Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

[Sounder]

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[AlicetheKurious]

They only mention Egypt, but in the Arab press it is reported that when Obama went to Saudi Arabia, where he received a very cold reception, the Saudi and Emirati authorities handed him a thick file meticulously documenting the international organized crime network of the Muslim Brotherhood's global activities as well as its close links to (dependence on) Western, especially, US intelligence. The message was: "The jig is up." This comes at a time when the Qatari authorities have begun transferring the terrorists currently residing in Qatar, to new headquarters in London, where they have established a well-funded newspaper, a "research institute", and a new satellite television network that will be based in London and will broadcast their cult's propaganda all over the world. It was a clear warning to the sponsors of the Muslim Brotherhood and its subsidiaries/affiliates that those who harbor and support them will be viewed as responsible for their crimes, and suffer the economic/political/legal and other consequences.

TUESDAY, APR 1, 2014 01:45 PM EST
UK’s Cameron orders probe of Muslim Brotherhood
ASSOCIATED PRESS


LONDON (AP) — British Prime Minister David Cameron has told the country’s intelligence agencies to investigate the Muslim Brotherhood, amid reports the group is using London as a base after a crackdown on its activities in Egypt.

Cameron’s office said Tuesday “the prime minister has commissioned an internal government review into the philosophy and activities of the Muslim Brotherhood and the government’s policy towards the organization.”

Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Morsi was ousted as Egypt’s president last year, and Egypt has declared it a terrorist organization. The group says it is peaceful, but opponents accuse it of orchestrating a wave of deadly attacks on Egyptian police and military.

The Brotherhood has long had a presence in Britain, but the government is investigating whether its ranks have been swelled by members fleeing Egypt. Link

[AlicetheKurious]

Egypt's Minister of the Interior called a press conference two days ago, to announce that the Ministry has conclusive evidence that Morsi regularly took extremely sensitive, highly classified documents about the Egyptian military's capabilities and transferred them to one of his staffers, who in turn gave them to Qatari intelligence. Qatar is widely viewed as a conduit to Israeli intelligence. We know whom the Muslim Brotherhood really work for, and whose objectives they serve. And most Palestinians do, too. That's why Hamas refuses to hold elections. And why the "international community" doesn't have a problem with that.


Hamas' Qassam Brigades demonstrating on behalf of their leader.

[smiths]

so to clarify,

Morsi, who the American were hostile to (which is demonstrated by the way they supported his removal by a general) was giving intelligence to the Qataris who give it to the Israelis who are close to the Americans
el Sisi, who replaced him and was violently opposed to Morsi and his followers, is supported by the Americans and the West in general and presumably Israel as well and is now also passing on intelligence

right?

surely not?

[AlicetheKurious]

so to clarify,

Morsi, who the American were hostile to (which is demonstrated by the way they supported his removal by a general) was giving intelligence to the Qataris who give it to the Israelis who are close to the Americans
el Sisi, who replaced him and was violently opposed to Morsi and his followers, is supported by the Americans and the West in general and presumably Israel as well and is now also passing on intelligence

right?

surely not?

Not even close, smiths. You've not been following. In a nutshell:

The US engineered the Muslim Brotherhood's attempted takeover of all the so-called "Arab Spring" countries. The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been, just as its various subsidiaries, including "Al-Qaeda" are. Qatar is not a sovereign state; it is a US aircraft carrier in the Arab Gulf, ruled by the Israeli Mossad. Israel, through Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood and its subsidiaries) and Turkey, has one objective: to re-draw the map of the Middle East (a new Sykes-Picot) so that it is re-divided into weak and mutually hostile truncated mini-states, ruled by fanatics, without national armies, but militias and gangs dependent upon outside patronage and weapons imports. Divide and conquer, baby; look it up.

Morsi was not deposed by "a general"; the Egyptian people united and rose up to save their country and to demand the Muslim Brotherhood's removal in numbers never witnessed before in human history. But the Muslim Brotherhood had been arming and preparing a bloodbath to terrorize the people into submission. (Many of the weapons flooding into Egypt during the Brotherhood's year and a half in power were Libyan weapons that became available after NATO assassinated Qaddafi, or Israeli weapons smuggled into Egypt by Hamas). The Egyptian army faced three choices: 1) To follow Morsi's orders and turn its weapons against the people; 2) To stay out of it, and leave the Egyptian civilians at the mercy of the terrorists; and 3) To side with the people and the nation against those who were planning to do to Egypt what was done to Libya and Sudan and Syria and Somalia and Iraq and Yemen and, for that matter, Palestine. The army chose (3). That is because it is OUR army, the people's army, and it takes its orders from us, not from any foreign government.

The US has used every threat possible, including the threat of military attack. The Muslim Brotherhood has tried to give the US the pretext it needs, for example by burning down churches and Christian-owned homes and businesses and targeting Christian Egyptians, so the US could claim that it had to protect the Christians. But the Egyptian Christians both in Egypt and abroad united to say that they trust the Egyptian army, that they don't trust the US and that under no circumstances will they accept any US or other foreign intervention. Their "Al-Qaeda" affiliates' extremely violent terrorist activity in Sinai is also designed to help Israel and the "international community" claim that Egypt is unable to control the territory and that this directly threatens Israeli security, thus providing a pretext for Israeli or US military invasion/occupation. Our army's excellent work in Sinai (at a heavy cost indeed, in the lives of our officers and soldiers) has spoiled this plan as well. After all that failed, one among many objectives the Muslim Brotherhood is currently pursuing in Britain, is to have members of the Muslim Brotherhood international criminal cult declared "a persecuted minority" as a pretext for US-led military intervention. They won't stop, and neither will we.

El-Sisi is NOT "supported by the Americans and the West in general and presumably Israel as well" (!!!!!!!!!). On the contrary, next to Putin, he's undoubtedly at the top of the list of people they want dead. God forbid, may their evil be turned back against themselves.

[American Dream]

Police arrest Alexandria workers as strikes continue nationwide



Striking postal workers arrested as more than 50,000 employees of the state-owned postal services have been on strike across the country since Sunday, and have begun to be joined by other groups of workers.

Despite official attempts to bring an end to a wave of labor unrest that contributed to the downfall of Hazem al-Beblawi's government, a broad range of Egypt's labor workforce embarked on nationwide strikes on Tuesday.

Notable developments on Tuesday included the arrest of several striking postal workers in Alexandria, along with the beginning of a mass-resignation campaign by striking doctors. Doctors, dentists, pharmacists, postal workers, textile workers, custodial staff and others all staged walk-outs during the day.

Official attempts to quell the postal workers’ strike in Egypt’s second city led to the arrest of five independent union organizers. These arrests, however, served to widen the scope of the postal workers’ unrest on this, the third day of their strike.

More than 50,000 employees of the state-owned postal services have been on strike across the country since Sunday.

These arrests took place following legal charges filed to the office of the prosecutor general by the chief of the postal bureau in Alexandria. Seven other workers have also been issued arrest warrants.

The postal chief had claimed workers were attempting to obstruct public postal services, instigate work stoppages, and that workers were affiliated to the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, which the state classified as a terrorist organization in December.

However, a number of local media has reported how families of the arrested strikers dismissed the claims of politicization or Brotherhood affiliation. The family members also denounced the police raids and arrests of workers from their homes.

A number of other media reports mentioned that the postal strike had a negative impact for both clients and customers, and was perceived as an unpopular action by workers.

Speaking at the Journalists’ Syndicate on Sunday, Zeinab Farag, a trade unionist and strike leader from the Giza Postal Bureau, commented that she and tens of thousands of her colleagues had embarked on strike action as they were excluded from receiving the newly imposed LE1,200 monthly minimum wage, were not paid overdue bonuses and, in some cases, actually received deductions to their salaries.

“There’s enough money and resources to provide for our demands, yet the postal authorities do not care about us, nor do they care about our livelihoods," claimed Farag.

Farag and her colleagues claim that 90 percent of postal workers are on strike.

Several medical physicians meanwhile submitted their resignations to the Ministry of Health on Tuesday. This campaign of mass resignations comes amid the 18th consecutive day of strike action.

These strikes include partial work stoppages which do not affect emergency rooms, intensive care wards, nurseries, dialysis, urgent surgeries or other pressing medical conditions. A string of partial strikes were launched at the beginning of this year.

Joining them in this strike action are the Dentists’ Syndicate and Pharmacists’ Syndicate. The joint strike committee for these medical professions claims that around 75 percent of constituents are maintaining partial strike action in public health facilities.

The Health Ministry, on the other hand, claims that only around 30 percent of these medical personnel are actually participating in strikes.

The mass resignation campaign meanwhile aims to escalate pressure on the ministries of Health and Finance in order to realize strikers’ objectives: raising doctors’ starting salaries to at least the level of the minimum wage, implementing an incremental pay scale, increasing compensations for infectious illnesses, improving safety standards at public hospitals, and raising the allocation for healthcare in the national budget – from under four percent to 15 percent.

Dr. Amr al-Shora, board member of the Doctors’ Syndicate commented, "Today was the first day of planning for this campaign of mass resignations.”

He clarified that the resignations would be submitted to the Health Ministry once a certain number of signatories has been reached. The syndicate’s objective is the collection of 20,000 signatures of resignation prior to the submission.

Dr. Shora commented that he was the 11th syndicate board member to sign the roster of resignations, although “many others have also signed on to this list of collective resignations.

Some state-owned media outlets have suggested that strikes and resignations would not improve, but harm, the country’s medical healthcare system.

"Public hospitals lack proper facilities, equipment and funding," Dr. Shora said in response. "This is what really harms Egypt’s patients. We are part of a medical system with sub-human standards. This is our way of challenging this broken system, and aspiring to improve it.”

The syndicate board member added that further escalatory actions will be proposed and discussed on Friday during the Doctors’ Syndicate General Assembly meeting.

Meanwhile in the Nile Delta city of Kafr al-Dawwar, over 2,000 textile workers from the state-owned Misr Spinning and Weaving Company went on strike for the second day, demanding the payment of the new minimum wage, overdue bonuses, increased investments in the public sector textile industry, as well as the re-operation of stalled production lines within their industrial complex.

Also in Beheira Governorate, several hundred custodial workers and street cleaners in Kafr al-Dawwar and Damanhour, continued with strike actions for the eight consecutive day.

They demanded contracts for fulltime work, along with the payment of the new minimum wage.

From http://madamasr.com/content/police-arre ... nationwide

[FourthBase]

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been...

Wait...what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

[slimmouse]

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been...

Wait...what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

I havent been to the link, but you could probably offer any American about 100/1 on them telling you where the head of this revolutionary islamic movement comes from.

How many dollars would you make d'ya think, before anyone came close to the right answer.

Which gives Alices opinion a distinct flavour of authenticity in my book.

[FourthBase]

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been...

Wait...what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

I havent been to the link, but you could probably offer any American about 100/1 on them telling you where the head of this revolutionary islamic movement comes from.

How many dollars would you make d'ya think, before anyone came close to the right answer.

Which gives Alices opinion a distinct flavour of authenticity in my book.

Who and where are you talking about, and what is your reasoning?

[slimmouse]

Sorry FB.

Im referring to Morsi's NASA connections, as a former employee.

If He isn't or wasn't a US asset, then Im finding it hard to think of one around there just now who is a bigger candidate.

[FourthBase]

Sorry FB.

Im referring to Morsi's NASA connections, as a former employee.

If He isn't or wasn't a US asset, then Im finding it hard to think of one around there just now who is a bigger candidate.

Interesting.

But this...

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been

...is still a preposterous statement.

[slimmouse]

Sorry FB.

Im referring to Morsi's NASA connections, as a former employee.

If He isn't or wasn't a US asset, then Im finding it hard to think of one around there just now who is a bigger candidate.

Interesting.

But this...

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been

...is still a preposterous statement.

OK.... Im gonna raise that statement to "A tool of the Global Elite, since anyone here can clearly see how these sub divided organisations operate and who they ultimately answer to.

Especially over the last decade or so.

Just like you and I.

We probably are, as Charles Fort said, property.

For as long as we are prepared to put up with it.

I should also add that I think the Egyptian Peoiple have an overall understanding of the way the world works, who's overall accuracy would embarrass almost everyone that we know.

They appear to desire an Egypt that is rather more for Egyptians, as opposed to Monsanto, Halliburton and Goldman Sachs ( to choose just 3 examples of doubltess beneficiaries of any alternative)

That kind of understaniding would be considered "deep" in most parts of the Western world.

[FourthBase]

So, the gist is, what, that there are no bad brown people, only phonies planted by bad pale people? Folks, cut the shit. I do not doubt that the world's elites would attempt to infiltrate every significant political movement in the world, the MB no exception. But at the same time, don't pretend like the MB isn't approved of by hundreds of millions of devout/zealous Muslims.

[Sounder]

But this...

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been

...is still a preposterous statement.

It is the opposite statement that would be preposterous. MB has always been an OWO tool, simply look for a bit more than a wiki history and anyone will likely find this to be true.


http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/mus ... 0G6AaJgw98

.......In response to Nasser’s nationalization of the Canal, the United Kingdom and France, with the help of Israel, invaded the Sinai and much of Port Said, sending the Egyptian military into retreat. However, due to pressure from both the United States and the Soviet Union, the British and the French had to withdraw. Though Israel did achieve the cessation of Egyptian raids, Nasser was hailed as having achieved a victory for the Arab world.

Fleeing members of the Muslim Brotherhood were then shuttled to the CIA’s ally, Saudi Arabia. When John Loftus, a Justice Department official in the eighties, was permitted to peruse classified government documents, he revealed that the British Secret Service convinced American intelligence that the Arab Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood would be indispensable as “freedom fighters” in preparation for the next major war, which was anticipated against the Soviet Union. Kim Philby, the Soviet agent who infiltrated the British Secret Service, and the son of “Abdullah” Philby, helped the US acquire these Arab Nazis, then being expelled from Egypt, who were afterwards sent to Saudi Arabia. There, according to Loftus, “they were given jobs as religion education instructors.”[33]

Thus, beginning in the 1960s, the Salafi became more formally allied to the Wahhabis, who became the principal patrons of the Brotherhood, which set up branches in most Arab states. With the CIA’s tacit approval, the Saudis provided funds for Brotherhood members who joined the anti-Nasser insurgency in Yemen in 1962. “Like any other truly effective covert action, this one was strictly off the books,” wrote Robert Baer, a nineteen-year veteran of the CIA, in Sleeping with the Devil. “There was no CIA funding, no memorandum of notification to Congress. Not a penny came out of the Treasury to fund it. In other words, no record.” Describing the Brotherhood as a “silent ally” that provided a “cheap no-American casualties way” to do “our dirty work in Yemen, Afghanistan, and plenty of other places,” Baer explained, “All the White House had to do was give a wink and a nod to countries harboring the Muslim Brothers.”[34]

[AlicetheKurious]

But this...

The Muslim Brotherhood is nothing but a tool of Western intelligence, and has always been

...is still a preposterous statement.

Yeah, I would have thought so too, before the three years I and most Egyptians and for that matter, most Arabs, have spent in the school of hard knocks. As the saying goes, "What you don't know can hurt you." And how.

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928-32 by Hassan El-Banna an obscure schoolteacher, along with some employees of the Suez Canal Company, with 500 pounds sterling (a huge sum at the time) donated by the British occupation officials who ran the Suez Canal Company. To counter the wave of Arab nationalism that was sweeping the region and threatening imperialist interests, the British nurtured the bizarre, masonic-like cult being propagated by the Muslim Brotherhood, which has very little in common with Islam and indeed violates its most central precepts. Contrary to Islam, the Muslim Brotherhood's cult exhorts its brainwashed minions to lie, to kill, to cheat, to steal, in fact to commit any crime and any treason in the name of its false "Islam", which is whatever they say it is. The cult targets children, and teaches them that to "hear and obey" their "family", i.e. their superiors in the Brotherhood, is the only acceptable form of worship. They are not allowed to read anything, watch anything, listen to anything or think anything unless it is first cleared by the Brotherhood. It fills their lives with activities on behalf of the Brotherhood. Even their choice of studies or friends or spouse is dictated by the Brotherhood. They do this while proclaiming themselves to be the champions of a religion, Islam, that on the contrary, explicitly teaches worshipers to seek God independently, through free study and contemplation, and forbids any human intermediary from imposing his interpretation. They are taught that their fake "Islam" is to be imposed by force and violence when circumstances allow, again in flagrant violation of Islam the religion, which forbids religious coercion in any form.

Most usefully, from the imperialist point of view, the Muslim Brotherhood denounces nationalism and any expression of love and loyalty for one's country as "idolatry". After they took power, the Brotherhood parliamentarians dropped the mask and suddenly showed their true colors by refusing to stand for the Egyptian national anthem, by removing the Egyptian flag from their offices and Morsi even ordered a priceless antique, hand-woven wall-hanging representing the map of Egypt to be removed from the presidential palace. Imagine. This, while none of them had any problem standing for the US national anthem. Huh.

We've learned a lot from the few who have managed to escape their indoctrination, notably Dr. Tharwat El-Kherbawy, who was recruited as a teenager and rose quite high in the ranks before he left them in the 1990s. It took him seven full years to rebuild his identity, with great difficulty. In many ways, he is unique. He's produced two fascinating, highly informative books about the Brotherhood, one autobiographical, and another, The Secret of the Temple, that sheds more light on this extremely secretive cult. Unfortunately, as far as I know, it's only available in Arabic.

In his first book, El-Kherbawy recounts an illustrative anecdote about how, when he was around 14 years old (if I remember correctly) and first being recruited into the Brotherhood, he was at one of their summer training camps, at a beach. Among the exercises he was given was to be handed a plastic cup and told to take it to the beach, bury it in the stand, then stand over it and defend it against a succession of opponents who would attack him and try to get it. El-Kherbawy decided to be clever: he buried it in one place, then went and stood somewhere else. When the opponents showed up, he simply ran away, knowing the cup was securely buried where they'd never find it. At the same time, he avoided getting hurt. When the monitors found out what he'd done, they reprimanded him severely and gave him a failing grade; the purpose was to test his capacity for blind obedience. Any kind of independent thought or creativity was discouraged. In other words, the purpose of the Brotherhood is, simply put, to produce tools. And that is exactly why it was formed, and how it's always been used to further British and subsequently American and Zionist objectives, always at the expense of the tools themselves, and of course the targeted countries where they are recruited.

Besides the handful of 'defectors', there are also many historians and investigative journalists who have done excellent work over the years, tracing the history of the Brotherhood, but whose findings only became widely sought after the Brotherhood came to power in Egypt. Like you, most Egyptians would have found this information "preposterous" if they'd read it before, but it's a lot harder to dismiss claims when you're buried up to your neck in the corroborating evidence.


Dr. Tharwat El-Kherbawy

Anyway. Given the way your government has nurtured and financed and provided logistical support to the Brotherhood's expansion not only in our countries but in yours, you might be experiencing the evidence for yourself soon enough, though I sincerely hope not. They are very destructive when they're unleashed against a targeted society. Perfect for false flag attacks designed to get you to panic and agree to anything. And by "anything", I mean what the real decision-makers in YOUR government happen to want, exactly.

They threaten. That's the first step. Here, they threatened that Egypt would "be set on fire", and that there would be "rivers of blood in the streets," if their robot Morsi wasn't elected, and then if the Egyptians rose up to depose him. The US Ambassador in Egypt, Anne Patterson, when she wasn't closeted for hours in secret meetings with the Brotherhood, was also threatening us and scolding us and ordering us around. How's that for what the US approvingly described at the time as "Egypt's fledgling democracy"?

Now that the British government has responded to Saudi and Egyptian and domestic popular pressure by going through the motions of launching a probe of the Muslim Brotherhood's activities in London, the Brotherhood has started making very similar threats in Britain. I hope the British people are listening, even if their government isn't. I hope the British and the American and all the other people will take the trouble to learn from our experience.

Sorry, I'm not registered and therefore can't access the full article:

Ban on Muslim Brotherhood ‘will increase terrorism risk’


Ibrahim Mounir: you can’t predict what would happen
Jon enoch/The Times

Tom Coghlan
Last updated at 12:01AM, April 5 2014

Banning the Muslim Brotherhood will leave Britain at greater risk of terrorist attacks, the group’s most senior leader in the UK said yesterday.

Speaking for the first time since David Cameron announced an investigation into the organisation’s alleged links to violent extremism, Ibrahim Mounir said that it risked alienating moderate Muslims. “If this [ban] happened, this would make a lot of people in Muslim communities think that [peaceful] Muslim Brotherhood values . . . didn’t work and now they are designated a terrorist group, which would make the doors open for all options,” he said. Asked if he meant open to violence, he...Link

The full article has been widely published in Arabic, but I'd love to read the original in English, if someone can get it.