rigorousintuition.ca

http://areyoutargeted.com/

found it as a sponsor of cryptogon

feel its suss

any input

thanx

"suss" = ??

as in dodgy....yknow?



liek its gubbermint?

I suppose it wants one to enter their full name, birth date, home address and SSN to check. I feel sorry for anyone that falls for that stuff.

justdrew wrote:I suppose it wants one to enter their full name, birth date, home address and SSN to check.

You suppose. Did you verify this supposition? Does "it" want one to "enter their full name, birth date, home address, and SSN to check"? What page does "it" ask for this information on? Could you share a link to that page with the group?

I feel sorry for anyone that falls for that stuff.

What do you mean by "that stuff"? Would you be referring to the entering of the "full name, birth date, home address, and SSN to check"?

suss...
as in dodgy....yknow?

liek its gubbermint?

Anybody who's targeted in the way my website describes is being managed by a government agency, 24/7. All the TI's are being fed their propaganda. The only question is whether a TI chooses to believe it.

is that your site Mr. psyops?

Target acquired, it seems...

jeremypsyops wrote:

justdrew wrote:I suppose it wants one to enter their full name, birth date, home address and SSN to check.

You suppose. Did you verify this supposition? Does "it" want one to "enter their full name, birth date, home address, and SSN to check"? What page does "it" ask for this information on? Could you share a link to that page with the group?

I feel sorry for anyone that falls for that stuff.

What do you mean by "that stuff"? Would you be referring to the entering of the "full name, birth date, home address, and SSN to check"?

suss...
as in dodgy....yknow?

liek its gubbermint?

Anybody who's targeted in the way my website describes is being managed by a government agency, 24/7. All the TI's are being fed their propaganda. The only question is whether a TI chooses to believe it.

ok, ok...

I just figured it was a phishing site due to the way the question was initially asked in the OP.

now I see it looks like it's not that. Sorry for casting ungrounded aspersions J.

It's a hard area to talk about but does bear some investigation.

What about establishing a online photo database of individuals doing the harassment?

justdrew wrote:now I see it looks like it's not that. Sorry for casting ungrounded aspersions J.

No problem...

It's a hard area to talk about but does bear some investigation.

What about establishing a online photo database of individuals doing the harassment?

I think, and quite a few other TI's think, that this is a futile endeavor because of the nature of how the individuals are induced to harass the target. There have been some fantastical explanations invented (and I emphasize: invented) to explain who all these people are, what motivates them, and why nobody has blown "the secret".

Basically, my argument is that what most targets are going through is high tech stalking/harassment by proxy. A very small number of stalkers, or even one stalker, is moving the target into place to witness significant episodes, or moving others around like pieces on a chessboard, using mind control technology.

http://areyoutargeted.com/2010/10/total ... d-control/

There is a highly deceptive, multi-year strategy used to get targets to believe that large numbers of people are going after them. I call it "the program".

http://areyoutargeted.com/2010/08/the-p ... explained/

Arguably the most important stage of the program is an extreme harassment episode:

http://areyoutargeted.com/2010/09/extre ... -episodes/

It bypasses the target's conscious mind and alters his amygdala (the part of the brain responsible for fear). The memories formed during an extreme harassment episode are long-lasting and life-altering.

I could go on for a few hours, but basically, if you get nothing else, what I want to emphasize is this:

* These guys aren't mentally ill - most of them, anyway. They may have misconceptions about the nature of what's coming after them, but that's understandable. The ultimate explanation is pretty hard to believe. The mind control technology explanation is the most economical one, but most targets won't believe it until it's been made obvious to them.

* What makes it all work is two things. Surveillance abuse, including mind reading, and a mind control infrastructure. Both of these things are apparently usable against anyone at will. They are ten steps ahead of you guys.

If there is "a very small number of stalkers," doesn't that actually make ID more important and valuable than ever?

If I'm getting you right then, you're suggesting some/many of the "thugs on the street" so to speak, are just people recruited to act on others behalf and given some cock and bull story about the person they're told to target, like "oh they're a Russian spy" or some such thing.

wombat - if the above is the MO, spotting the controllers would be rare.

J. - What you think about the case of James Tilly Matthews?

justdrew wrote:If I'm getting you right then, you're suggesting some/many of the "thugs on the street" so to speak, are just people recruited to act on others behalf and given some cock and bull story about the person they're told to target, like "oh they're a Russian spy" or some such thing.

Getting closer - I'm saying the 'street thugs' (most of them) don't even know what they're doing or who the target is. Harassers can be created out of thin air using mind control technology. It's as if there's a television show being staged for the target to watch. Where-ever he turns his attention, someone can be made to act out. (Pay attention to crowd diagram #3)

http://areyoutargeted.com/orientation/t ... -big-show/

wombat - if the above is the MO, spotting the controllers would be rare.

J. - What you think about the case of James Tilly Matthews?

One might wonder how accounts of James Tilly Matthews' reports have been distorted. I notice, for example, that most of the references in the Wikipedia page covering Matthews are from the late 20th or early 21st century. Speculating about the real disposition of someone long dead is not likely to be productive, and may even play into the hands of people who wish to keep modern-day programs covered up.

Consider someone who's reported similar experiences and is still living - John Forbes Nash. The movie account of his experiences greatly exaggerated Nash's alleged mental illness. For example, the movie portrayed him as having visual hallucinations and made it seem that he imagined his college room mate. John Nash has said he only got auditory disturbances. This happens to fit the timeline of known mind control technologies, by the way - read up on the microwave auditory effect, discovered in the 1940's.

Read what Nash has said about his experiences, and then re-watch the movie - it's a beautiful smear piece. This makes me think that Nash is Target Zero, or very close to it, and he's been used to discredit other targets.

Jeremy, I've been reading your website tonight with much interest, and I have a question.

I'll preface my question with a statement: It seems to me that our culture (and various entities within it) is more than sick-enough to target certain individuals in precisely the ways your website is describing. But what of people who are, in fact, mentally disturbed, and suppose — incorrectly — that they are targets of an organized stalking campaign?

On the one hand, it seems wrong to me to play into a mentally disturbed person's actual delusions; on the other hand, it seems similarly wrong to me to treat a bona fide targeted individual as if s/he were mentally disturbed.

Can you offer some guidance on this question?

Simulist wrote:Jeremy, I've been reading your website tonight with much interest, and I have a question.

I'll preface my question with a statement: It seems to me that our culture (and various entities within it) is more than sick-enough to target certain individuals in many of the ways your website is describing. But what of people who are, in fact, mentally disturbed and suppose — incorrectly — that they are targets of an organized stalking campaign?

On the one hand, it seems wrong to me to play into a mentally disturbed person's actual delusions; on the other hand, it seems similarly wrong to me to treat a bona fide targeted individual as if s/he were mentally disturbed.

Can you offer some guidance on this question?

In a sense, the bar is lower for my site, because I'm trying to show targets of this treatment how to deal with the situation. So it doesn't matter (from my perspective) whether the reader is targeted or mentally ill; all that matters is whether the advice helps.

When you start investigating the question of whether someone is targeted, or merely deluded about being targeted, you're getting into a gray area. Because it's perfectly clear to me that many targeted individuals, while obviously targeted, also harbor delusional belief systems about who is after them or how they're doing it.

In other words: you can be mentally healthy, be absolutely correct in your perception that you're targeted, yet also be delusional.

Now, lots of mentally healthy people have delusional belief systems. (Remember the magical thinking that fueled the housing bubble in the US, for example?) But their delusions are coddled by the mainstream media because those delusions make money for powerful people.

It's not unusual to harbor delusional belief systems. In this society, it might even be that the majority of citizens are delusional.

When you have beliefs that do not help powerful people, that's when you no longer get coddled. If you are persecuted on behalf of some of those powerful people, it suits them to label you as mentally ill. (Read up on Political psychiatry.) Since it is typical for mentally ill people to have delusions, and since many TI's are tricked into adopting or reporting delusional belief systems, the audience makes the desired inductive leap - that TI's are mentally ill.

It's hard to climb out of this trap, because there is only one correct explanation for what's happening to a given targeted individual, but many incorrect ones, and it's the path of least resistance to label those incorrect explanations as delusions. It's also hard to close in on the correct explanation because the target's harassers/handlers are watching what he's up to, and provide him with misleading feedback.

Then there are real mentally ill people, and I'm sorry to say that a few of them have stumbled across my web site or into the conference calls. When I interview mentally ill people, which has happened, I get stories that make no sense at all.

When I interview TI's, their stories fall apart in a particular way that shows me they've been hoodwinked by the same people who hoodwinked me, using the same techniques. ("This person said this thing, two people were standing across the street and talking and glancing at me, two cars drove slowly by my house, and then the next morning I found trash was left on my doormat... and that's how I know.")

When you question a TI about the experiences he's having, you'll encounter reticence, because part of the surveillance/harassment strategy is to refer to highly embarrassing incidents in his life, often in full public view. You'll also see fantastical explanations for why he can't catch the people responsible, and those explanations border on delusional or are fully delusional, because he doesn't know about psychological operations or mind control technology.

A schizophrenic person will "pass" (in actuality, fail) the hollow-mask illusion test:

http://areyoutargeted.com/2010/11/if-yo ... zophrenic/

By the way, I failed it, and several grateful readers wrote in to say they failed it.

It is also common for targets who go to mental health professionals to be labeled with SAD (schizoaffective disorder), which is a subjective decision based on the observation that the target is reporting things that the interviewer doesn't understand, and also seems to be upset about them. They don't get a diagnosis of schizophrenia because that could be objectively disproven later, and the psychiatrist would get sued. But SAD is "just as good" as schizophrenia in terms of negative PR.

This is longer than I had thought it would be, but I hope it helps guide your thinking on the dividing lines between mental illness, delusional thinking, and being targeted.

Thank you, Jeremy. Your reply is well-thought-out, helpful, and notably insightful in my opinion.

jeremypsyops wrote:It's not unusual to harbor delusional belief systems. In this society, it might even be that the majority of citizens are delusional.

I agree with your assessment here without reservation.