Giffords shooting

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Giffords shooting

Postby DrVolin » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:00 pm

Very few details as of yet. Congresswoman shot along with a bunch of other people at a political event. Married to an active duty astronaut, Committee on Armed Services, Committee on Foreign Affairs, Committee on Science and Technology, a backer of the so-called Strategic Renewable Energy Reserve. Plenty of suspects so far. But the proximity to the Wheeler killing, in view of her role with the Armed Services, certainly makes this interesting.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:01 pm

It raises serious questions, like was the gunman watching a lot of Fox News or was he watching a lot of Fox News?
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:02 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:It raises serious questions, like was the gunman watching a lot of Fox News or was he watching a lot of Fox News?



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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby dqueue » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:03 pm

Here, NPR reports she has died. Oh, my.

Deepest regards and regrets to her family.

On edit: NPR now confirms she's alive with a positive prognosis. How quick the rumor mill makes it to broadcast radio! Sorry for sharing incorrect data!
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Nordic » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:11 pm

Somewhere, millions of Fox News viewers are cheering.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DrVolin » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:11 pm

Wow. Prelim reports of 6 dead including the congresswoman. Much human suffering.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DrVolin » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:13 pm

Nordic wrote:Somewhere, millions of Fox News viewers are cheering.


Don't be too quick to blame the viewers for the sins of the owners and programers.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:20 pm

(CNN) -- At least 12 people were shot at a Tucson grocery store on Saturday, and U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was among them, a Democratic party source told CNN.

Giffords, 40, was holding a constituent meeting at the grocery store when the shooting occurred, according to a schedule posted on her website.

CNN could not confirm conditions for Giffords or any of the others wounded, but the Tuscon Citizen newspaper was reporting that Giffords was shot in the head.

The Democratic source described the situation as "pretty serious,"

The shooting occurred at a Safeway shortly after 10 a.m. MST, according to sheriff's spokesman Deputy Jason Ogan.

At least two victims with gunshot wounds were transported at Northwest Medical Center, according to spokesman Richard Parker.

"They've been coming in the last 10 minutes. I'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.

Ogan said he did not have conditions on any of the wounded and said the motive for the shooting is unclear.

"We're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.

An employee of a nearby business, Jason Pekau, told CNN that he heard "15 to 20 gunshots."

Giffords, a Democrat, was first elected in 2006. She has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.


Trained killer? Military? Or just spraying bullets?

This is bad. However, I do note they aren't interrupting the boring ass US Army All-American Bowl on NBC as of now.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DrVolin » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:27 pm

82_28 wrote:Trained killer? Military? Or just spraying bullets?


It seems she was shot in the head, point blank. Could be spraying.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:35 pm

They say they have one shooter. White male clean shaved.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:36 pm

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From a recent post (now reported to have been scrubbed) on Palin's website.

Sarah Palin's Rifle Scope Map marking Giffords
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:38 pm

The event was very informal: Gifford had set up a table outside the Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman, who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford in the head first, "point blank". According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor, Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.

After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a few seconds, firing 20-30 rounds and hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than 10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead. When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee, but a member of Gifford's staff tackled him. Rayle helped hold the gunman down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-to-20 minutes later. The EMS came about 30 minutes later. Rayle said he was "stunned" by how long it took medical help to arrive.

The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was "not particularly well-dressed"; he didn't look like a businessman, but more of a "fringe character," Rayle said. The sheriff's department arrived, arrested the gunman and cordoned off the parking lot.

CNN is reporting that at least 12 were wounded.

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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby sunny » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:40 pm

Uh oh. Tea baggers done lost their shit completely? Did he shoot the others 'indiscriminately' to take attention away from the fact that Gifford was the target?
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:45 pm

sunny wrote:Uh oh. Tea baggers done lost their shit completely? Did he shoot the others 'indiscriminately' to take attention away from the fact that Gifford was the target?

He's probably an equal opportunity hater.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Blue » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:50 pm

Wonder what three names and murky fringe background this shooter will have. Bet all those cross-hair, shoot em and "2nd amendment solution" references on rightie politician's sites will disappear.

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