12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

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12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Nordic » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:05 am

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12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

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One of the most frequently asked questions we receive at the National Inflation Association (NIA) is what warning signs will there be when hyperinflation is imminent. In our opinion, the majority of the warning signs that hyperinflation is imminent are already here today, but most Americans are failing to properly recognize them. NIA believes that there is a serious risk of hyperinflation breaking out as soon as the second half of this calendar year and that hyperinflation is almost guaranteed to occur by the end of this decade.

In our estimation, the most likely time frame for a full-fledged outbreak of hyperinflation is between the years 2013 and 2015. Americans who wait until 2013 to prepare, will most likely see the majority of their purchasing power wiped out. It is essential that all Americans begin preparing for hyperinflation immediately.

Here are NIA's top 12 warning signs that hyperinflation is about to occur:

1) The Federal Reserve is Buying 70% of U.S. Treasuries. The Federal Reserve has been buying 70% of all new U.S. treasury debt. Up until this year, the U.S. has been successful at exporting most of its inflation to the rest of the world, which is hoarding huge amounts of U.S. dollar reserves due to the U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency. In recent months, foreign central bank purchases of U.S. treasuries have declined from 50% down to 30%, and Federal Reserve purchases have increased from 10% up to 70%. This means U.S. government deficit spending is now directly leading to U.S. inflation that will destroy the standard of living for all Americans.

2) The Private Sector Has Stopped Purchasing U.S. Treasuries. The U.S. private sector was previously a buyer of 30% of U.S. government bonds sold. Today, the U.S. private sector has stopped buying U.S. treasuries and is dumping government debt. The Pimco Total Return Fund was recently the single largest private sector owner of U.S. government bonds, but has just reduced its U.S. treasury holdings down to zero. Although during the financial panic of 2008, investors purchased government bonds as a safe haven, during all future panics we believe precious metals will be the new safe haven.

3) China Moving Away from U.S. Dollar as Reserve Currency. The U.S. dollar became the world's reserve currency because it was backed by gold and the U.S. had the world's largest manufacturing base. Today, the U.S. dollar is no longer backed by gold and China has the world's largest manufacturing base. There is no reason for the world to continue to transact products and commodities in U.S. dollars, when most of everything the world consumes is now produced in China. China has been taking steps to position the yuan to be the world's new reserve currency.

The People's Bank of China stated earlier this month, in a story that went largely unreported by the mainstream media, that it would respond to overseas demand for the yuan to be used as a reserve currency and allow the yuan to flow back into China more easily. China hopes to allow all exporters and importers to settle their cross border transactions in yuan by the end of 2011, as part of their plan to increase the yuan's international role. NIA believes if China really wants to become the world's next superpower and see to it that the U.S. simultaneously becomes the world's next Zimbabwe, all China needs to do is use their $1.15 trillion in U.S. dollar reserves to accumulate gold and use that gold to back the yuan.

4) Japan to Begin Dumping U.S. Treasuries. Japan is the second largest holder of U.S. treasury securities with $885.9 billion in U.S. dollar reserves. Although China has reduced their U.S. treasury holdings for three straight months, Japan has increased their U.S. treasury holdings seven months in a row. Japan is the country that has been the most consistent at buying our debt for the past year, but that is about the change. Japan is likely going to have to spend $300 billion over the next year to rebuild parts of their country that were destroyed by the recent earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear disaster, and NIA believes their U.S. dollar reserves will be the most likely source of this funding. This will come at the worst possible time for the U.S., which needs Japan to increase their purchases of U.S. treasuries in order to fund our record budget deficits.

5) The Fed Funds Rate Remains Near Zero. The Federal Reserve has held the Fed Funds Rate at 0.00-0.25% since December 16th, 2008, a period of over 27 months. This is unprecedented and NIA believes the world is now flooded with excess liquidity of U.S. dollars.

When the nuclear reactors in Japan began overheating two weeks ago after their cooling systems failed due to a lack of electricity, TEPCO was forced to open relief valves to release radioactive steam into the air in order to avoid an explosion. The U.S. stock market is currently acting as a relief valve for all of the excess liquidity of U.S. dollars. The U.S. economy for all intents and purposes should currently be in a massive and extremely steep recession, but because of the Fed's money printing, stock prices are rising because people don't know what else to do with their dollars.

NIA believes gold, and especially silver, are much better hedges against inflation than U.S. equities, which is why for the past couple of years we have been predicting large declines in both the Dow/Gold and Gold/Silver ratios. These two ratios have been in free fall exactly like NIA projected.

The Dow/Gold ratio is the single most important chart all investors need to closely follow, but way too few actually do. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) itself is meaningless because it averages together the dollar based movements of 30 U.S. stocks. With just the DJIA, it is impossible to determine whether stocks are rising due to improving fundamentals and real growing investor demand, or if prices are rising simply because the money supply is expanding.

The Dow/Gold ratio illustrates the cyclical nature of the battle between paper assets like stocks and real hard assets like gold. The Dow/Gold ratio trends upward when an economy sees real economic growth and begins to trend downward when the growth phase ends and everybody becomes concerned about preserving wealth. With interest rates at 0%, the U.S. economy is on life support and wealth preservation is the focus of most investors. NIA believes the Dow/Gold ratio will decline to 1 before the hyperinflationary crisis is over and until the Dow/Gold ratio does decline to 1, investors should keep buying precious metals.

6) Year-Over-Year CPI Growth Has Increased 92% in Three Months. In November of 2010, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics (BLS)'s consumer price index (CPI) grew by 1.1% over November of 2009. In February of 2011, the BLS's CPI grew by 2.11% over February of 2010, above the Fed's informal inflation target of 1.5% to 2%. An increase in year-over-year CPI growth from 1.1% in November of last year to 2.11% in February of this year means that the CPI's growth rate increased by approximately 92% over a period of just three months. Imagine if the year-over-year CPI growth rate continues to increase by 92% every three months. In 9 to 12 months from now we could be looking at a price inflation rate of over 15%. Even if the BLS manages to artificially hold the CPI down around 5% or 6%, NIA believes the real rate of price inflation will still rise into the double-digits within the next year.

7) Mainstream Media Denying Fed's Target Passed. You would think that year-over-year CPI growth rising from 1.1% to 2.11% over a period of three months for an increase of 92% would generate a lot of media attention, especially considering that it has now surpassed the Fed's informal inflation target of 1.5% to 2%. Instead of acknowledging that inflation is beginning to spiral out of control and encouraging Americans to prepare for hyperinflation like NIA has been doing for years, the media decided to conveniently change the way it defines the Fed's informal target.

The media is now claiming that the Fed's informal inflation target of 1.5% to 2% is based off of year-over-year changes in the BLS's core-CPI figures. Core-CPI, as most of you already know, is a meaningless number that excludes food and energy prices. Its sole purpose is to be used to mislead the public in situations like this. We guarantee that if core-CPI had just surpassed 2% and the normal CPI was still below 2%, the media would be focusing on the normal CPI number, claiming that it remains below the Fed's target and therefore inflation is low and not a problem.

The fact of the matter is, food and energy are the two most important things Americans need to live and survive. If the BLS was going to exclude something from the CPI, you would think they would exclude goods that Americans don't consume on a daily basis. The BLS claims food and energy prices are excluded because they are most volatile. However, by excluding food and energy, core-CPI numbers are primarily driven by rents. Considering that we just came out of the largest Real Estate bubble in world history, there is a glut of homes available to rent on the market. NIA has been saying for years that being a landlord will be the worst business to be in during hyperinflation, because it will be impossible for landlords to increase rents at the same rate as overall price inflation. Food and energy prices will always increase at a much faster rate than rents.

8) Record U.S. Budget Deficit in February of $222.5 Billion. The U.S. government just reported a record budget deficit for the month of February of $222.5 billion. February's budget deficit was more than the entire fiscal year of 2007. In fact, February's deficit on an annualized basis was $2.67 trillion. NIA believes this is just a preview of future annual budget deficits, and we will see annual budget deficits surpass $2.67 trillion within the next several years.

9) High Budget Deficit as Percentage of Expenditures. The projected U.S. budget deficit for fiscal year 2011 of $1.645 trillion is 43% of total projected government expenditures in 2011 of $3.819 trillion. That is almost exactly the same level of Brazil's budget deficit as a percentage of expenditures right before they experienced hyperinflation in 1993 and it is higher than Bolivia's budget deficit as a percentage of expenditures right before they experienced hyperinflation in 1985. The only way a country can survive with such a large deficit as a percentage of expenditures and not have hyperinflation, is if foreigners are lending enough money to pay for the bulk of their deficit spending. Hyperinflation broke out in Brazil and Bolivia when foreigners stopped lending and central banks began monetizing the bulk of their deficit spending, and that is exactly what is taking place today in the U.S.

10) Obama Lies About Foreign Policy. President Obama campaigned as an anti-war President who would get our troops out of Iraq. NIA believes that many Libertarian voters actually voted for Obama in 2008 over John McCain because they felt Obama was more likely to end our wars that are adding greatly to our budget deficits and making the U.S. a lot less safe as a result. Obama may have reduced troop levels in Iraq, but he increased troops levels in Afghanistan, and is now sending troops into Libya for no reason.

The U.S. is now beginning to occupy Libya, when Libya didn't do anything to the U.S. and they are no threat to the U.S. Obama has increased our overall overseas troop levels since becoming President and the U.S. is now spending $1 trillion annually on military expenses, which includes the costs to maintain over 700 military bases in 135 countries around the world. There is no way that we can continue on with our overseas military presence without seeing hyperinflation.

11) Obama Changes Definition of Balanced Budget. In the White House's budget projections for the next 10 years, they don't project that the U.S. will ever come close to achieving a real balanced budget. In fact, after projecting declining budget deficits up until the year 2015 (NIA believes we are unlikely to see any major dip in our budget deficits due to rising interest payments on our national debt), the White House projects our budget deficits to begin increasing again up until the year 2021. Obama recently signed an executive order to create the "National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform", with a mission to "propose recommendations designed to balance the budget, excluding interest payments on the debt, by 2015". Obama is redefining a balanced budget to exclude interest payments on our national debt, because he knows interest payments are about to explode and it will be impossible to trul y balance the budget.

12) U.S. Faces Largest Ever Interest Payment Increases. With U.S. inflation beginning to spiral out of control, NIA believes it is 100% guaranteed that we will soon see a large spike in long-term bond yields. Not only that, but within the next couple of years, NIA believes the Federal Reserve will be forced to raise the Fed Funds Rate in a last-ditch effort to prevent hyperinflation. When both short and long-term interest rates start to rise, so will the interest payments on our national debt. With the public portion of our national debt now exceeding $10 trillion, we could see interest payments on our debt reach $500 billion within the next year or two, and over $1 trillion somewhere around mid-decade. When interest payments reach $1 trillion, they will likely be around 30% to 40% of government tax receipts, up from interest payments being only 9% of tax receipts today. No country has ever seen interest payments on their debt reach 40% of tax receipts without hyperinflation occurring in the years to come.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby freemason9 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:34 pm

this won't happen because it would reduce the relative effective debt of american workers

hyperinflation is not wanted by wall street; ergo, it will not happen

and this loaded statement in item number one:
"This means U.S. government deficit spending is now directly leading to U.S. inflation that will destroy the standard of living for all Americans."

destroys credibility in all that followed
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Nordic » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:47 pm

Wall Street has debts, too. So does Uncle Sam.

Inflation will make the dollar value of those debts shrink, perhaps greatly.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby justdrew » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:58 pm

hmm. so in a way hyperinflation could work out like the ultimate jubilee. everyone pays off all their debt in wheelbarrow cash?

"stock prices are rising because people don't know what else to do with their dollars"


time to make a sustainable infrastructure redevelopment play then right? massive re-engineering funded by 'charter-shares' in projects, repayment+profit comes from lifetime payments from the lease holders/operators (local governments, community organizations, etc). Reduce costs by covering liability via a national shared infrastructure liability fund, that acts as a check against any overly dangerous projects.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby compared2what? » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:06 am

The National Inflation Association is a patriot-network-promoting, Glenn-Beck-official seal-of-approval scam. There are no immanent signs of hyper-inflation, they just want you to buy worthless gold and silver coins, consent to the gutting of social security, and generally be terrified. More complaints show up for the other company run by NIA's founder (Gerard Adams, who runs a pump-and-dump penny-stock concern called Wall Street Grand, when not hyping hyper-inflation).

But here are a couple for the NIA that pretty much cover it:

    Economists say food crisis prediction from Beck's inflation expert is "crazy"


    Economists tell Media Matters that they've "never heard" of the organization Glenn Beck has cited to fearmonger over a coming "food crisis," and mocked the group's conclusion that massive inflation in food prices is imminent.

    Last week, Beck repeatedly used his Fox News show to hype predictions from the "credible people" at the National Inflation Association (NIA) of a coming "food crisis." Beck cited NIA's forecast of huge increases in the cost of food staples, which Beck has said is a result of both the Federal Reserve's efforts at quantitative easing, and George Soros' supposed sinister plot to devalue the dollar for his own personal gain.

    Dean Baker, the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, said he's "never heard" of NIA, but told Media Matters their conclusions are ridiculous on their face: "Inflation is falling, not rising, this is crazy." Josh Bivens of the Economic Policy Institute agreed, saying that he's "definitely never heard of them," but that based on their forecast, "no one would say they're a group you'd look to for serious analysis."

    Likewise, Mark Thoma, professor of economics at the University of Oregon, who blogs at Economist's View, said, "I have never heard of this association and would not give it any credibility."
    He added that "[c]redible economists concerned about inflation do not believe we will get anywhere near to hyperinflation."

    According to its website, the NIA "is an organization that is dedicated to preparing Americans for hyperinflation and helping Americans not only survive, but prosper in the upcoming hyperinflationary crisis." The group is headed by Gerard Adams, who is also president of Wall Street Grand, a website that makes penny stock picks. NIA also makes stock picks.

    Both NIA and Wall Street Grand push a wide variety of precious metals stocks. Thoma told Media Matters that NIA "seems to be designed to get people to invest in gold and silver by making them believe that hyperinflation is just around the corner," and speculated that there might be "a connection between the site and firms operating in gold and silver markets."

    In a report published November 5, Adams responded to the Federal Reserve's announcement that it would be engaging in $600 billion in quantitative easing by saying that agricultural commodity prices would "go through the roof like nothing any American has ever experienced before." He predicted, for example, that a loaf of bread "would likely rise to around $23.05" and a bar of Hershey's milk chocolate would reach $15.50. Adams provides no explanation for how he reached those figures.

    On Monday, Beck said that he had NIA "checked out six ways to Sunday" and "these are credible people." He then provided NIA's predictions for food costs, and commented, "Welcome to your future of monetizing the debt." Beck listed the same predicted costs on Wednesday, suggesting that the increases would be due to Soros' purported efforts to "devalue the dollar." On Thursday, he brought up the prices again, saying, "I don't know if any of this is true." He added: "We called several experts to verify, 'Do you think this is true?' They said, no, they don't think that's true because they just think that people won't have any money to be able to afford $77 coffee."

    But according to Baker, the idea that these sorts of price increases are coming makes no sense. He says that the Fed's quantitative easing "is $600 billion in a $15 trillion economy with massive amounts of idle capacity. If you multiple it by 1000 then maybe you might get the sort of hyperinflation they are talking about." He added, "Will Martians land in NYC? Will newborn babies have gills? Do they have any evidence in the world to support this view?"

    Baker also points out that "if any significant number of people believed this crap, they would be shorting long-term bonds and pushing U.S. interest rates up," which isn't happening.

    Givens agreed that there's "no economic reason for a surge in food prices like they're talking about." Thoma similarly cited the NIA's use of the term "hyperinflation" as evidence that they are "trying to sell something rather than present any sort of objective, factual information."


    As Media Matters has noted, Beck has repeatedly portrayed Soros' call for a "managed decline" of the dollar as a dangerous effort in which Soros "will gain profit and power and you will learn both." But economists like Paul Krugman, Nouriel Roubini and Mark Zandi have all touted the positive outcome of a weaker dollar.



There's also this video, the provenance of which I don't know and can't vouch for, but fwiw. the stuff on the NIA starts at about 1:36

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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby compared2what? » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:23 am

Also fwiw, Paul Krugman writes about the non-happening of hyper-inflation all the time on his blog, if anyone cares like examining it further. WRT the economy specifically, his track record has been absolutely perfect for, like, the last eight or nine years, as far as I can recall. Which is a shame, because he's been predicting direness for quite some time now. Nor hyperinflationary direness, but direness nevertheless.

Anyway. Here's a column by him on the same general theme as the stuff I just posted:

    The Big Inflation Scare

    Suddenly it seems as if everyone is talking about inflation. Stern opinion pieces warn that hyperinflation is just around the corner. And markets may be heeding these warnings: Interest rates on long-term government bonds are up, with fear of future inflation one possible reason for the interest-rate spike.

    But does the big inflation scare make any sense? Basically, no — with one caveat I’ll get to later. And I suspect that the scare is at least partly about politics rather than economics.

    First things first. It’s important to realize that there’s no hint of inflationary pressures in the economy right now. Consumer prices are lower now than they were a year ago, and wage increases have stalled in the face of high unemployment. Deflation, not inflation, is the clear and present danger.

    So if prices aren’t rising, why the inflation worries? Some claim that the Federal Reserve is printing lots of money, which must be inflationary, while others claim that budget deficits will eventually force the U.S. government to inflate away its debt.

    The first story is just wrong. The second could be right, but isn’t.

    Now, it’s true that the Fed has taken unprecedented actions lately. More specifically, it has been buying lots of debt both from the government and from the private sector, and paying for these purchases by crediting banks with extra reserves. And in ordinary times, this would be highly inflationary: banks, flush with reserves, would increase loans, which would drive up demand, which would push up prices.

    But these aren’t ordinary times. Banks aren’t lending out their extra reserves. They’re just sitting on them — in effect, they’re sending the money right back to the Fed. So the Fed isn’t really printing money after all.

    Still, don’t such actions have to be inflationary sooner or later? No. The Bank of Japan, faced with economic difficulties not too different from those we face today, purchased debt on a huge scale between 1997 and 2003. What happened to consumer prices? They fell.

    All in all, much of the current inflation discussion calls to mind what happened during the early years of the Great Depression when many influential people were warning about inflation even as prices plunged. As the British economist Ralph Hawtrey wrote, “Fantastic fears of inflation were expressed. That was to cry, Fire, Fire in Noah’s Flood.” And he went on, “It is after depression and unemployment have subsided that inflation becomes dangerous.”

    Is there a risk that we’ll have inflation after the economy recovers? That’s the claim of those who look at projections that federal debt may rise to more than 100 percent of G.D.P. and say that America will eventually have to inflate away that debt — that is, drive up prices so that the real value of the debt is reduced.

    Such things have happened in the past. For example, France ultimately inflated away much of the debt it incurred while fighting World War I.

    But more modern examples are lacking. Over the past two decades, Belgium, Canada and, of course, Japan have all gone through episodes when debt exceeded 100 percent of G.D.P. And the United States itself emerged from World War II with debt exceeding 120 percent of G.D.P. In none of these cases did governments resort to inflation to resolve their problems.

    So is there any reason to think that inflation is coming? Some economists have argued for moderate inflation as a deliberate policy, as a way to encourage lending and reduce private debt burdens. I’m sympathetic to these arguments and made a similar case for Japan in the 1990s. But the case for inflation never made headway with Japanese policy makers then, and there’s no sign it’s getting traction with U.S. policy makers now.

    All of this raises the question: If inflation isn’t a real risk, why all the claims that it is?

    Well, as you may have noticed, economists sometimes disagree. And big disagreements are especially likely in weird times like the present, when many of the normal rules no longer apply.

    But it’s hard to escape the sense that the current inflation fear-mongering is partly political, coming largely from economists who had no problem with deficits caused by tax cuts but suddenly became fiscal scolds when the government started spending money to rescue the economy. And their goal seems to be to bully the Obama administration into abandoning those rescue efforts.

    Needless to say, the president should not let himself be bullied. The economy is still in deep trouble and needs continuing help.

    Yes, we have a long-run budget problem, and we need to start laying the groundwork for a long-run solution. But when it comes to inflation, the only thing we have to fear is inflation fear itself.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:34 am

Interesting. But:

Dean Baker, the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, said he's "never heard" of NIA, but told Media Matters their conclusions are ridiculous on their face: "Inflation is falling, not rising, this is crazy."


That's just a goddamn lie. Prices are going up everywhere, especially for the stuff that actually matters, like food and fuel.

So I don't know who to believe, at least in the media.

I do know what my own eyes tell me, however. The dollar is losing its status as the reserve currency, the Fed now owns more treasury debt than China, and there's no end in sight. The financial situation seems analogous to the Japan melt down situation.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby compared2what? » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:45 am

Nordic wrote:Interesting. But:

Dean Baker, the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, said he's "never heard" of NIA, but told Media Matters their conclusions are ridiculous on their face: "Inflation is falling, not rising, this is crazy."


That's just a goddamn lie. Prices are going up everywhere, especially for the stuff that actually matters, like food and fuel.


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Very slightly, as they always do. Fuel prices might go hyper-up at some point, for the obvious reasons. But inflation has been stably low for a long time.

So I don't know who to believe, at least in the media.


That's a difficult call to make, I agree.

Unless Glenn Beck is the media figure in question, in which case: Don't believe him.

I do know what my own eyes tell me, however. The dollar is losing its status as the reserve currency, the Fed now owns more treasury debt than China, and there's no end in sight. The financial situation seems analogous to the Japan melt down situation.


I'm not sure which Japan meltdown situation you mean. But if you mean their "lost decade" recession, I'm pretty sure that they didn't have inflation.

What we have is high unemployment, probably imminent loss of publicly funded support services, income disparity, a stagnant manufacturing base, banks not lending and people not borrowing, the after-effects of the housing-market collapse that left people unprepared to face the afore-listed, and a bunch of other stuff.

No signs of inflation, though.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:56 am

while true inflation may be low, aren't commodity speculators screwing with a lot of prices these days?
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:17 pm

C2W, what are you SMOKING?

You're actually looking at the CPI for signs of inflation? Do you actually keep yourself informed about what's going on in the world?

I mean, c'mon.

Food prices have hit higher prices since the disastrous level of 2008.

I shouldn't even have to link this for you.

But here, just today:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/wal-ma ... -inflation

You might want to get caught up on this subject.

Also, "worthless gold?" It's fiat currency that's worthless. Gold has always been money and always will be.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Canadian_watcher » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:17 pm

I have to agree that they are working really really hard to hide the inflation that's right in front of our faces. Many forms of manipulation going on at once, as usual.

What do you call it when interest rates on debts rise but interest rates on savings fall (or simply never creep above the 1% mark?)

What do you call it when wages have not increased since the early 1970s but prices for the basics have gone up some whopping percentage in the same time period?

What do you call it when food prices go up, oil prices go up, utility prices go up, taxes go up, insurance costs go up, tuition fees go up, and transportation prices go up but electronics, furniture and clothing prices all drop?

I'd say that for the average person there *is* inflation going on. I consider the fact that each time I buy a box of granola bars and the bars inside get smaller to be inflation, even though the price has not increased in the last year or two.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby justdrew » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:03 pm

commodity speculators

and the foreclosure boom is running rent prices through the roof.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Canadian_watcher » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:32 pm

justdrew wrote:...
and the foreclosure boom is running rent prices through the roof.


All the retirees around these parts are buying up anything they can put tenants in since they literally have nowhere to stash their savings. I don't blame them for wanting to get more than 1.5% return, but it's making housing unaffordable for people who are just trying to find somewhere half decent to call home.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby freemason9 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:09 pm

food prices and energy prices are highly volatile and are not normally considered as reliable measures of inflation.

per economic definition, we are not in an inflationary environment.

yes, some prices are higher; that, however, is not the definition of inflation
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Re: 12 Warning Signs of U.S. Hyperinflation

Postby Nordic » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:12 am

dude, the "definition of inflation" as you put it, is total bullshit.
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