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strange case of solar flares - radioactive elements

Postby smiths » Tue May 24, 2011 4:54 am

The strange case of solar flares and radioactive elements

When researchers found an unusual linkage between solar flares and the inner life of radioactive elements on Earth, it touched off a scientific detective investigation that could end up protecting the lives of space-walking astronauts and maybe rewriting some of the assumptions of physics.


It's a mystery that presented itself unexpectedly: The radioactive decay of some elements sitting quietly in laboratories on Earth seemed to be influenced by activities inside the sun, 93 million miles away.

Is this possible?

Researchers from Stanford and Purdue University believe it is. But their explanation of how it happens opens the door to yet another mystery.

There is even an outside chance that this unexpected effect is brought about by a previously unknown particle emitted by the sun. "That would be truly remarkable," said Peter Sturrock, Stanford professor emeritus of applied physics and an expert on the inner workings of the sun.

The story begins, in a sense, in classrooms around the world, where students are taught that the rate of decay of a specific radioactive material is a constant. This concept is relied upon, for example, when anthropologists use carbon-14 to date ancient artifacts and when doctors determine the proper dose of radioactivity to treat a cancer patient.

Random numbers

But that assumption was challenged in an unexpected way by a group of researchers from Purdue University who at the time were more interested in random numbers than nuclear decay. (Scientists use long strings of random numbers for a variety of calculations, but they are difficult to produce, since the process used to produce the numbers has an influence on the outcome.)

Ephraim Fischbach, a physics professor at Purdue, was looking into the rate of radioactive decay of several isotopes as a possible source of random numbers generated without any human input. (A lump of radioactive cesium-137, for example, may decay at a steady rate overall, but individual atoms within the lump will decay in an unpredictable, random pattern. Thus the timing of the random ticks of a Geiger counter placed near the cesium might be used to generate random numbers.)

As the researchers pored through published data on specific isotopes, they found disagreement in the measured decay rates – odd for supposed physical constants.

Checking data collected at Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island and the Federal Physical and Technical Institute in Germany, they came across something even more surprising: long-term observation of the decay rate of silicon-32 and radium-226 seemed to show a small seasonal variation. The decay rate was ever so slightly faster in winter than in summer.

Was this fluctuation real, or was it merely a glitch in the equipment used to measure the decay, induced by the change of seasons, with the accompanying changes in temperature and humidity?

"Everyone thought it must be due to experimental mistakes, because we're all brought up to believe that decay rates are constant," Sturrock said.

The sun speaks

On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare.

If this apparent relationship between flares and decay rates proves true, it could lead to a method of predicting solar flares prior to their occurrence, which could help prevent damage to satellites and electric grids, as well as save the lives of astronauts in space.

The decay-rate aberrations that Jenkins noticed occurred during the middle of the night in Indiana – meaning that something produced by the sun had traveled all the way through the Earth to reach Jenkins' detectors. What could the flare send forth that could have such an effect?

Jenkins and Fischbach guessed that the culprits in this bit of decay-rate mischief were probably solar neutrinos, the almost weightless particles famous for flying at almost the speed of light through the physical world – humans, rocks, oceans or planets – with virtually no interaction with anything.

Then, in a series of papers published in Astroparticle Physics, Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research and Space Science Reviews, Jenkins, Fischbach and their colleagues showed that the observed variations in decay rates were highly unlikely to have come from environmental influences on the detection systems.

Reason for suspicion

Their findings strengthened the argument that the strange swings in decay rates were caused by neutrinos from the sun. The swings seemed to be in synch with the Earth's elliptical orbit, with the decay rates oscillating as the Earth came closer to the sun (where it would be exposed to more neutrinos) and then moving away.

So there was good reason to suspect the sun, but could it be proved?

Enter Peter Sturrock, Stanford professor emeritus of applied physics and an expert on the inner workings of the sun. While on a visit to the National Solar Observatory in Arizona, Sturrock was handed copies of the scientific journal articles written by the Purdue researchers.

Sturrock knew from long experience that the intensity of the barrage of neutrinos the sun continuously sends racing toward Earth varies on a regular basis as the sun itself revolves and shows a different face, like a slower version of the revolving light on a police car. His advice to Purdue: Look for evidence that the changes in radioactive decay on Earth vary with the rotation of the sun. "That's what I suggested. And that's what we have done."

A surprise

Going back to take another look at the decay data from the Brookhaven lab, the researchers found a recurring pattern of 33 days. It was a bit of a surprise, given that most solar observations show a pattern of about 28 days – the rotation rate of the surface of the sun.

The explanation? The core of the sun – where nuclear reactions produce neutrinos – apparently spins more slowly than the surface we see. "It may seem counter-intuitive, but it looks as if the core rotates more slowly than the rest of the sun," Sturrock said.

All of the evidence points toward a conclusion that the sun is "communicating" with radioactive isotopes on Earth, said Fischbach.

But there's one rather large question left unanswered. No one knows how neutrinos could interact with radioactive materials to change their rate of decay.

"It doesn't make sense according to conventional ideas," Fischbach said. Jenkins whimsically added, "What we're suggesting is that something that doesn't really interact with anything is changing something that can't be changed."

"It's an effect that no one yet understands," agreed Sturrock. "Theorists are starting to say, 'What's going on?' But that's what the evidence points to. It's a challenge for the physicists and a challenge for the solar people too."

If the mystery particle is not a neutrino, "It would have to be something we don't know about, an unknown particle that is also emitted by the sun and has this effect, and that would be even more remarkable," Sturrock said.

Chantal Jolagh, a science-writing intern at the Stanford News Service, contributed to this story.

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/augu ... 82310.html
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Re: strange case of solar flares - radioactive elements

Postby elfismiles » Tue May 24, 2011 10:43 am

Interesting ... so, someone needs to see if there is a correlation between the seemingly psychically generated "off-random" events recorded by the Global Consciousness Project (EGG) that have intrigued so many of us and these types of solar flares possibly influencing the random number generators used in the GCP/EGG project.

EDIT EDIT: Am reading the PDF I linked to below and found this:


Anomalous Magnetometer Data on September 11, 2001
Richard Shoup
Boundary Institute
San Jose, California, USA

rshoup@boundary.org

Shoup – SSE, June '10

The data seem to imply that: An eruption occurred on the Sun, travelled to Earth, and globally disturbed the local geomagnetic field at several moments of highly unusual human events.

http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/bi/art ... ag_web.pdf



EDIT: Peter Sturrock, btw, is a long time friend of Jacques Vallee's and founder of SSE:


The Society for Scientific Exploration (SSE) was founded by Peter Sturrock in 1982, and today has approximately 800 members in 45 countries worldwide. Many of Peter's publications appear in the SSE's peer-reviewed journal, the Journal of Scientific Exploration (JSE).

-=-

Peter Sturrock's faculty page at Stanford University
http://www.stanford.edu/group/Sturrock/Peter/
Professional information for professor Sturrock, including University contact information.

The Sturrock Solar Theory Group
http://www.stanford.edu/group/Sturrock/
A vigorous program of research on outstanding solar physics problems involving data analysis, analytical theory, and numerical computation. Ongoing topics of research include the mechanism of the solar cycle, coronal heating, and time-series analysis of solar neutrino data. Part of Stanford's Center for Space & Astrophysics.

Society for Scientific Exploration
http://www.scientificexploration.org/
Founded by Peter Sturrock in 1982, the Society for Scientific Exploration (SSE) is a professional organization of scientists and scholars who study unusual and unexplained phenomena. Subjects often cross mainstream boundaries, such as consciousness, ufos, and alternative medicine, yet often have profound implications for human knowledge and technology. Founded by Peter Sturrock in 1982. The SSE publishes a peer-reviewed journal, the Journal of Scientific Exploration (JSE), and holds annual meetings in the USA and biennial meetings in Europe.



OFFICERS: President Emeriti
Professor Peter A. Sturrock

SSE Talks - Solar Neutrino Anomalies - Peter Sturrock - 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XunFemDq_yA

[PDF] Physics without Causality
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Bancel, Hans Wendt, Rollin McCraty, Peter Sturrock. Shoup – SSE, June '10
http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/bi/art ... ag_web.pdf
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Re: strange case of solar flares - radioactive elements

Postby justdrew » Tue May 24, 2011 12:40 pm

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Postby justdrew » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:23 am

the most alarmist, over-the-top doom-spin I've ever read...

Terrifying scientific discovery: Strange emissions by sun are suddenly mutating matter
Sunday, May 01, 2011 | TERRENCE AYM

For months mounting fear has driven researchers to wring their hands over the approaching solar storms. Some have predicted devastating solar tsunamis that could wipe away our advanced technology, others voiced dire warnings that violent explosions on the surface of the sun could reach out to Earth, breach our magnetic field, and expose billions to high intensity X-rays and other deadly forms of cancer-causing radiation.

Now evidence has surfaced that something potentially more dangerous is happening deep within the hidden core of our life-giving star: never-before-seen particles or some mysterious force is being shot out from the sun and it’s hitting Earth.

Whatever it is, the evidence suggests it’s affecting all matter.


Strange and unknown

Alarmed physicists first became aware of this threat over the past several years. Initially dismissed as an anomaly, now frantic scientists are shooting e-mails back and forth to colleagues across the world attempting to grasp exactly what is happening to the sun.

Something impossible has happened. Yet the “impossible” has been proven to be true. Laboratories around the globe have confirmed that the rate of radioactive decay—once thought to be a constant and a bedrock of science—is no longer a constant. Something being emitted from the sun is interacting with matter in strange and unknown ways with the startling potential to dramatically change the nature of the very Earth itself.

Exactly what has scientists so on edge is the fact that the natural rate of decay of atomic particles has always been predictable. Indeed, using the decay rate of Carbon-14 has been a method to date archeological artifacts. The process, known as carbon dating, measures the quantity of Carbon-14 within organic objects. According to the numbers, Carbon-14 has a specific half-life of 5,730 years.

Physicists have proven through exhaustive observation and experimentation over the course of a century that it takes 5,730 years for Carbon-14 atoms to decay into a stable Nitrogen-14.

The values don’t change—or at least they never have in the past. With certain evidence that radioactive decay can be significantly affected by an unknown effect from the sun, much of science is turned on its head.


Rate of decay speeding up

Worst of all, if the decay rates of matter are being mutated then all matter on Earth is being affected including the matter that makes up life.

The mutation may go so far as to change the underlying reality of the quantum universe—and by extrapolation-the nature of life, the principles of physics, perhaps even the uniform flow of time.

In fact, some evidence of time dilation has been gleaned from close observation of the decay rate. If particles interacting with the matter are not the cause—and matter is being affected by a new force of nature-then time itself may be speeding up and there’s no way to stop it.

Neutrinos the cause?

Researchers have correlated the anomalies in the decay rate to a 33-day period. That time frame matches the 33-day rotation of the solar core. Such a match strains credulity as being a mere coincidence.

Since the sun’s core is known to blast out continuous streams of particles called neutrinos, some scientists are attempting to find evidence that neutrinos are the culprits behind the mutation of matter.

There’s a problem with that hypothesis, however, as neutrinos are like ghost particles. They’re extremely difficult to detect. Normally, neutrinos pass through the Earth without any interaction at all. To a neutrino, it’s as if the Earth doesn’t exist.

Other than discovering a previously unknown property of neutrinos, or finding a new particle altogether, the possibility exists that no particle is behind the changes recorded in the radioactive decay rates. What could be causing the phenomenon is a previously unknown force.

Unknown dangers

As the sun builds towards solar maximum and a period of dangerous intensity never experienced by any living person inexorably approaches, strange, uncontrollable forces could be building deep within its fiery nuclear furnace.

It’s already been proven that the sun’s mass warps time, bends light waves and accounts for mutation of species on Earth. Now this new force may be directly interacting with matter in a way that could not only change Mankind’s understanding of physics, but change Mankind itself…and not necessarily in a beneficial way.

Yes, the e-mails will continue to fly and the hands will continue to wring. But in the end, we are all just observers.

Whether the phenomenon has no real impact on humanity, or the worst impact imaginable, nothing can be done to stop it. Once again, the titanic forces of nature rear up to overwhelm our technology—and we find ourselves like the playthings of gods.

Utterly helpless.
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Re: strange case of solar flares - radioactive elements

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:09 pm

Great thread, really enjoyed reading these stories. Such a great demo for cognitive bias, too, because the alarm in these stories is absurd when you break it down: "Because we just discovered this, it must have just started happening! WHAT ARE THE POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES?" It's just a fact of live our here on the quantum foam, daug! Always has been always will be.

The fact that we live in a liquid medium and exist bathing in a massive ocean of invisible energy should be a starting point in kindergarten. Cartesian space and imaginary physics thought experiment "Closed Systems" are instead taught as metaphors for reality, and well, look where that gets us.

I know it's a personal vendetta I should really let go, but: ESP makes a lot more sense when you consider the vast, charged ocean of space/solar energy as the means of transmission.
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Postby hanshan » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:18 pm

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Wombaticus Rex wrote:Great thread, really enjoyed reading these stories. Such a great demo for cognitive bias, too, because the alarm in these stories is absurd when you break it down: "Because we just discovered this, it must have just started happening! WHAT ARE THE POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES?" It's just a fact of live our here on the quantum foam, daug! Always has been always will be.

The fact that we live in a liquid medium and exist bathing in a massive ocean of invisible energy should be a starting point in kindergarten. Cartesian space and imaginary physics thought experiment "Closed Systems" are instead taught as metaphors for reality, and well, look where that gets us.

I know it's a personal vendetta I should really let go, but: ESP makes a lot more sense when you consider the vast, charged ocean of space/solar energy as the means of transmission.


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Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:52 am

'Controlled' power cuts likely as Sun storm threatens national grid
Monday, 13 June 2011
By Steve Connor, Science Editor, in Boulder, Colorado

Officials in Britain and the United States are preparing to make controlled power cuts to their national electricity supplies in response to a warning of a possible powerful solar storm hitting the Earth. In an interview with The Independent, Thomas Bogdan, director of the US Space Weather Prediction Centre, said that controlled power "outages" will protect the National Electricity Grids against damage which could take months or even years to repair should a large solar storm collide with the Earth without any precautions being taken.

Dr Bogdan is in close discussions with scientists in the UK Met Office to set up a second space weather prediction centre in Britain to co-ordinate a global response to a threat viewed seriously by both the US and UK governments. One topic of discussion is how to protect national electricity grids from the immense power surges caused by the geomagnetic storms which happen when highly energetic solar particles collide with the Earth's magnetic field.

The most vulnerable parts of the grid are the hundreds of transformers connected to power lines many miles long that can experience sudden current surges during a geomagnetic solar storm, Dr Bogdan said. "It points to a potential scenario where large parts of either North America or northern Europe may be without power from between days or weeks, to perhaps months and, in extreme cases, there are estimates that it could last years," Dr Bogdan said.

The aim of the joint US-UK collaboration is to improve solar weather forecasting to a point where it is possible to warn power companies of an imminent storm. There is a feeling that if a "category 5" solar storm – the biggest of the five categories – were to be predicted, then taking the grid off-line before it is due to hit Earth and letting the storm pass would be better than trying to keep things running, he said.

In 1989, a solar geomagentic storm knocked out the electricity grid across large parts of Canada. The loss cascaded across the United States and caused power problems as far away as California. The greatest fear is a massive storm as big as the one documented by astronomer Richard Carrington in 1859, which burnt out telegraph wires.

"The sort of storms capable of doing that are fairly rare events. We refer to them as 'black swans'," Dr Bogdan said. "If the Carrington event occurred today, and power grid operators did not take efforts to safeguard their infrastructure, then we could be facing a scenario like that."

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Re: strange case of solar flares - radioactive elements

Postby Allegro » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:51 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:... The fact that we live in a liquid medium and exist bathing in a massive ocean of invisible energy should be a starting point in kindergarten...
Yes :!:.

Thanks, smiths, for the original OP. During unscheduled times for reading articles and RI posts I've missed, there's that sigh of relief when reading about the sun, and then there are neutrinos, which makes the read so much more like savoring melting chocolate.

I guess too there's always a chance that something like rhythms might be noticed and assumptions written. A cosmologist once noted during a lecture that he thought the music of the physical universe was locked in rocks. That was a palm to my forehead. What does music of the physical universe look and sound like? Since then, I've longed for the day when the physical sciences come out of the closet with regard to specific topics of rhythms and vibrations, you know, those ideas not nearly imaginable until expounded, even a little. Maybe art forms will pull the dots together—for the scientists!
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Postby BenDhyan » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:46 pm

Time-Lapse Video Reveals 10 Years of the Sun’s Life Crushed into One Stellar Hour

While we have these rare moments when the Sun changes in appearance to us, the Sun is actively changing in appearance all the time. The Sun follows an 11-year cycle between which the magnetic north and south poles of the Sun actually flip. The beginning of each cycle is called a solar minimum. Solar minimum is marked with reduced solar activity like sunspots; cooler “spots” (still larger than Earth) or regions on the Sun’s surface that appear dark in contrast to the brighter hotter regions. The middle of the 11-year cycle is the solar maximum marked by increased solar activity and sunspots. The increased activity can also create coronal mass ejections – huge eruptions of hot plasma into space. Now we can see a whole decade of living Sun all crammed into a one hour time-lapse video made using half a BILLION pictures taken by the orbiting Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) in SPAAAACE!

Here’s the mind crushing video. Behold…ten years of our Sun…a living STAR!



https://www.universetoday.com/146991/time-lapse-video-reveals-10-years-of-the-suns-life-crushed-into-one-stellar-hour/

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Postby Harvey » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:08 pm

Wow, thanks.
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