Bush thought 9/11 plane had been shot down on his orders

[seemslikeadream]

George Bush thought 9/11 plane had been shot down on his orders
Memoirs reveal former US president gave order to shoot down any hijacked planes before United Airlines flight 93 crashed

George Bush initially thought United Airlines flight 93 had been shot down in Pennsylvania. Photograph: Jason Reed/Reuters
George Bush initially believed the only plane not to reach its intended target during the 11 September attacks had been shot down on his orders, according to leaks from the former president's memoir of his two terms in office.

Bush reveals that he gave the order for any further suspected hijacked planes to be shot down after the first aircraft were flown into the World Trade Centre in New York during the 2001 terror attacks.

He at first thought the crash of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania had resulted from this instruction, although it later emerged that passengers had stormed the cockpit as hijackers flew the plane towards the Capitol building in Washington.

The memoir, Decision Points, is due to be published on 9 November, in the aftermath of the US midterm elections, and Bush is already lined up for interviews on the Oprah Winfrey and NBC Today shows.

The Drudge Report website says the very personal book opens with the line: "It was a simple question: 'Can you remember the last day you didn't have a drink?'" as Bush deals with the well-known issue of his alcohol consumption.

His drinking has previously been said to have come to an end when he woke up with a hangover following his 40th birthday celebrations.

In a chapter about stem cell research, he describes receiving a letter from Nancy Reagan detailing a "wrenching family journey", but says: "I did feel a responsibility to voice my pro-life convictions and lead the country toward what Pope John Paul II called a culture of life."

Bush goes on to describes an emotional July 2001 meeting with the Pope, who had Parkinson's disease, at the pontiff's summer residence.

The Pope reportedly recognised the promise of science but implored Bush to support life in all its forms.

At the pontiff's funeral in 2005, Bush – after a reminder from his wife, Laura, that it was a time to "pray for miracles" – said a prayer for the ABC news anchor Peter Jennings, who had cancer.

The book is said to stay clear of criticising Barack Obama, and a source told the Drudge Report: "You will find the president strong, loving life, and ultimately at peace with the decisions he made."

[Luther Blissett]

He thought that's what happened because that's what happened. So he was right about something for once.

[psynapz]

Rummy thought so too.

[nathan28]

Weakest limited hang-out OF ALL TIME.

[barracuda]

Tracing this out, at first it seems like a contrary indicator, i.e. whatever Bush thought might have happened, couldn't, by definition, have happened at all, per the widely known axiom that Bush doesn't know what the fuck is ever really going on. But then, next, you have to factor in that he's compulsively lying 99% of the time, in which case the plane really must have been shot down. On top of that is the certainty that whoever wrote the the book was anyone but Bush, so all bets are off. The only thing I'm sure about here is that nothing remotely like this happened at all on the day in question.

[JackRiddler]

Suspicion: I expect he and others in that game are obsessed with whether details of the day's lies have gone over or not. They'll bring up stuff compulsively, furtively, as nonsequiturs, long after everyone's stopped thinking about given details. (Shot down the plane? Very silly. But see, I thought that too, but it wasn't so. But now you don't think it, right? Right?)

[Alfred Joe's Boy]

I don't know how to post a video, but if you click on this link "Lying Points" Puppet Talk, there's a video of the newspeople who were on the scene giving testimonials before the Feds moved in.

[seemslikeadream]

I don't know how to post a video, but if you click on this link "Lying Points" Puppet Talk, there's a video of the newspeople who were on the scene giving testimonials before the Feds moved in.

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[Alfred Joe's Boy]

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Thank you. And thanks for posting the video.

[Simulist]

Bush thought 9/11 plane had been shot down on his orders

The credibility of this story is tainted by the first two words of its title.

[thatsmystory]

There is something strange about the chain of command issue. A big deal has been made about Bush's presumed failure to give a shoot down order. The implication being that Cheney issued an order that he wasn't empowered to make. What is the point of this cover up? Especially considering that according to the official account no planes were shot down. Even if Flight 93 was shot down and Cheney issued the order what is the official concern? Since when did the Bush crowd give a shit about following the rule of law? I would guess there was concern that Bush might be (further) exposed as a front man which would not look good for the leader of the War on Terror.

[AlicetheKurious]

Thanks, Alfred Joe's Boy, for the video. Very compelling.

[tazmic]

Compelled where?

[JackRiddler]

Compelled where?

You'd think that was case closed, but remember, it's only empirical, and you can't trust the empire.*

The thing is, the clip of day-of-9/11 coverage from Pennsylvania says (and partly shows) something important: debris scattered over four miles, which doesn't happen from the crash of a plane still in one piece. And rather than leave it for the viewer to surmise the obvious, whoever compiled it adds the no-Boeing disinfo at the end. Another mission accomplished for Phil Jayhan, Loose Change and the no-planes operators.



( * joke so lame I probably have to label it as such.)

[tazmic]

Okay thanks, that clarifies it a bit for me. I wasn't up to date as to the status of this 'issue', and perhaps shouldn't have busted in. I remember the original footage, and I'd always assumed it was shot down. And really what terrorfried commander wouldn't have shot it down under the circumstances?

"debris scattered over four miles, which doesn't happen from the crash of a plane still in one piece"

Although, a plane would have to be blow'd up real good not to leave large debris. And I'd guess a destroyed plane would lose its flight speed quickly and not hit the ground over terminal velocity in a way that could atomise it. (A four mile debris field would suggest the minimum explosion height, from which you could determine total atmospheric deceleration and therefore a maximum impact speed... Anyone want to do the math?)

Either way, it doesn't look good for the official story, but we knew that already.