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82_28 wrote:Run away, I think. Don't surround yourself with it. Sucks your sister has been lapped up, but there is nothing in my imagination that I can find that you can do with situations like this, other than to run, stay out of it and become a "phagocyte". If you look in the mirror and you see HUMAN, run. Otherwise, report for duty. Get away as fast as possible and live life. Stay curious, but ingest the history of at least the twentieth century and use those connections to get at the myth of this power and where it began.
The Empire Never Ended. . .
I know I'm a PKDicktard, but read this, if you haven't already. Honestly, it has provided all existential answers to me for all of time and it is really where I draw all of any kind of wisdom I try and muster. Plus it's open-source -- if you get what I mean by that. . .
http://deoxy.org/pkd_tcs.htm
We must begin redesigning the old world by not believing it has ever been real.
hava1 wrote:thanks
the discussion was a bit more elaborate than my final conclusion (which goes to "legal accountability in cases of individual manslaughter"). The assertion I refuted was that MK Ultra experiments produced killers who were programmed for that purpose. The cited experiments to prove it, only show that ANY individual under certain hypnosis was shown to have easily picked a gun and shot someone by command. So, if anyone could be so ordered, the MK context is irrelevant, otherwise, I know, and agree, that we are easily convinced by others to hate and destroy. BUt was not the point of discussion.
Beatrice tells Lucifer that "he made Dante sin", but Lucifer insists that he usually does not need to interfere . that's philosophy.
Convicted RFK assassin says girl manipulated him
By LINDA DEUTSCH The Associated Press
updated 1 hour 52 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES — Convicted assassin Sirhan Sirhan was manipulated by a seductive girl in a mind control plot to shoot Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, and his bullets did not kill the presidential candidate, lawyers for Sirhan said in new legal papers.
The documents filed this week in federal court detail extensive interviews with Sirhan during the past three years, some done while he was under hypnosis.
The papers point to a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress as the controller who led Sirhan to fire a gun in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. But the documents suggest a second person shot and killed Kennedy while using Sirhan as a diversion.
For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into "range mode" believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes.
"I thought that I was at the range more than I was actually shooting at any person, let alone Bobby Kennedy," Sirhan was quoted as saying during interviews with Daniel Brown, a Harvard University professor and expert in trauma memory and hypnosis. He interviewed Sirhan for 60 hours with and without hypnosis, according to the legal brief.
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8bitagent wrote:Geez, finally.
The acoustics alone show there was another shooter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAp6kbL ... 0C0B6BF822
I'm guessing CIA spooks found Sirhan Sirhan post horse injury head accident at the Rosicrucian order, put the "RFK supports murder of Palestinians" in his head,
and the rest is history.
These kinds of operations seem like exceptional double bind win-win for the perps. Even though there are huge anomalies, they count on most people not even wanting to entertain conspiracy.
On the other hand, those that do...they can just say "oh right, grassy knoll, little green men, bigfoot right? whats this, mind control? Geez...everyone saw Sirhan fire, end of story".
But unlike Mcveigh, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed/Ramzi Yousef, etc...Sirhan Sirhan always denied involvement.
Now let's see if the leftist/alternative media picks up on this(other than Rawstory)...
From three years ago "New Evidence Challenges Official RFK Story"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/ ... assination
Jeff wrote:Convicted RFK assassin says girl manipulated him
By LINDA DEUTSCH The Associated Press
updated 1 hour 52 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES — Convicted assassin Sirhan Sirhan was manipulated by a seductive girl in a mind control plot to shoot Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, and his bullets did not kill the presidential candidate, lawyers for Sirhan said in new legal papers.
The documents filed this week in federal court detail extensive interviews with Sirhan during the past three years, some done while he was under hypnosis.
The papers point to a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress as the controller who led Sirhan to fire a gun in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. But the documents suggest a second person shot and killed Kennedy while using Sirhan as a diversion.
For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into "range mode" believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes.
"I thought that I was at the range more than I was actually shooting at any person, let alone Bobby Kennedy," Sirhan was quoted as saying during interviews with Daniel Brown, a Harvard University professor and expert in trauma memory and hypnosis. He interviewed Sirhan for 60 hours with and without hypnosis, according to the legal brief.
...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42806895/ns/us_news/
Pepper, a New York lawyer with an international practice, previously tried to prove that James Earl Ray was not the assassin of Martin Luther King Jr.
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