ConcreteJungle wrote:These types of threads make me see how mindfucked much of the population is. I'm inclined to say fuck NASA, fuck space, and fuck ET. I want any future kids of mine to have a place to live and worrying about this shit won't get us there.
Laodicean wrote:ConcreteJungle wrote:These types of threads make me see how mindfucked much of the population is. I'm inclined to say fuck NASA, fuck space, and fuck ET. I want any future kids of mine to have a place to live and worrying about this shit won't get us there.
Fuck that mindset.
MacCruiskeen wrote:The case is unique (so far as I know) in three main ways:
1/ It is the only close-encounter I'm aware of that was investigated as such by the police - the incident
was even listed as a "common assault", which means charges could potentially be brought against whoever/whatever did
it in the courts. (!!!)
2/ There was quite a lot of physical evidence, for once - unusual tears in the clothing of the victim, and quite extensive
markings on the ground - and all of this was logged not by the victim, or UFO researchers, or local journalists, but by the
police themselves, who back up the victim's story in it's entirety. There has been an attempt to preserve the area it
3/ The victim, Robert Taylor, seemed wholly reliable and pretty motiveless if he was lying, and was otherwise totally
uninterested in UFOs beyond this one incident. He never changed his story in any way over nearly forty years, never
asked for payment or courted publicity (tried to avoid it in fact), and was believed by pretty much everyone who heard him tell the tale, which he didn't often.
barracuda wrote:The funny thing is that while the military has controlled the UFO information flow since WW2, the true high strangeness has melted into the morass and become nearly impossible to discriminate, especially in a situation in which the marketing of the latest theory is a cottage industry beyond the wildest dreams of the early hypothesizers. How many people make their living off of UFO products now? What common advertisers do they feature on their websites? Where do these links lead you? Who are the corporate sponsors of the medium and large conferences? How many websites does Steven Lewis manage? Non-military UFOlogy, like most of the world of conspiracy media, is probably largely a network marketing pyramid scheme like Amway, and the end result is probably the hidden hawking of ARM mortagages and new-age medicinal cures right along with the endless stream of ancient lost civilisations and bland, expressionless faces mute on the surface of Mars.
Searcher08 wrote:What if we were told -"You folks are learning disabled to an enormous degree, are ethically retarded and morally vacuous. You are currently unteachable"
Many insane materialists are looking on the planetary neighbourhood as a place to dump unwanted toxic waste, build empires, make fortunes... and basically seeking to export human stupidity.
Sepka wrote:If you accept Jaques Valee's hypothesis about the UFO phenomenon serving as a sort of control mechanism to shape human behaviour and perceptions toward the phenomenon's unknown purposes, then why shouldn't some of the 'cottage industry', the fake videos, the cultish memes, etc, be part of that? If it's all a show for our benefit, then why restrict that show to 'real' objects in the sky, when a YouTube video can reach so many more?
sfnate wrote:Let's just say that there is a phenomenon of, as Jung said, "things seen in the sky".
That is our beginning, and it is the only uncontroversial statement that anyone can make about what occurs: we see some thing in the sky--it appears to be there, and then it seems to vanish.
The relationship of the witness to the observed is probably the least understood, and most mis-represented, aspect of the phenomenon.
In the pure syntax of the moment, we are the subject (witness) conjoined to an object (thing). The missing grammatical piece is the appropriate verb--the verb that creates and links us to the semantical intimacy of meaning.
The absence of a verbal "tissue" that connects the observer to the observed is a crippling grammatical error that frustrates the expression of any meaningful statement about what is happening, and why.
The various linguists engaged in the expert analysis of the as yet unarticulated narrative rely almost exclusively on nouns--things--and adjectives--descriptors--in their attempts to express the relationship between the observer and the observed.
But the deeper, transformational element of understanding is missing, because the analysis relies on an assumption of some concretized reality that is the static representation of an impersonal will revealed through the manifest extension of its intention into various formative instruments. One instrument, for example, is the simple teleology of adaptive organisms (evolution). The prescriptive grammar of science maintains that evolution exists as an expression of the programmatic imperative of the lifeforce, a complex ingression of novelty into the bio-engine of pro-creation. The fixed mechanical perspective of scientism depicts three-dimensional objects and spatial relationships on a two-dimensional cognitive plane: it is a flat, affectless sentence that disdains any meaning in favor of the cold and clinical presentation of facts, the nouns and adjectives of existence.
However, we can use verbs to discover meaning, because they link subject and object in an embrace that is both intimate and real. Or, rather, they create a reality that is a participatory event, where the creative impetus is returned to the subject who speaks a narrative into existence. This alchemical transformation of matter through a deep understanding of the Logos is the occult science that understands that we live our lives in places that were always first imagined, then revealed: our individual lives are sentences in the Book of Revelations, and every twisting of the plot is the apocryphal text of our deepest dreams.
Reality is an experiment in collaborative deep-fiction. This is a metaphor, of course. But metaphor can expose the hidden meaning in every object. The UFO is a rich archetypal receiver of our dreams, a vessel for meaning that writes strange sentences in the sky with an unseen hand, our own.
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