Shots Still Reverberate For Survivors Of Kent State

[elfismiles]

Shots Still Reverberate For Survivors Of Kent State
by Noah Adams

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =126423778

[yathrib]

Don't forget to read about Jackson State on the same page.

As the article suggests, many people were unsympathetic about Kent State at the time. But in reality, Americans overwhelmingly rejoiced about it. Just saying.

[justdrew]

I tend to feel that murderers should be treated by the Law they claim to believe in.

“And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe”

Eight of the guardsmen were indicted by a grand jury. The guardsmen claimed to have fired in self-defense, a claim which was generally accepted by the criminal justice system. In 1974 U.S. District Judge Frank Battisti dismissed charges against all eight on the basis that the prosecution's case was too weak to warrant a trial.[7]

In May 2007, Alan Canfora, one of the injured protestors, demanded that the case be reopened, having found an audiotape in a Yale University government archive allegedly recording an order to fire ("Right here! Get Set! Point! Fire!") just before the 13 second volley of shots.[30]

all 8 should receive community justice. Late one night.

it'll never happen, the EVIL tend to die quietly in their sleep of old age.

[Wombaticus Rex]

How did I never notice her shirt said "SLAVE" until just now?

[elfismiles]

How did I never notice her shirt said "SLAVE" until just now?

DITTO ... noticed that earlier but didn't say anything ... was almost thinking it had been doctored.

[norton ash]

Jeebus, I'm saying doctored... I've seen that photo many times for all these 40 years and I never saw SLAVE.

[justdrew]

It's dark on dark, usually it's washed out in reproduction. If John Filo would make a high-res scan available it would be nice. If you zoom in enough on most versions you can make it out.

Here's an example where you can barely see the detail in her shirt:

John Filo's iconic Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph of Mary Ann Vecchio, a fourteen-year-old runaway, kneeling over the body of Jeffrey Miller after he was shot dead by the Ohio National Guard.

[elfismiles]

She was FOURTEEN in that pic ?!?

Kent-State-SLAVE.JPG

It's dark on dark, usually it's washed out in reproduction. If John Filo would make a high-res scan available it would be nice. If you zoom in enough on most versions you can make it out.

Here's an example where you can barely see the detail in her shirt:

John Filo's iconic Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph of Mary Ann Vecchio, a fourteen-year-old runaway, kneeling over the body of Jeffrey Miller after he was shot dead by the Ohio National Guard.

[IanEye]

the photo has been doctored in the past.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030813212509/http://www.cris.com/~Mppa/ethics.html

[elfismiles]

the photo has been doctored in the past.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030813212509/http://www.cris.com/~Mppa/ethics.html

Nice find IanEye! Thanks.

And of course ... Noone should ever suspect the illustrious TIME magazine of shenanigans related to image manipulation.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Greg RAMBO was the biggest whistleblower against the National Guard at Kent State throughout the 70s.

That's why we got the 1972 CIA-novel where "Rambo" kills lots of National Guardsmen and then the CIA-Hollywood version in the early 80s when the POW-MIA cover-up was wearing thin.

[justdrew]

Devo's Jerry Casale on the Kent State Massacre, May 4, 1970

...

VR: Going back to your early days. You were present at the Kent State shootings in 1970. How did that day affect you?

JC: Whatever I would say would probably not at all touch upon the significance or gravity of the situation at this point of time -- it would probably sound trite or glib. All I can tell you is that it completely and utterly changed my life. I was a white hippie boy and then I saw exit wounds from M1 rifles out of the backs of two people I knew. Two of the four people who were killed, Jeffrey Miller and Allison Krause, were my friends. We were all running our asses off from these motherfuckers. It was total, utter bullshit. Live ammunition and gasmasks - none of us knew, none of us could have imagined... They shot into a crowd that was running away from them! I stopped being a hippie and I started to develop the idea of devolution. I got real, real pissed off.

VR: Does Neil young's "Ohio" strike close to your heart?

JC: Of course. It was strange that the first person that we met, as Devo emerged, was Neil Young. He asked us to be in his movie, The Human Highway. It was so strange - San Francisco in 1977. Talk about life being karmic, small and cyclical - it's absolutely true. In fact I just got a call from a person organizing a 30th Anniversary commemoration. Noam Chomsky will be there and I may go talk there if I can get away. I still remember it so crystal clear, like a dream you will never forget . . . or a nightmare. I still remember every moment. It kind of went in slow motion like a car accident.

VR: You said that the Kent State shooting sort of served as a catalyst for your theory of Devolution, which spawned Devo--

JC: Absolutely. Until then I was a hippie. I thought that the world is essentially good. If people were evil, there was justice... and that the law mattered. All of those silly naïve things. I saw the depths of the horrors and lies and the evil. The paper that evening, the Akron Beacon Journal, said that students were running around armed and that officers had been hurt. So deputy sheriffs went out and deputized citizens. They drove around with shotguns and there was martial law for ten days. 7 PM curfew. It was open season on the students. We lived in fear. Helicopters surrounding the city with hourly rotating runs out to the West Side and back downtown. All first amendment rights are suspended at the instant the governor gives the order. All of the class-action suits by the parents of the slain students were all dismissed out of court, because once the governor announced martial law, they had no right to assemble.

[operator kos]

WTF...

FBI now claims students shot first at Kent State

[justdrew]

WTF...

FBI now claims students shot first at Kent State

oh bullshit

It also turned out that the FBI had its own informant and agent-provocateur roaming the crowd, a part-time Kent State student named Terry Norman, who had a camera. Mr. Norman also was armed with a snub-nosed revolver that FBI ballistics tests, first declassified in 1977, concluded had indeed been discharged on that day.

nothing from the FBI is remotely believable. they're staffed by psycho's and confirmed lairs. Especially back then.

[pepsified thinker]

oddly, on the Vermont Review website ( http://vermontreview.tripod.com/Interviews/devo.htm ) there's a type-o: JC says

"I sopped being a hippie and I started to develop the idea of devolution." --no 't' in what should have been 'stopped'.

Don't know that it matters, but happened to notice it.