Progressive Independent shutting down

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Progressive Independent shutting down

Postby HamdenRice » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:53 am

Hope, Jeff, that this isn't seen as resurrecting an earlier thread that you locked because you didn't want to create the impression of a board war.

But I just thought it was interesting for a few reasons.

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dc ... _id=104555

Who is with us - interested in the site here, the discussions, where we go from here? What if we moved to a new base camp? What if we changed the direction and focus?

Check in here on this thread, or if you just like to lurk you can PM me and that is as far as it will go so you can remain anonymous.

"For" or "against" doesn't matter to me - just check in and let me know how you see things - comments, criticism, gripes, etc.

If no one is interested that will be good to know as well, and will make any coming changes easier.


And a little further down, the explanation -- they are losing the domain name and can't get it transferred from Tinoire because, and this is the weird part, she has completely disappeared, not just as a web based personality, but as a physical person.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/d ... pic_id=947

According to whosis progressiveindependent.com expires in a couple of weeks. Does anybody have the authority to renew it? Or can get Tinoire to do it.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: PROGRESSIVEINDEPENDENT.COM
Created on: 19-Feb-05
Expires on: 19-Feb-10
Last Updated on: 12-Oct-07

BTW, is anybody keeping a back-up of the database, in case something whacky happens to the domain or the hosting accounts?


Before I get to the weirdness, I just want to point out the potential unpleasantness presaged by the first guote -- namely, that the "National People's Supreme Revolutionary Council" is looking for a new collective forum to take over, so you might want to be on guard. Chlamor is already posting in that thread who, ideologically, will be allowed to participate and who won't be allowed to participate where ever the small locust swarm descends next.

But the bigger point is that I'm still puzzled by the strange facts that came up in the last thread about PI on the old Rigint board -- about Tinoire's background and connections. Bush is gone, and presumably so are his "internet warrior" operations, and PI is abandoned to a few lunatics and the den mother of the old PI simply disappears. I find it odd that PI so radically and drastically changed from a fairly diverse alternate forum to what it became in its last few months.
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Re: Progressive Independent shutting down

Postby Jeff » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:20 pm

HamdenRice wrote:I find it odd that PI so radically and drastically changed from a fairly diverse alternate forum to what it became in its last few months.


Maintaining a forum's reasonable health is hard work. I know it from the experience of my occasional neglect here. That doesn't mean a heavy hand is in order, but the nuances of board life demand attention and vigilance against disruption and subversion. For whatever reason, PI has been of diminishing concern to Tinoire for some time, and that's made it much easier for a few dedicated idealogues to hijack. Hope she's well.
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Re: Progressive Independent shutting down

Postby 23 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:24 pm

The folks at http://socialistindependent.org/board/i ... &board=1.0 were originally invited to PI by its owner, Tiniore, to transform it into an expanded version of SI. Without any consultation of the PI community beforehand.

I don't think that we need to fear Jeff extending a similar invitation here. He's too Tolstoyite to enact such an exclusive, authoritarian edict.

PI is experiencing the natural consequence of coercive propagation of homogeneous thought, is all.

It was destined to happen.
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Re: Progressive Independent shutting down

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:07 am

23 wrote:
It was destined to happen.

PI is experiencing the natural consequence of coercive propagation of homogeneous thought, is all.


oh no HR it was a deliberate take down, had nothing to with some homogeneous thought, that was just a guise.

btw they're posting at OldElmTree, take note


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Re: Progressive Independent shutting down

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:09 am

23 wrote:The folks at http://socialistindependent.org/board/i ... &board=1.0 were originally invited to PI by its owner, Tiniore, to transform it into an expanded version of SI. Without any consultation of the PI community beforehand.

I don't think that we need to fear Jeff extending a similar invitation here. He's too Tolstoyite to enact such an exclusive, authoritarian edict.

PI is experiencing the natural consequence of coercive propagation of homogeneous thought, is all.

It was destined to happen.


Since I have a unique POV on this whole thing, having been personally very involved in this whole mess and being one of the few people who had direct contact with Tin when this went down, I can can confirm that what '23' has posted is correct.

Tin was very involved in what's happened and if she was so burnt out, why did she become an admin at SI and was busy posting over there?

Come on folks something's not right with this picture. No matter what her background, I know a number of former military and spooks who are very liberal and oppose bushco, she was a very commited pro-palestinian activist. In the space of a few months she made a complete 360. Why would someone suddenly join the other side, while at the same time start making plans to leave the country? Sort of reminds me of Patty Hearst. Anyone who was in Tin's position was bound to become a target.

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The people who took over PI and are now shutting it down have accomplished their mission there. Can't have records of the Zionists war crimes now, can we?


I've saved some excerpts from this thread that I posted on PI back in July. At this time TA & I were both admins. Tin had been gone for over a month and TA decided it was time to start showing me his true colors. I sort of felt like the gates of hell had been opened that day.

Progressive Independent - July 23, 2009

This crews has been around a long time and they're main function is to shut down progressive discussion forums. They are everywhere and they go by numerous socks.

Now that they've finished the job at PI, they're now onto bigger and better things. Check out this current thread over on DU. They're all coming out of the woodwork.

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Since Jeff has managed to keep this problem off of RI for the most part, if anyone wants to know more from me about this, I now have my own forum at Beyond Politics & 9/11

Thank-you Jeff for all you do.
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