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Hope this is within Jeff's guidelines, but just have to say ...

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/D ... ou_gif.jpg

This has been posted at PI from time to time. They say it is Chlamor and that he has ambushed Paul Wolfowitz at a fish restaurant in DC after a demo during the Bush administration era. The story is quite bizarre, with chlamor kind of harassing Wolfie, then demanding a pic together, which Wolfie agreed to. No secret service. No body guards (if this is during the World Bank era).

We're not supposed to launch baseless accusations at each other or others about being "infiltrators" and such, so I hope you'll take this is not an accusation, but a datum. It's just a picture.

Combine that datum with the acknowledgement by Tinoire that she worked for military intelligence, supported Ron Paul and posts to RonaldReagan.com, and some of the petty but amusing accusations and counter accusations between PI and OET over OET being hosted on bandwith owned by a business owner who claims to be a radical working class member on PI, and all I'll say is that this is just one more area of post modern life where it's possible to mentally flip polarities, or flip negative image to positive image.

HamdenRice wrote:Hope this is within Jeff's guidelines, but just have to say ...

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/D ... ou_gif.jpg

This has been posted at PI from time to time. They say it is Chlamor and that he has ambushed Paul Wolfowitz at a fish restaurant in DC after a demo during the Bush administration era. The story is quite bizarre, with chlamor kind of harassing Wolfie, then demanding a pic together, which Wolfie agreed to. No secret service. No body guards (if this is during the World Bank era).

We're not supposed to launch baseless accusations at each other or others about being "infiltrators" and such, so I hope you'll take this is not an accusation, but a datum. It's just a picture.

Combine that datum with the acknowledgement by Tinoire that she worked for military intelligence, supported Ron Paul and posts to RonaldReagan.com, and some of the petty but amusing accusations and counter accusations between PI and OET over OET being hosted on bandwith owned by a business owner who claims to be a radical working class member on PI, and all I'll say is that this is just one more area of post modern life where it's possible to mentally flip polarities, or flip negative image to positive image.

Quite the scam, donchano?


started a progressive website, recruited a bunch of really great people from DU, the best of the best I must say (not sure how I ended up in such a distinguished crowd) and the shut it down taking all those voices with it, no worries Mr. Commies aka (anti-semite hunters) we're still here and even lurking in the shadows


The Ring Leader's new website (mikeberst, TA and other names he is calling himself on the web)
http://www.mikeberst.com/

seemslikeadream wrote:
Quite the scam, donchano?


started a progressive website, recruited a bunch of really great people from DU, the best of the best I must say (not sure how I ended up in such a distinguished crowd) and the shut it down taking all those voices with it, no worries Mr. Commies aka (anti-semite hunters) we're still here and even lurking in the shadows


The Ring Leader's new website (mikeberst, TA and other names he is calling himself on the web)
http://www.mikeberst.com/

Now I'm confused! Mike is Mike Berst, aka Two Americas -- but not chlamor, right?

Or are chlamor, TA, anarxos (sp?), blindswine, etc. all one person or interchangeable personas?

HamdenRice wrote:Hope this is within Jeff's guidelines,

seemslikeadream wrote:The Ring Leader's new website (mikeberst, TA and other names he is calling himself on the web)
http://www.mikeberst.com/

Let me get this straight - you guys are accusing Chlamor of being the world's greatest dulcimer master of college fight songs, and a possible Ron Paul supporter? 'Cause in that case, all bets are off. That right there is basically a violation of the laws of god, man and nature.

This is officially the weirdest thread I've seen in some time.

Barracuda -- Iirc, I think Tinoire is the Ron Paul supporter/RonaldReagan.com poster and self proclaimed military intelligence employee.

Chlamor is simply the Jefe Wolfowitz "mano a mano" "abrazo" guy.

I always thought the "Mike" that keeps coming up is Two Americas, not chlamor -- unless they are all interchangeable internet "personas".

HamdenRice wrote:

seemslikeadream wrote:
Quite the scam, donchano?


started a progressive website, recruited a bunch of really great people from DU, the best of the best I must say (not sure how I ended up in such a distinguished crowd) and the shut it down taking all those voices with it, no worries Mr. Commies aka (anti-semite hunters) we're still here and even lurking in the shadows


The Ring Leader's new website (mikeberst, TA and other names he is calling himself on the web)
http://www.mikeberst.com/

Now I'm confused! Mike is Mike Berst, aka Two Americas -- but not chlamor, right?

Or are chlamor, TA, anarxos (sp?), blindswine, etc. all one person or interchangeable personas?

Mike is Mike Berst, aka Two Americas -- but not chlamor, right?

Right.

chlamor was Orwellian Ghost.

but who is Hannah Bell?

For the sake of accuracy, HR, Tinoire worked and voted for Obama. I don't know any supporter of Dr. Paul who worked and/or voted for Obama.

I strongly doubt that she supported Dr. Paul. In fact, and when she invited the Stalinists to invade and occupy PI, she accompanied their arrival with strong criticism of Dr. Paul.

Tinoire was many things at different times. But I doubt that she ever was a supporter of Dr. Paul.

barracuda wrote:

HamdenRice wrote:Hope this is within Jeff's guidelines,

seemslikeadream wrote:The Ring Leader's new website (mikeberst, TA and other names he is calling himself on the web)
http://www.mikeberst.com/

Let me get this straight - you guys are accusing Chlamor of being the world's greatest dulcimer master of college fight songs, and a possible Ron Paul supporter? 'Cause in that case, all bets are off. That right there is basically a violation of the laws of god, man and nature.

This is officially the weirdest thread I've seen in some time.

No, TA is his own living breathing identity crisis.

Our world's greatest dulcimer player, master gardener, computer wiz was also a Bev Harris supporter, Wesley Clark supporter, Dennis Kucinich supporter, and finally a John Edwards supporter. He's also a gay military veteran fundie xian.

DoYouEverWonder wrote:No, TA is his own living breathing identity crisis.

Our world's greatest dulcimer player, master gardener, computer wiz was also a Bev Harris supporter, Wesley Clark supporter, Dennis Kucinich supporter, and finally a John Edwards supporter. He's also a gay military veteran fundie xian.

Bingo.

I concluded, a long time ago, that they are purveyors of masks.

And depending on which mask gives them the benefit that they desire, they will don that mask.

Nothing wrong with that, if you just see what floats their boat.

Which are masks.

sorry I didn't mean to confuse anyone

seemslikeadream wrote:sorry I didn't mean to confuse anyone

that's ok slad, to further confuse the issue there are apparently TWO Pauls....

Okay, this may actually be off topic, but I have to say one of the things that bothers me about this country more than anything else is the fact that someone like Paul Wolfowitz can just walk around with no security, no bodyguards, no bulletproof glass, can just go to restaurants and hang out with the non-war-criminal crowd, and yet most people in this country actually believe that we're constantly being threatened by "sleeper cells" and shit like that, that there are terrorists under every rock just waiting for the right moment to kill us all.

Apparently, if Paul Wolfowitz can just walk around without any regard to his personal safety, there are absolutely NO terrorists, or even terrorists sympathizers, or even anyone who is grossly offended by the man's despicable actions.

If the biggest thing Wolfowitz has to worry about is a bohemian hippie-looking dude accosting him for a picture, then, well, they really have completely subdued this country, and we are all forever and deeply fucked beyond all reason.

I'm a non-violent sort, but if I ever get that close to that piece of shit he will be spitting Chiclets before he leaves the room. Maybe he'll be with Feith and Perle for the trifecta.

Nordic wrote:Okay, this may actually be off topic, but I have to say one of the things that bothers me about this country more than anything else is the fact that someone like Paul Wolfowitz can just walk around with no security, no bodyguards, no bulletproof glass, can just go to restaurants and hang out with the non-war-criminal crowd, and yet most people in this country actually believe that we're constantly being threatened by "sleeper cells" and shit like that, that there are terrorists under every rock just waiting for the right moment to kill us all.

Apparently, if Paul Wolfowitz can just walk around without any regard to his personal safety, there are absolutely NO terrorists, or even terrorists sympathizers, or even anyone who is grossly offended by the man's despicable actions.

If the biggest thing Wolfowitz has to worry about is a bohemian hippie-looking dude accosting him for a picture, then, well, they really have completely subdued this country, and we are all forever and deeply fucked beyond all reason.

The "War On Terror" is a lie and always was a lie.