Huge explosion in Oslo

[Asta]

I saw a new photo of Breivik today, and again, I am dumb struck at how symmetrical his features are. This was mentioned in earlier posts as I recall, but this latest photo seems even creepier considering the ruling that he is "insane".

Are they keeping him alive to harvest his DNA? Seriously. This man makes 007 look like a boy scout when it comes to planning a blood fest.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/29/world/eur ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Is this the face of a real person? His ears are not a perfect match, but damn, he looks so plastic.

[MacCruiskeen]

This is a long thread, but it's worth re-reading from the start. I never thought this guy would ever come to trial, any more than Lee Harvey Oswald ever did.

- And thanks, stickdog99, for your persistence.

[Plutonia]

Timing.

Twinning again.

Or at least still attempting to link Breivik with Assange, though that meme never caught on - this vid only got a couple of hundred views though it's the second link in an "Assange Breivick" Google search - though maybe it has in other languages?, Anyway here it is:



Assange has been getting lots of skewed press in Sweden recently. And he recently won that big award in Oz. And he's probably going to be extradited soon.

BTW, Prof Ferradanoli, a Swede, has written extensively about the Swedish smear campaign as well as the political/judicial chicanery here: http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2011/1 ... ulian.html

[RobinDaHood]

Jarl Robert Christensen, who lost his 15-year-old daughter on the island, hailed that the psychiatric conclusions were "the worst possible" for Behring Breivik, who considers himself a great thinker.

This "pulverises his whole ideology, and I feel good about that," he told the commercial TV2 News Channel.

"But for us, no punishment will ever be enough," he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-gunman-may-avoid-prison-prosecutor-140039425.html

[Bruce Dazzling]

Peter Dale Scott - Red Ice - Hour 1 - Norway's Massacre, Breivik & Deep Events

December 1, 2011
Peter Dale Scott, a former Canadian diplomat and English Professor at the University of California, Berkeley, is a poet, writer, and researcher. He was born in Montreal in 1929. An anti-war speaker during the Vietnam and Gulf Wars, he was a co-founder of the Peace and Conflict Studies Program at UC Berkeley, and of the Coalition on Political Assassinations (COPA). He is the author of several books including, The War Conspiracy (1972), The Iran-Contra Connection (1987),Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central America (1991, 1998), Drugs Oil and War (2003), The Road to 9/11 (2007), and The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War (2008). In the first hour we revisit Breivik's attack on Norway. We discuss his possible motivations, his connections and his alignment with Nick Greger. Peter explains why he refers to these attacks as "deep events" and gives examples of other systemic deep events. We'll discuss false flag attacks as a strategy to bring in a new agenda. Peter points out similarities to Operation Gladio and Breivik's model of attack.

[No_Baseline]

It's weird, the Norway Spiral was something I was looking up today, to see if there was any additional information on it, and I didn't put together the timeframe of the spiral sighting to the Norway explosion and camp massacre a year and a half later...it's reminding me an awful lot of the timeframe of the original Mothman sightings, in 1966, and the Silver Bridge collapse a year or so later...

[DrEvil]

From wikipedia :
A similar, though less spectacular event had also occurred in Norway the month before.[6] Both events had the expected visual features of failed flights of Russian RSM-56 Bulava missiles,[7][8] and the Russian Defence Ministry acknowledged shortly after that such an event had taken place on December 9.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway_spiral

If you want unexplained lights from Norway, look here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessdalen_light

[barracuda]

Mass-killer's testimony will not be broadcast, court rules

Norway's mass-killer Anders Behring Breivik will be forbidden from reading in court a new political manifesto he wrote in prison, and his testimony will not be broadcast live like the rest of his trial, judges have ruled.

Breivik's trial over the killing of 77 people in related terror attacks last July was due to begin early tonight, AEST, with authorities concerned that he be restrained from using the hearing as a soap-box to air his extreme right-wing views.

Earlier this month a pre-trial interview that he was negotiating with US news service CNN was shelved after the talks were revealed in Norwegian media.

The trial will begin with opening addresses by lawyers but then Breivik will have five days in which to give his own evidence. He has confessed to the killings but claims he is not guilty on the grounds of self-defense.

He told police the attacks on government buildings in Oslo and on a Labor Party youth camp on Utoya Island were pay-back to Norway's left wing for having allowed immigration. Breivik's original manifesto, posted on the internet just before his assaults, attacked what he called “the Islamicisation” of Europe.

His chief defence lawyer, Geir Lippestad, has warned Norwegians to brace themselves for Breivik's testimony because his only regret was that he did not kill more people. “He will not only defend [what he did] but will also lament, I think, not going further.”

The mental state of Breivik, 33, will be a central question for the judges. An initial assessment by two psychiatrists concluded he had paranoid schizophrenia, which would mean he was not legally responsible for his crimes. Breivik, who denies he is insane, called this diagnosis “the ultimate humiliation”.

A new assessment delivered last week by a second team of doctors diagnosed him instead as having narcissistic personality disorder. This means he has grandiose ideas of his own importance and a sense that he is special, and that he lacks empathy - but that he is sane.

The Oslo District Court has built a special room that can seat 200 to hold the trial. Spectators will include some of the 800 international journalists accredited to cover the proceedings as well as survivors and relatives of victims.

Thick glass partitions will separate victims and families from Breivik, and police are expected to seal off streets around the court building.

Breivik told police he was part of a larger organisation modelled after medieval crusaders the Knights Templar but police believe he acted alone.

The trial is expected to last for 10 weeks.

[Saurian Tail]

This is the first time I have seen a video of Breivik talking:

Anders Behring Breivik, Norway Mass Killer, Trial Begins
By KARL RITTER 04/16/12 05:34 AM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/1 ... 26721.html

OSLO, Norway -- The right-wing fanatic behind a bomb-and-shooting massacre that killed 77 people in Norway admitted to the "acts" on Monday but pleaded not guilty to criminal charges, saying he was acting in self-defense.

Anders Behring Breivik defiantly rejected the authority of the court as he went on trial for the July 22 attacks that shocked the peaceful nation and jolted the image of terrorism in Europe.

Dressed in a dark suit and sporting a thin beard along his jawline, Breivik smiled as a guard removed his handcuffs in the crowded court room. The 33-year-old then flashed a closed-fist salute, before shaking hands with prosecutors and court officials.

"I don't recognize Norwegian courts because you get your mandate from the Norwegian political parties who support multiculturalism," Breivik said in his first comments to the court.

He remained stone-faced and motionless as prosecutor Inga Bejer Engh read his indictment on terror and premeditated murder charges, with descriptions of how each victim died. Eight were killed in a bombing in Oslo's government district and 69 in a shooting massacre at the left-leaning Labor Party's youth camp on Utoya island outside the capital.

"I admit to the acts, but not criminal guilt," he told the court, and said he had acted in self-defense.

Breivik also said he doesn't recognize the authority of Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen, because he said she is friends with the sister of former Norwegian Prime Minister and Labor Party leader Gro Harlem Brundtland.

The anti-Muslim militant described himself as a writer, currently working from prison, when asked by the judge for his employment status.

Breivik has said the attacks were necessary to protect Norway from being taken over by Muslims. He claims he targeted the government headquarters in Oslo and the youth camp to strike against the left-leaning political forces he blames for allowing immigration in Norway.

While there is a principle of preventive self-defense in Norwegian law, it doesn't apply to Breivik's case, said Jarl Borgvin Doerre, a legal expert, who has written a book about the concept.

"It is obvious that it has nothing to do with preventive self-defense," Doerre told The Associated Press.

The key issue to be resolved during the 10-week trial is the state of Breivik's mental health, which will decide whether he is sent to prison or to psychiatric care.

If deemed mentally competent, he would face a maximum prison sentence of 21 years or an alternate custody arrangement under which the sentence is prolonged for as long as an inmate is deemed a danger to society.

Police sealed off the streets around the court building, where journalists, survivors and relatives of victims watched the proceedings in a 200-seat courtroom built specifically for the trial.

Thick glass partitions were put up to separate the defendant from victims and their families, many of whom are worried that Breivik will use the trial to promote his extremist political ideology. In a manifesto he published online before the attacks, Breivik wrote that "patriotic resistance fighters" should use trials "as a platform to further our cause."

Norway's NRK television will broadcast parts of the trial, but it is not allowed to show Breivik's testimony.

He had told investigators he is a resistance fighter in a far-right militant group modeled after the Knights Templar – a Western Christian order that fought during the crusades – but police have found no trace of the organization and say he acted alone.

"In our opinion such a network does not exist," Prosecutor Svein Holden told the court.

Anxious to prove he is not insane, he has called right-wing extremists and radical Islamists to testify during the trial, to show that there are others who share his view of clashing civilizations.

Breivik surrendered to police 1 hour and 20 minutes after he arrived on Utoya. The police response was slowed by a series of mishaps, including the lack of an operating police helicopter and the breakdown of an overloaded boat carrying a commando team to the island.

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Associated Press writers Bjoern H. Amland and Julia Gronnevet contributed to this report.

[Pierre d'Achoppement]

Breiviks defence team:

Understandably, Hen Baera is irritated. "What is very weird is that we're working on this very serious case, and suddenly there is all this focus on a photograph of us." She insists the quartet had merely been walking from their offices to the courthouse. Since it was on the way, they agreed to be interviewed and photographed at the headquarters of VG, a major Norwegian newspaper. "It took 15 minutes – that was all we had time for. We didn't think about how the photographer was taking the picture. He just told us to sit on the sofa." Effortlessly cool, then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcu ... ime-drama#

[barracuda]

[barracuda]

The Guardian is live blogging the trial here.

Anders Behring Breivik has described his killing spree last summer as "the most sophisticated and spectacular political attack committed in Europe since the second world war".

The 33-year-old made the claims in a written statement he was allowed to read to the court on the second day of his trial – an unusual demand granted only because he refused to give evidence conventionally otherwise.

The rambling text, which he claimed he had "self censored" out of respect for the bereaved sitting in court, attempted to justify what he had done in the name of "revolutionary nationalism".

He expressed no regret for planning and carrying out the attacks that left 77 dead last summer. Maintaining he acted out of "goodness, not evil" to prevent a "major civil war", Breivik insisted: "I would have done it again."

He identified as his enemy the "cultural Marxists" who he said had destroyed Norway by using it as "a dumping ground for the surplus births of the third world". Claiming Norwegians would be a minority in their own capital "within five years", he blamed liberal politicians for bringing about Norway's demise with "feminism, quotas … transforming the church, schools".

The 69 people, many of them teenagers, who died on the island of Utøya when he opened fire on the youth camp of the ruling Labour party were "not innocent", he claimed.

"They were not innocent, non-political children; these were young people who worked to actively uphold multicultural values. Many people had leading positions in the leading Labour party youth wing," he said, going on to compare the Labour party's youth wing (AUF) with the Hitler Youth.

He quoted from a variety of sources to support his case, including, he said, a story written in the Times in February 2010 which he said reported that "three out of five Englishmen believe that the UK has turned into a dysfunctional society as a result of multiculturalism". The Guardian was unable to find evidence of such an article.

Breivik told the court that "ridiculous" lies had been told about him, rattling off a list which accused him of being a narcissist who was obsessed with the red jumper he wore to his first court hearing, of having a "bacterial phobia", "an incestuous relationship with my mother", "of being a child killer despite no one who died on Utøya being under 14".

He was not insane, he repeated many times. He claimed it was Norway's politicians who should be locked up in the sort of mental institution in which he can expect to spend the rest of his life if the court declares him criminally insane at the end of the 10-week trial.

Breivik said: "They expect us to applaud our ethnic and cultural doom … They should be characterised as insane, not me. Why is this the real insanity? This is the real insanity because it is not rational to work to deconstruct one's own ethnic group, culture and religion."

Breivik insisted he was not alone in fighting against "mass immigration". He singled out as examples the National Socialist Underground, the neo-Nazi terror cell responsible for killing nine immigrants and one policewoman in Germany, and Peter Mangs, the man suspected of carrying out a seven-year killing spree in the Swedish city of Malmö.

He said that these "heroic young people" should be celebrated for sacrificing their lives for the conservative revolution. He said that "the three most powerful politicians in Europe" shared his views, saying: "Sarkozy, Merkel and Cameron have all noted that multiculturalism doesn't work."

At the start of Tuesday's court session, one of the five judges was dismissed from the panel after it emerged he had posted a message on Facebook last year saying the "death penalty is the only just thing to do in this case". Thomas Indebro, 33, one of three ordinary Norwegians sitting as a "lay judge" alongside two professionals, stepped down and was replaced.

Breivik has five days to explain why he set off a bomb in Oslo's government district, killing eight, and then gunned down 69 on Utøya. He denies criminal guilt, saying he was acting out of "necessity". On Tuesday the court-appointed interpreters issued a correction to their translation of Breivik's not guilty plea on Monday.

He is not claiming to have acted out of "self defence", as originally reported, but using a defence under section 47 of the Norwegian penal code, which states: "No person may be punished for any act that he has committed in order to save someone's person or property from an otherwise unavoidable danger when the circumstances justified him in regarding this danger as particularly significant in relation to the damage that might be caused by his act."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ap ... t-innocent

[Nordic]

Breivik has five days to explain why he set off a bomb in Oslo's government district, killing eight, and then gunned down 69 on Utøya.

I'd like to see the word "why" replaced with the word "how".

Some time has gone by, and now, looking at this, my mind thinks "how the hell did he pull that off all by himself?"

First thing that jumps out at me.

How do you drive two cars to one place?

[barracuda]

Image released at the trial of Breivik immediately after his arrest on Utoya:



No handcuffs?

How do you drive two cars to one place?

Where does the "two cars" notion come from?

[Nordic]

Where does the "two cars" notion come from?

You get up in the morning and your plan is to set off a car bomb in Oslo, then drive to the island, hop a ferry while loaded with huge amounts of firepower, right?

So you drive your car to Oslo, the one that's going to blow up and .... DOH! Damn the other one, with all the guns and scuba gear in it, that you need to get to the island to slaughter all those people, is back at home in the driveway.

So ... what, you take a cab back to the other car?

Or do you carry all those big-ass guns with you through Oslo, catch a cab, and go to the island, catch the ferry while telling people "hey don't mind all those guns in the duffel bag" ......

You know ....

I know I could go back to that OTHER thread and relive all of it, but been there, done that. This is what just strikes me right now, with a fresh mindset onto the thing.