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And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:24 am
by DoYouEverWonder
John Edwards Made Sex Tape, Abortion Plea, Aide Says

Jan. 28, 2010

Former John Edwards aide Andrew Young, who covered up the Democratic presidential candidate's affair, said when he cleaned up his house after his role in the cover up ended he found one more shocker.

"There was one tape that was marked 'special,'" Young told ABC News' Bob Woodruff in an exclusive interview. "It's a sex tape of Rielle and John Edwards made just a couple of months before the Iowa caucuses."

Though Young never saw the woman's face in the tape, he said she was "visibly pregnant" and was "wearing a bracelet" and a "thumb ring" typically worn by Rielle Hunter.

"It's her jewelry," Andrew Young's wife Cheri told ABC News, "It could be on another woman with the same jewelry."

Young gives his account of the sex scandal and the elaborate cover up for the Democratic presidential candidate in a new tell-all book entitled, "The Politician," which will be released Jan. 30.

He details how he and wife Cheri briefly returned to Raleigh, N.C. in July 2008 to clear out the house, where Hunter had briefly lived prior to their December 2007 escape from the media. Young claims they found a box Hunter had left behind, which included some videotapes, in a pile of trash.

"It [the tape] was cut and pulled ...out," Cheri Young told ABC News, "We... taped it back together and we played it."

Young, who had worked for Edwards since his 1998 senate win, said he was absolutely sure it was his boss in the tape.

"It's definitely him. You never see her face. But you see -- you clearly see his face for a long time. And I can't speak for the other body parts, but it's definitely his face," Young told ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626

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For a guy as media savey as Edwards, the first lesson is never, never, never film yourself naked. Naked and fooling around with your mistress goes beyond stupid. It tells the world that he is a man you wanted to get caught. Who wanted the world and his wife to see what he was doing. Maybe he can share a room with Tiger down in that sex rehab joint in MS.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:27 am
by Cordelia
I wonder if he really made the film. He's a psychopathic A.H. but he's not stupid.

(The article reads like it would have been ok if he was with a woman other than Rielle Hunter.)

Young comes across as a sleezebag too.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:48 am
by yathrib
Sleazebag of the decade, IMO. He's almost an SNL parody of sleazebagism.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:55 pm
by josey wales
The thing I don't 'get' is why he was taken down. He obviously was a 'chosen' boy a la his recieving a blessing at the Bliderberg meeting prior to the primaries. So the question is what happened? Was this simply a case of an internicene battle between the 'annointed' with a survival of the fitest spin? Or did it just make for good copy for the tabloids?

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:04 pm
by DoYouEverWonder
josey wales wrote:The thing I don't 'get' is why he was taken down. He obviously was a 'chosen' boy a la his recieving a blessing at the Bliderberg meeting prior to the primaries. So the question is what happened? Was this simply a case of an internicene battle between the 'annointed' with a survival of the fitest spin? Or did it just make for good copy for the tabloids?

His ego took him down.

Anyone who screws around on his dying wife, fathers a child, lies about all of it and then gets caught on video, doesn't need any help from the PTB.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:05 pm
by RocketMan
"It [the tape] was cut and pulled ...out," Cheri Young told ABC News, "We... taped it back together and we played it."


In defence of Edwards, there's enough rampant sleazebagism to go around...

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:11 pm
by Nordic
He always reminded me of this guy, and seemed about as sincere:

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I never understood the appeal. He seemed transparent to me, but maybe I'm wearing da right kinda shades or sumpin

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:27 pm
by justdrew
Nordic wrote:He always reminded me of this guy, and seemed about as sincere:

Image

I never understood the appeal. He seemed transparent to me, but maybe I'm wearing da right kinda shades or sumpin


I saw him as more of a threes company era jack ritter. Hanging out down at the regal beagle with larry (or whatever that char's name was).

the woman also deserves some scorn, she didn't have to knowingly screw a married man. (or did she?)

anyway, my guess would be this blew up when it did be cause it was determined by and/or apparent to The Controllers that edwards was not getting the nomination, so this point-of-control was no longer needed, so it was allowed to fall apart. Maybe they felt he might get some appointment and wanted to ensure that didn't happen, who knows, just maybe edwards really might have tried to help people in some way, just cause he's horny and dumb about it doesn't mean he wouldn't have tried to help the middle-and-lower-classes.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:10 pm
by DoYouEverWonder
The woman also deserves some scorn, she didn't have to knowingly screw a married man. (or did she?)


Yes, she knew and she received money for her video 'services' from the campaign. So there is a question whether or not campaign laws were violated.

However, the difference between the two is that Edwards was the one who made himself a public figure, by running for President. He already had a successful career as a lawyer. In this day and age, he knew his actions were political suicide. There's no excuse. But on top of that, when he got caught he lied to the public every time there was a new revelation. He would have been a lot better off if he had been more honest from the start. How would you like to be this baby and grow up to find out your Dad publicly denied you?

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:28 pm
by dbcooper41
The thing I don't 'get' is why he was taken down. He obviously was a 'chosen' boy a la his recieving a blessing at the Bliderberg meeting prior to the primaries


he was taken down because he had strong potential to ignite a true populist movement which would have interfered with the coronation of our dear leader.
much like huey long.
btw, anyone heard the story about roosevelt and kennedy out of the blue calling father coughlin to invite him over for a visit. iirc, when the good father stepped off the train he was approached for comment on the shooting of huey long.
i'll find the book i read that in this weekend. when i read it i immediately had the feeling that roosevelt and kennedy were behind the shooting.
long was becoming too much of a populist loose cannon. kinda like edwards.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:44 pm
by Nordic
C'mon, I don't think anybody "took down" Edwards but Edwards.

He got rich by suing people, then used his own money to get in the game.

The man was a transparent phony. Nothing but a bullshit artist. It caught up with him.

If you think he was "taken down", then how? Was Reille (or whatever her name was) an agent of some kind, someone set up to seduce him and get pregnant?

That's pretty far-fetched.

The guy thought with his dick and said dick produced a baby that he couldn't cover up. He was such a sleazebucket even his sleazebucket employee couldn't deal with it (and didn't want to be saddled with a fake paternity).

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:05 pm
by lupercal
Nordic wrote:If you think he was "taken down", then how? Was Reille (or whatever her name was) an agent of some kind, someone set up to seduce him and get pregnant?


I'd guess that's pretty close to the mark. I haven't looked into it much, as I was no fan of Edwards, but he had a big following of well-off supporters, the type who can get a Dem elected if he plays them right, so why WOULDN'T the spooks send a fetching videographer his way to get some paydirt in case he pulled it off? She wouldn't need to be agent. That's how they work. If they can't blackmail a pol through his pants they get him publicly loaded and splash it all over CNN for a week, or kill off members of his family, or go the suicide /ski / car/ plane accident route. It happens just about every other week.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:33 am
by Nordic
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:57 am
by lupercal
Sure, but what is a cigar? A product of considerable intention, not an accident. And that was Freud's whole idea: there are no accidents in the universe of the mind.

Now as to Edwards, sure, maybe he's just the sleazebag I always thought he was anyway, but he clearly isn't stupid. Weak yes, a backstabbing creep yes, but not at least not THIS stupid.

Also, the whole tape business is a little fishy. No faces, but the jewelry is hers? And exactly where and when was it discovered? In a box of trash marked "special"? Or cut up into pieces and taped back together by the former Edwards employees? The plot thickens quickly in the familiar way.

Anyway, have a look at this interesting DU post if you've got a minute:

"John Edward's Preggo Sex Video Tape..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... _id=279841

Re: And the sleezebag of the week award goes to - John Edwards

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:00 am
by 82_28
lupercal wrote:Sure, but what is a cigar? A product of considerable intention, not an accident. And that was Freud's whole idea: there are no accidents in the universe of the mind.

Now as to Edwards, sure, maybe he's just the sleazebag I always thought he was anyway, but he clearly isn't stupid. Weak yes, a backstabbing creep yes, but not at least not THIS stupid.

Also, the whole tape business is a little fishy. No faces, but the jewelry is hers? And exactly where and when was it discovered? In a box of trash marked "special"? Or cut up into pieces and taped back together by the former Edwards employees? The plot thickens quickly in the familiar way.

Anyway, have a look at this interesting DU post if you've got a minute:

"John Edward's Preggo Sex Video Tape..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... _id=279841


Yeah. Deffo on him not being that stupid. Craven, yes. Stupid like that? Hell no.