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Wombaticus Rex wrote:
On a very related note, I only engage with Christians who engage with me and I find confrontational Athiests distasteful. There's no reason to attack Christians, they're 0% more or less deluded than the rest of us. I worship a fucking elephant, you know? Being able to state your case calmly is critical for style points, and when your deeds are reviewed upon entrance to the Afterlife, brothers and sisters, your style points are all that will save you.
The Consul wrote:
If anyone holds out any hope at all for the survival of democracy, then Xtianity must be attacked, at least hard enough to drive it far enough out of politics that it no longer credibly threatens to establish a totalitarian theocratic state in which questioning capitalism would be the same as peeing on the cross.
Belligerent Savant wrote:
Right, but it's not the followers that need be "attacked", it's those that are manipulating/conditioning the 'system', and by extension the masses within said system, to foster such a political climate to begin with, for a variety of reasons.
Religion and Politics are currently mingling [and as such, creating various divisions among the citizenry] for a variety of reasons, and at the highest levels it has little/nothing to do with the merits of Christianity, or whatever politics are currently in place for that matter....
The Consul wrote:
I know some very rational, wonderful, competent and intelligent people who believe that the world was created in six days.
Belligerent Savant wrote:The Consul wrote:
I know some very rational, wonderful, competent and intelligent people who believe that the world was created in six days.
Indeed... though who are we to say definitively that they are wrong? Time is ultimately illusory anyway, and relative. A being on a planet several million light years away looking through a telescope that could somehow see details of the surface of the earth would be looking at a snaphot of the earth from millions of years years ago [perhaps catch a brontosaurus chewing on some vegetation].
Perhaps 1 day = 1 Billion years.
Luther Blissett wrote:Belligerent Savant wrote:The Consul wrote:
I know some very rational, wonderful, competent and intelligent people who believe that the world was created in six days.
Indeed... though who are we to say definitively that they are wrong? Time is ultimately illusory anyway, and relative. A being on a planet several million light years away looking through a telescope that could somehow see details of the surface of the earth would be looking at a snaphot of the earth from millions of years years ago [perhaps catch a brontosaurus chewing on some vegetation].
Perhaps 1 day = 1 Billion years.
Said being could take ten steps forward and look millennia into that planet's future, and twenty steps back and look millennia into that planet's past (depending on distance).
JackRiddler wrote:.
No surprise to me. When you're surrounded by this stuff and decide to go against it (and the mere act of not accepting it is already considered a high provocation among many), then you have an incentive to learn about it. I'm the only person I know in person who has read the Bible twice cover to cover (allowing that I skimmed over the proverbs and psalms). Though I've forgotten most of it again.
Belligerent Savant wrote:But going back to the OP, there are a number of factors that may contribute to the relative ignorance of many "believers", but FEAR seems to be at the root. FEAR to challenge one's own beliefs, to question the nature of one's own understanding of reality...
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