it. Which on the face of it, seems reasonable. But its just a fake argument. Of course, if you found out Makow was right about Steinem, you may start to consider him less dreadful. Which would be the same error.

I worry that this is one of the purposes of the conspiracy sites. Feed them from beneath. Then get the mass media to notice, and start to report favourably on what they are saying, and you would have an enormous movement of confused, angry people, wouldn't you? The UK Daily Mail has been featuring conspiracy type material for a few years now. They did a surprisingly even handed piece on 911 for instance. They gain credibility when they mix in actual revelations of previous government perfidy. Such a mass would be ready for a strong, charismatic leader to overthrow the old order, wouldn't they?

Obviously not Ron Paul, who I actually think seems a rather nice man, on the whole. Yes, he probably was a bit racist once.

Somehow I don't think it will be Nick Griffin either.

Of course, I may have just gone right through and come out the other end of paranoid. Who knows? I apologise for my wild eyed speculation. I've been overdoing it a bit lately.

§ê¢rꆧ wrote:This does seem to be new ground for him, though, doesn't it.

Actually, it's not. It's old ground for him. He's been saying it for years.

People haven't been hearing it, though, 'cause they were all too willing to quickly filter his truths with "he's too (fill in a derogatory label of your choice)".


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics ... 10-12.html

(excerpted)

JUDY WOODRUFF: You'd do away with the CIA, I saw. Is that correct or not?

REP. RON PAUL: Well, not all of the functions, but essentially so. The CIA is what gets us into trouble. I mean, the CIA is what really started things in the Middle East, because the CIA went in and overthrew Mosaddeq in 1953. We put in the shah. The CIA murdered Diem, or participated in the overthrow of the government in Vietnam, which leads to trouble.

It's a secret government. Congress has no idea what the CIA is doing, because nobody knows, other than what the CIA is. It is one of the things that is not characteristic of a free society.

Nordic wrote:There's video at the link.

Whoops, I saw that after I posted. That's a video to save. Gods forbid anything happen to him, but if it does that's the video to point out...