Project Willow wrote:I do believe I see a pattern here, and I cannot know of course, but it looks to me like you're blaming women for ritual abuse-torture,
I am, quite openly, linking the sex-and-death, murder-and-magic cults of various historical periods with those of today. Not women, as those groups have never been entirely female.
which ironically and in my opinion is in stark contrast to yours, mirrors what happened with the witch hunts. I hate to tell you this Stephen, but the overwhelming majority of survivors who are activists against RA and SRA are female, and the overriding majority of people who have been able to share their experiences are female and experienced those abusive occult groups as patriarchal, not matriarchal.
Of course, that would be the experience of anyone in contact with the most prolific abusers. What the cults, in my view, present as an outward facade is that of matriarchalism, which probably forms a key part of their dogma. I refer, for example, to the position allegedly occupied by Arizona Wilder. In actual practice the controlling core is made up of men, whose familiar victims (those victimised personally, that is, rather than through lackeys, societal structures and so forth) are mostly women.
I don't discount the possibility that there may be matriarchal groups operating and perpetrating organized extreme abuse upon kids, but this is not the norm. Regardless, and I am just going to state this as a hypothetical because I have no personal knowledge about you, but making generalizations about the condition of women, the REAL condition of women in society as some sort of salve for personal abuse experiences serves nothing but to wrongly inflict pain upon others. If you're inflicting pain upon others, especially survivors of similar horrors, in effect you're doing the work of perps.
I'm not sure what generalisations you're referring to. Those about women not being an oppressed group? It's true. I don't offer it as a salve to abuse survivors, I merely observe that it is the case. No doubt you don't offer the allegation of patriarchy as a way to make men who get gang-raped in prison feel better about themselves.
There's a saying in the 'hood in the US: "If you're dissin' the sistas, you ain't fightin' the power."
I disagree with the honourable member for Compton south.
I experience your denial of my reality as a female in this society as an assault,
I don't know what denying your reality means, I merely state the facts as I see them. You being an oppressed individual doesn't make your group an oppressed one, only you. Abuse survivors may be an oppressed group, current abuse victims obviously are. Women, by contrast, are not.
and I'm not even taking into account my experience of being raised in a patriarchal satanist cult, I'm talking about the features and beliefs of that cult that are reflected in wider society, the beliefs and features that you deny. I don't doubt that other female survivors and potential members of this board may experience it the same way. I can't imagine the number of others who experience your hate speech as a potential physical threat, after all, most don't know where you live.
I'm not a violent man. If I was I wouldn't hit women, at least not unless they were bigger than me. There's no fun in fighting with people weaker than yourself. Obviously, I'd need a good reason too, I don't just go around thumping giants.
I don't suppose it would help to say I consider groundless allegations that I am some sort of debased predator to be "an assault", or that I experience them as such, but it remains the case.
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia