Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby operator kos » Tue May 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Congrats on the book, Smiles!
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby RocketMan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:22 am

elfismiles » Mon May 22, 2017 9:39 pm wrote:... and in other UFO news ...

Kurt Russell was the civil pilot witness to the phoenix lights UFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_dxZJGWfU


I was about to berate you for beating me to it but it was actually a month ago. :lol2: :lol2:

Just found this. I find Russell to be an eminently sympathetic guy and a good actor... though he apparently is pretty right wing. Anyhoo. Jon Voight is a GREAT actor (doing some awesome work on Ray Donovan as we speak) but he's a real nutjob and Russell can't possibly be that bad.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby RocketMan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:23 am

And w00t!!!! CONGRATS on the book, elfi!

Whoooooooo!
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:00 pm

Thank you operator kos and Rocket Man!

RocketMan » 17 Jun 2017 10:23 wrote:And w00t!!!! CONGRATS on the book, elfi!

Whoooooooo!


More promotions for the book ...

"UFOs: Reframing The Debate" Book Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hfvdzkzTU0



‘UFOs: Reframing the Debate’: The Complete Introduction
Robbie Graham - June 17, 2017
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/06/u ... roduction/

The Paracast with host Gene Steinberg and Guest Co-Host Curt Collins interviewing MJ Banias, June 18, 2017
http://www.podtrac.net/pts/redirect.mp3 ... 170618.mp3

See You On The Other Side 148 - UFOs: Reframing The Debate Part 1 with Robbie Graham and Mike Clelland - June 13, 2017
http://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2017/0 ... -clelland/

Beyond the Darkness with guests Robbie Graham & Susan Demeter-St. Clair.
https://www.podcastone.com/episode/UFOs ... -1740586-1

Carol Rosin Show with Robbie Graham and SMiles Lewis (recorded June 12, 2017) re-aired on 06/16/2017
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/arc ... 061617.mp3

The Paracast with host Gene Steinberg and Co-Host Chris O'Brien interviewing Robbie Graham and Robert Brandstetter, June 11, 2017
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3 ... 170611.mp3

Radio Misterioso: Greg Bishop hosts - Reframing the Debate Roundtable #1 – What Are We Reframing? with Red Pill Junkie, Susan Demeter-St. Clair, & SMiles Lewis.
Posted on June 7, 2017
http://radiomisterioso.com/audio/StClai ... 6_4_17.mp3

Radio Misterioso: Greg Bishop hosts - Robbie Graham – Reframing the Debate.
Posted on May 29, 2017
http://radiomisterioso.com/audio/Robbie ... 5_8_17.mp3


Pre Book Release interviews amongst some contributors...

Radio Misterioso: Greg Bishop hosts - Susan Demeter-St. Clair – Witness-Centered Anomalies Study
Posted on May 3, 2017
http://radiomisterioso.com/audio/Susan_ ... _24_17.mp3

Radio Misterioso: Greg Bishop hosts - MJ Banias – Paradigm Shift
Posted on March 31, 2017
http://radiomisterioso.com/audio/MJ_Banias_3_19_17.mp3


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UFOs: Reframing the Debate
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1786770237/


CONTENTS:

* FOREWORD by Professor DIANA PASULKA

* INTRODUCTION by editor ROBBIE GRAHAM

* OUR ALIEN, WHO ART IN HEAVEN by CHRIS RUTKOWSKI

* THE EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT by MIKE CLELLAND

* THE FUTURE LEADS TO THE PAST by JACK BREWER

* IN FOR A PENNY, IN FOR A POUND: MOVING UFOLOGY BEYOND MATERIALISM by JOSHUA CUTCHIN

* TOWARD A BETTER UFOLOGY: APPLYING SCIENCE TO THE STUDY OF UAP by MICAH HANKS

* ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT FLYING SAUCERS IS WRONG by LORIN CUTTS

* WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? by CURT COLLINS

* TRUFO VS. UFAUX: PLANETARY POLTERGEISTS & WEAPONS OF MASS ENCHANTMENT by SMILES LEWIS

* UFOS AND MODERN CAPITALISM: DISSENT, DISENFRANCHISEMENT, AND THE FRINGE by MJ BANIAS

* ANARCHY IN THE UFO! by RED PILL JUNKIE
MAKING MOUNTAINS OUT OF MASHED POTATOES:

* UFOS AS A PARAPSYCHOLOGICAL EVENT by SUSAN DEMETER-ST. CLAIR

* FRANKENSTEIN & FLYING SAUCERS: CREATING, DESTROYING,
AND RE-ANIMATING A PHENOMENAL MONSTER by RYAN SPRAGUE

* THE CO-CREATION HYPOTHESIS: HUMAN PERCEPTION, THE INFORMATIONAL UNIVERSE, AND THE OVERHAUL OF UFO RESEARCH by GREG BISHOP

* DISCOVERING OUR HUMANITY IN THE ALIEN OTHER by ROBERT BRANDSTETTER
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby identity » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:18 pm

Congrats, SMiles—the book looks like a great read!—and many thanks for all the podcast links.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby Elvis » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:19 pm

Sold!
I'm busted flat just now but I put it in my Amazon wish list for the next time I have the spare clams.

Have you thought about trying for an appearance on "Coast to Coast AM"? These days they'll put on anyone who writes a 'woo' book. :wink

But seriously, I bet you could get on (call Dan the producer, or better, if you have a publicist for the book, have them call). It might be more than you want (or can stand), but you'd get great free publicity for the book, and, well, sell a ton of books overnight.

Wishing you all success with the book. :sun:
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:55 pm

Thank you elvis and identity!

Another freshly squeezed interview about the book that I've not listened to yet...

​UFO Disclosure and the Close Encounter WItness - Strieber interviews Graham about Reframing UFO Debate
http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland ... er-witness
http://strieber.streamguys1.com/dreamla ... 3_17fr.mp3
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:00 pm

Actually ... Robbie was already on Coast to Coast AM promoting the book ... we have a "man on the inside." <grin> :coolshades

Pierre Hotel Robbery/ Rethinking UFOs
Date: Sunday - May 28, 2017
Host: George Knapp
Guests: Daniel Simone, Robbie Graham, Greg Bishop
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2017/05/28
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Elvis » 19 Jun 2017 00:19 wrote:Sold!
I'm busted flat just now but I put it in my Amazon wish list for the next time I have the spare clams.

Have you thought about trying for an appearance on "Coast to Coast AM"? These days they'll put on anyone who writes a 'woo' book. :wink

But seriously, I bet you could get on (call Dan the producer, or better, if you have a publicist for the book, have them call). It might be more than you want (or can stand), but you'd get great free publicity for the book, and, well, sell a ton of books overnight.

Wishing you all success with the book. :sun:
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:36 am

The State of UFOlogy in 2017 ...

I'm here in Roswell, New Mexico for the 70th Anniversary (of what I believe was most likely the crash and cover-up of a horrific covert American human experiment operation combined with advanced aviation research programs).

There are 2 UFO conferences happening - actually 4-Conferences if you count the events at the UFO Museum and the city's Convention Center.

Here's some of the coverage so far ...

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Roswell UFO Festival opens with conspiracy theorists
Adrian C Hedden , Carlsbad Current-Argus Published 6:19 p.m. MT June 29, 2017
http://www.currentargus.com/story/news/ ... 441232001/

Roswell invaded as UFO festival begins
Leonard Tapia
June 29, 2017 06:35 PM
http://www.kob.com/new-mexico-news/rosw ... l/4529666/

Crashing the party: Roswell celebrates 70th anniversary of UFO incident
By Ollie Reed Jr. / Journal Staff Writer
Sunday, June 25th, 2017 at 12:02am
https://www.abqjournal.com/1023363/cras ... party.html

... and back last year from UFO skeptic Bob Sheaffer:

Roswell: Two UFO Conferences Coming Up in 2017 - SIMULTANEOUSLY!
Tuesday, November 29, 2016
http://badufos.blogspot.com/2016/11/ros ... ng-up.html
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby semper occultus » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:15 pm

elfismiles » 30 Jun 2017 13:36 wrote:I'm here in Roswell, New Mexico

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..which one are you ...?
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm

semper occultus » 30 Jun 2017 17:15 wrote:
elfismiles » 30 Jun 2017 13:36 wrote:I'm here in Roswell, New Mexico

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..which one are you ...?


Well ... I gained a few pounds while there so probly more like the guy on the right ... but I probly envision myself more like the second from left; ie - "sexxxy!" :partydance:
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby SonicG » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:22 am

I have to admit that I haven't paid much attention to UFOlogy after getting heavy into Streiber in the 90s...But I watched the Stan Romanek documentary on Netflix last night...Actually, I started it and had to double-check it was a doc. and not some Alien Blair Witch (although, it actually is just that)...Then I got spoiled on the pedo charges (which I now see were brought up earlier in this thread) but it didn't detract from the movie. It's highly entertaining, I'll say that...Deep-cover intelligence agent? Mind-controlled dupe? Clever faqir?? But his wife...er, both of them...and the various "Phd.s" who are trotted out...Each one a true character...It's on the level of a low-energy version of the improvised Christopher Guest movies...And you know, you still have to love the sentiment, at the end of the long weird day of being probed, punched, and enlightened...The message is: We are not alone...If we all only just realized that...
It is a rich situation either way...Would love to see a film on just the whole back story if, say, he hoaxed it all...The self-mutilation, the siding guys, the alien puppet (blinking eyes!)...

Plus...this is a recent interesting twist to his case:
The Trials of Detective Brian Koopman

That erased hard drive prompted the next bizarre chapter in the saga, when it emerged that Tammy Fisher (a former Loveland police officer) had befriended the Romaneks during 2012 and 2013, and had met with them as well as exchanged text messages with Lisa Romanek “at critical times” during the child pornography investigation.

Koopman suspected that Fisher had tipped off the Romaneks to an impending search of their home, culminating in the hard drive being wiped; he subsequently applied for a search warrant on Fisher’s phone records, but the investigation of his former colleague did not progress.

Fisher then sued Koopman and Loveland Police Chief Luke Hecker alleging malicious prosecution without probable cause, and accused Hecker of improperly training and supervising Koopman. After a protracted legal battle, the US Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit ruled in May 2017 that a District Court had been right to dismiss Fisher’s case.

Adding fuel to the Romaneks’ claims of police and government corruption and cover-up, Detective Brian Koopman has been the subject of other allegations in the intervening years. In April 2016, he was eventually cleared on charges of attempting to influence a public official as part of a 2013 murder investigation, the Loveland Reporter-Herald reported:

The testimony in question is one in which Koopman discussed a Walgreens surveillance video in a preliminary hearing to establish probable cause for the stalking charge pressed against Wallace. Koopman said during the September 2014 hearing that Wallace was in the store at the same time that Gray and her friend Gabrielle Burlingham were, approximately three days before Gray was murdered in her home.

He filed a corrective affidavit on the same day Wallace pleaded guilty. Prosecuting attorneys argued he lied in that document when he stated the various reasons for his initial inaccurate testimony.
In January 2017, a U.S. District Court judge dismissed a long-running lawsuit against Koopman by Joshua Myers, who claimed the detective violated his constitutional rights during a 2007 arrest on suspicion of running a meth lab when Koopman was an investigator in the Larimer County Drugs Task Force.

The investigation collapsed and Myers was released after a lab test revealed that a substance seized during the arrest was sugar, not methamphetamine.

Stan Romanek has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him. His wife Lisa has vowed to make extraterrestrial conspiracy theories a part of the trial, saying “We will be taking UFOlogy into the courtroom.” It remains to be seen whether Romanek’s attorneys will also make the trials of Brian Koopman a part of the defense.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/07/11/stan-romanek/


More info. here from Feb. this year:
http://www.reporterherald.com/news/love ... manek-case
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:34 am

Ditto ... watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it, even while I suspect much of his evidence and testimony is faked. I'd love to see a close examination of all his stunts.

Some coverage by my new friend (and fellow "Reframer") Jack Brewer over at his UFO-Trail blog:

Relevant Web Links on Romanek Case
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2015/03/re ... -case.html

Romanek Incredibly Claims He Discredited Himself as Instructed During Death Threat
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2015/07/ro ... ms-he.html

Romanek Trial Delayed
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2015/09/ro ... layed.html

Judge Denies Defense Request in Romanek Case
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2015/10/ju ... manek.html

Romanek Pleads Not Guilty, Trial Scheduled
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2016/03/ro ... trial.html

SonicG » 12 Jul 2017 10:22 wrote:I have to admit that I haven't paid much attention to UFOlogy after getting heavy into Streiber in the 90s...But I watched the Stan Romanek documentary on Netflix last night...Actually, I started it and had to double-check it was a doc. and not some Alien Blair Witch (although, it actually is just that)...Then I got spoiled on the pedo charges (which I now see were brought up earlier in this thread) but it didn't detract from the movie. It's highly entertaining, I'll say that...Deep-cover intelligence agent? Mind-controlled dupe? Clever faqir?? But his wife...er, both of them...and the various "Phd.s" who are trotted out...Each one a true character...It's on the level of a low-energy version of the improvised Christopher Guest movies...And you know, you still have to love the sentiment, at the end of the long weird day of being probed, punched, and enlightened...The message is: We are not alone...If we all only just realized that...
It is a rich situation either way...Would love to see a film on just the whole back story if, say, he hoaxed it all...The self-mutilation, the siding guys, the alien puppet (blinking eyes!)...

Plus...this is a recent interesting twist to his case:
The Trials of Detective Brian Koopman
<snip>
http://www.snopes.com/2017/07/11/stan-romanek/


More info. here from Feb. this year:
http://www.reporterherald.com/news/love ... manek-case
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:05 am

just saw this, congrats! Is there a page or few paragraphs of it online?

the first recent time I had my mind blown with UFOlogy was reading posts about UFO/Roswell in relation to Jack Parsons and the trinity tests, as well as older work revisited
regarding Vallee and others connecting UFOs to the metaphysical from nuts and bolts. But in 2017, definitely excited to here a whole new 'reframing' going on! Also dug the teaser on youtube

By the way, MIND BLOWN....is that real about Kurt Russell?

In 2007 I was fascinated by this esoteric speculative vlogger named Jake Kotze who often figured Kurt Russel into his metaphysical conspiracy videos
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

Postby NeonLX » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:20 pm

8bitagent » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:05 am wrote:just saw this, congrats! Is there a page or few paragraphs of it online?

the first recent time I had my mind blown with UFOlogy was reading posts about UFO/Roswell in relation to Jack Parsons and the trinity tests, as well as older work revisited
regarding Vallee and others connecting UFOs to the metaphysical from nuts and bolts. But in 2017, definitely excited to here a whole new 'reframing' going on! Also dug the teaser on youtube

By the way, MIND BLOWN....is that real about Kurt Russell?

In 2007 I was fascinated by this esoteric speculative vlogger named Jake Kotze who often figured Kurt Russel into his metaphysical conspiracy videos


Holy cats! I hadn't seen that video since...probably 2007 or 2008.

And then there's mention of red_pill_junkie earlier in this thread. He and I go way back. Very odd story, that. I'm spending the rest of the afternoon unpacking a bunch of stuff that has remained dormant in the back of my mind for decades.
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