Corey Feldman: Pedophilia No. 1 problem in Hollywood

[RocketMan]

BTW the Jamie Dlux channel is interesting, thanks for the tip!

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

BTW the Jamie Dlux channel is interesting, thanks for the tip!

You're welcome.

[FourthBase]

Is this the right thread to discuss Ricky Gervais's speech at the Golden Globes where he confronts the Hollywood elite about their pedophilia issues a little bit? Or is Ricky fascist alt-right scum now?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/n ... ue-1266516

Hello and welcome to the 77th annual Golden Globe Awards, live from the Beverly Hilton Hotel here in Los Angeles. I'm Ricky Gervais, thank you.

You'll be pleased to know this is the last time I'm hosting these awards, so I don't care anymore. I'm joking. I never did. I'm joking, I never did. NBC clearly don't care either — fifth time. I mean, Kevin Hart was fired from the Oscars for some offensive tweets — hello?

Lucky for me, the Hollywood Foreign Press can barely speak English and they've no idea what Twitter is, so I got offered this gig by fax. Let's go out with a bang, let's have a laugh at your expense. Remember, they're just jokes. We're all gonna die soon and there's no sequel, so remember that.

But you all look lovely all dolled up. You came here in your limos. I came here in a limo tonight and the license plate was made by Felicity Huffman. No, shush. It's her daughter I feel sorry for. OK? That must be the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to her. And her dad was in Wild Hogs.

Lots of big celebrities here tonight. Legends. Icons. This table alone — Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro … Baby Yoda. Oh, that's Joe Pesci, sorry. I love you man. Don't have me whacked. But tonight isn't just about the people in front of the camera. In this room are some of the most important TV and film executives in the world. People from every background. They all have one thing in common: They're all terrified of Ronan Farrow. He's coming for ya. Talking of all you perverts, it was a big year for pedophile movies. Surviving R. Kelly, Leaving Neverland, Two Popes. Shut up. Shut up. I don't care. I don't care.

Many talented people of color were snubbed in major categories. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about that. Hollywood Foreign Press are all very racist. Fifth time. So. We were going to do an In Memoriam this year, but when I saw the list of people who died, it wasn't diverse enough. No, it was mostly white people and I thought, nah, not on my watch. Maybe next year. Let's see what happens.

No one cares about movies anymore. No one goes to cinema, no one really watches network TV. Everyone is watching Netflix. This show should just be me coming out, going, "Well done Netflix. You win everything. Good night." But no, we got to drag it out for three hours. You could binge-watch the entire first season of Afterlife instead of watching this show. That's a show about a man who wants to kill himself 'cause his wife dies of cancer and it's still more fun than this. Spoiler alert, season two is on the way so in the end he obviously didn't kill himself. Just like Jeffrey Epstein. Shut up. I know he's your friend but I don't care.

Seriously, most films are awful. Lazy. Remakes, sequels. I've heard a rumor there might be a sequel to Sophie's Choice. I mean, that would just be Meryl just going, "Well, it's gotta be this one then." All the best actors have jumped to Netflix, HBO. And the actors who just do Hollywood movies now do fantasy-adventure nonsense. They wear masks and capes and really tight costumes. Their job isn't acting anymore. It's going to the gym twice a day and taking steroids, really. Have we got an award for most ripped junky? No point, we'd know who'd win that.

Martin Scorsese made the news for his controversial comments about the Marvel franchise. He said they're not real cinema and they remind him about theme parks. I agree. Although I don't know what he's doing hanging around theme parks. He's not big enough to go on the rides. He's tiny. The Irishman was amazing. It was amazing. It was great. Long, but amazing. It wasn't the only epic movie. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, nearly three hours long. Leonardo DiCaprio attended the premiere and by the end his date was too old for him. Even Prince Andrew was like, "Come on, Leo, mate.You're nearly 50-something."

The world got to see James Corden as a fat pussy. He was also in the movie Cats. No one saw that movie. And the reviews, shocking. I saw one that said, "This is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs." But Dame Judi Dench defended the film saying it was the film she was born to play because she loves nothing better than plunking herself down on the carpet, lifting her leg and licking her ass. (Coughs.) Hairball. She's old-school.

It's the last time, who cares? Apple roared into the TV game with The Morning Show, a superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing, made by a company that runs sweatshops in China. Well, you say you're woke but the companies you work for in China — unbelievable. Apple, Amazon, Disney. If ISIS started a streaming service you'd call your agent, wouldn't you?

So if you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a platform to make a political speech. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg.

So if you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent, and your God and fuck off, OK? It's already three hours long. Right, let's do the first award

[thrulookingglass]

Why is 'everyone' so entertained/entranced with studying this absolutely abhorrent behavior?! Fame and all its wonders. When is humanities attitude toward sex ever going to mature? Damn these rotten religions not each other! Its normal to self pleasure. Its normal to want sex. Its normal to talk about sex. Sex is the most natural force. Nudity is not vulgar. Fig leaves fro the statue of David. Our perverse view of sex has demonized a loving, sensual, healing and fundamental force of nature. Labeling this shit as 'Satanic' impairs our comprehension of what is simply an abominably immoral act. No man or woman should be so depraved as to treat someone's child in this manner. Humanities profanation of sexuality has turned a great, romantic, sensual, loving act into some back alley freak show. This is perception of sex as poisonous to the soul (unchaste, unclean behavior) has only made it more perverse.

Different religions have different attitudes towards sexuality, but in general, the major monotheistic religions have had very negative attitudes towards sexuality, leading to a statistically high number of psychosexual disorders as a result of suppression and abnormal teachings on sexuality. The scholar of comparative religion, Moojan Momen, attempts a comparison between the major world religions, opening with the forward statement that Christianity is the most negative:

Book Cover“Of the major religions, Christianity is perhaps the most negative towards human sexuality. [...] there are several statements in the New Testament that advocate celibacy (with monogamous marriage being a second-best option) and condemn homosexuality. Such passages have formed the basis of the view of most Christian churches up to modern times.

[In Buddhism:] During the whole of [The Buddha's] ministry, however, he embraced a world-renouncing life which excluded sexual contact. The rules for the Buddhist monks reflect this example of the Buddha. Such rules are still applied in Theravada Buddhism, but married monks are found among Mahayana Buddhists. Of the major Indian traditions, however, it is Jainism that has the strictest attitude against any expression of sexuality among its monks and nuns. In Islam, the attitude to sexuality is, again, set by the example of the founder, Muhammed, who married some fourteen wives and had a number of children. There is thus a much more positive approach towards marriage, sexuality and family life. Monasticism is prohibited and the number of wives is limited to four. Homosexuality is again prohibited. The attitude to sexuality in Judaism is much the same as in Islam, except that polygamy was prohibited in the Middle Ages.

In modern times, the more liberal elements in Western Christianity have responded to social realities by relaxing the strict sexual morality that has characterized most traditional religion.”

"The Phenomenon Of Religion: A Thematic Approach" by Moojan Momen (1999) [Book Review]1

Nearly all fundamentalist religious organisations reject human rights, and in particular, reject women's rights and are also hostile to homosexuality, transvestitism and any other sexuality that is not traditional patriarchialism. They "typically exclude women from the senior ranks of religious leadership. All or almost all express concern about control of female sexuality"2. But in history, all these things were not the preserve of extremists: they were the mainstream positions of mainstream Christian churches. There have been periods in history when there existed a determined repression of all overt sexuality. Such times were always the result of religious idealism dictating negative sexual morality and forming culture from the top down. Secular grassroots movements have tended to be relatively libertarian and accepting of the realities of sexuality. Although there are exceptions, in general religious expression has been the arch enemy of sexual expression. The psychological problems that such repression or oppression causes can be severe and sometimes even pandemic.

"Abnormal Psychology3", the psychologists Davison & Neale write that "therapists with a psychoanalytic bent point out that in the second half of the nineteenth century, when the incidence of [some disorders] was apparently high in France and Austria, repressive sexual attitudes may have contributed to the increased prevalence of the disorder". Sexual dysfunction may be caused by religious orthodoxy and that "pedophiles and perpetrators of incest are often rigidly religious and moralistic". The philosopher and academic Friedrich Nietzsche points out that frequently, sexual repression is religiously motivated:

“Up to this point, wherever religious neurosis has appeared on earth we find it tied up with three dangerous dietary rules: isolation, fasting, and sexual abstinence.”

"Beyond Good and Evil" by Friedrich Nietzsche (1886)

Suppression and distortion of sexual drives is a leading, and dangerous, cause of psychological dysfunctions. British Government statistics in 2006 on the prison population revealed "a strong tendency for prisoners who declare a religious faith to be serving time for sexual offences". Irrational and superstitious beliefs concerning sexuality are two leading causes of socially destructive behaviour, in particular when it comes to the rejection of human rights.

These people need help, not our disdain.

[lucky]

Two things to say - He was paid $5m for this outing, The jester is always the closest to the king - so all might not be as it seems.

[FourthBase]

Why is 'everyone' so entertained/entranced with studying this absolutely abhorrent behavior?! Fame and all its wonders. When is humanities attitude toward sex ever going to mature? Damn these rotten religions not each other! Its normal to self pleasure. Its normal to want sex. Its normal to talk about sex. Sex is the most natural force. Nudity is not vulgar. Fig leaves fro the statue of David. Our perverse view of sex has demonized a loving, sensual, healing and fundamental force of nature. Labeling this shit as 'Satanic' impairs our comprehension of what is simply an abominably immoral act. No man or woman should be so depraved as to treat someone's child in this manner. Humanities profanation of sexuality has turned a great, romantic, sensual, loving act into some back alley freak show. This is perception of sex as poisonous to the soul (unchaste, unclean behavior) has only made it more perverse.

Different religions have different attitudes towards sexuality, but in general, the major monotheistic religions have had very negative attitudes towards sexuality, leading to a statistically high number of psychosexual disorders as a result of suppression and abnormal teachings on sexuality. The scholar of comparative religion, Moojan Momen, attempts a comparison between the major world religions, opening with the forward statement that Christianity is the most negative:

Book Cover“Of the major religions, Christianity is perhaps the most negative towards human sexuality. [...] there are several statements in the New Testament that advocate celibacy (with monogamous marriage being a second-best option) and condemn homosexuality. Such passages have formed the basis of the view of most Christian churches up to modern times.

[In Buddhism:] During the whole of [The Buddha's] ministry, however, he embraced a world-renouncing life which excluded sexual contact. The rules for the Buddhist monks reflect this example of the Buddha. Such rules are still applied in Theravada Buddhism, but married monks are found among Mahayana Buddhists. Of the major Indian traditions, however, it is Jainism that has the strictest attitude against any expression of sexuality among its monks and nuns. In Islam, the attitude to sexuality is, again, set by the example of the founder, Muhammed, who married some fourteen wives and had a number of children. There is thus a much more positive approach towards marriage, sexuality and family life. Monasticism is prohibited and the number of wives is limited to four. Homosexuality is again prohibited. The attitude to sexuality in Judaism is much the same as in Islam, except that polygamy was prohibited in the Middle Ages.

In modern times, the more liberal elements in Western Christianity have responded to social realities by relaxing the strict sexual morality that has characterized most traditional religion.”

"The Phenomenon Of Religion: A Thematic Approach" by Moojan Momen (1999) [Book Review]1

Nearly all fundamentalist religious organisations reject human rights, and in particular, reject women's rights and are also hostile to homosexuality, transvestitism and any other sexuality that is not traditional patriarchialism. They "typically exclude women from the senior ranks of religious leadership. All or almost all express concern about control of female sexuality"2. But in history, all these things were not the preserve of extremists: they were the mainstream positions of mainstream Christian churches. There have been periods in history when there existed a determined repression of all overt sexuality. Such times were always the result of religious idealism dictating negative sexual morality and forming culture from the top down. Secular grassroots movements have tended to be relatively libertarian and accepting of the realities of sexuality. Although there are exceptions, in general religious expression has been the arch enemy of sexual expression. The psychological problems that such repression or oppression causes can be severe and sometimes even pandemic.

"Abnormal Psychology3", the psychologists Davison & Neale write that "therapists with a psychoanalytic bent point out that in the second half of the nineteenth century, when the incidence of [some disorders] was apparently high in France and Austria, repressive sexual attitudes may have contributed to the increased prevalence of the disorder". Sexual dysfunction may be caused by religious orthodoxy and that "pedophiles and perpetrators of incest are often rigidly religious and moralistic". The philosopher and academic Friedrich Nietzsche points out that frequently, sexual repression is religiously motivated:

“Up to this point, wherever religious neurosis has appeared on earth we find it tied up with three dangerous dietary rules: isolation, fasting, and sexual abstinence.”

"Beyond Good and Evil" by Friedrich Nietzsche (1886)

Suppression and distortion of sexual drives is a leading, and dangerous, cause of psychological dysfunctions. British Government statistics in 2006 on the prison population revealed "a strong tendency for prisoners who declare a religious faith to be serving time for sexual offences". Irrational and superstitious beliefs concerning sexuality are two leading causes of socially destructive behaviour, in particular when it comes to the rejection of human rights.

These people need help, not our disdain.

You can't imagine that some religious taboos and maybe religion itself might have been born in part from a sudden emotional rejection of all the incest our clueless distant ancestors were up to?

"Stop! This is wrong!"
"Why?"
"Because...because GOD said so."

You can't see how a world of pure sexual liberation for all could lead to even more perversion and lethal jealousy and sexually transmitted diseases? Can't see how most humans might have decided, you know what, nah, we need rules? And the rules went too far, sure. Especially in the direction of controlling females like property. Banning gay sex, too, under the penalty of death. Bad. But while I don't begrudge anyone the right to go to PTown or suburban key parties and participate in raw orgies if they want, if that behavior were universalized our species would have been crawling with fatal STDs. Ever wondered if maybe that did happen, and if all those sexually-unrestrained humans looked at their crusted oozing genitals and thought, "We're being cursed by an invisible being!" and invented some rules?

And while I'd like to think the world used to be the way Christopher Ryan depicts it in Sex at Dawn, I can't help but think that there would've been way, way more violence over mating access than he'd like to think. Hierarchy is not as artificial a construct as everyone would prefer to imagine. There would've been incels back in the ancestral environment, too, and they wouldn't have been pacified with porn and video games. Do you see how that might have been a problem? There are negative realities of sex, too, it's not all rainbows and sunshine. Repression and regulation, while certainly counterproductive in excess, is not all miserable top-down control freak religiosity. Some amount of repression is healthy and necessary, and mutually decided upon.

You seriously think there weren't predators into child-fucking before organized religion? You want us to help the ones that exist now? Sure, help in the form of being locked away from the rest of society until they die, that way they can avoid the wrath of vigilante justice on earth and try again in the next life's roll of the dice. Far more humane than what our pre-religious ancestors probably did to child rapists.

I'm neither entertained nor entranced by celebrity pedophilia. I just want them all caught, stopped, and punished. Would you say that cops investigating crime are entertained or entranced by the criminals? They might indulge in grim humor sometimes. They're only human. Gervais was grimly funny.

To my Sicilian uncle and grandfather who literally worshipped the devil, incestuous child rape and ritualistic abuse was literally a satanic activity. You want me to pretend otherwise? I'd say that would impair comprehension. Thankfully they never got to me. But I'll be damned if I dishonor my father's memory by ignoring a fundamental aspect of the evil inflicted on him. Just to suit somebody else's desire to shield the occult from scrutiny and blame. Most pedophiles might not be satanists, most satanists might not be pedophiles, but there's definitely a connection between satanism and pedophilia just as much as there's a connection between religious celibacy and pedophilia. One is way too restrictive, one is way too permissive.

[FourthBase]

Two things to say - He was paid $5m for this outing, The jester is always the closest to the king - so all might not be as it seems.

True.

Any chance the Hollywood Foreign Press has an incentive to intimidate the stars in the audience with a whiff of potential blackmail?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Why is 'everyone' so entertained/entranced with studying this absolutely abhorrent behavior?!

Why would anyone care about their ruling class being run by sadistic perverts who victimize children? Why would anyone care that the people who create our pop culture, including and especially children's entertainment, are sadistic perverts who victimize children? It must be some kind of uptight Puritan trip, right? Just go with the flow, man!

This is one of the saddest posts I've seen here in awhile, all in all. Just pathetic prevaricating.

These people need help, not our disdain.

I feel that way about you -- but not them. They need something altogether different.

[RocketMan]

It is the confluence of POWER (not Hollywood, real power) with child sexual abuse, including ritual sex abuse, that drives our concern, I believe.

RI really opened my eyes to it. This is not just aberrant sexual behaviour, it is ritual intended to foster and perpetuate power. Whether the disciples believe they will actually gain some power by ritual/supernatural means is beside the point, the point is this is done. In very high circles.

I'd really market myself with this, having been into pedo elites before it was cool, but one really doesn't want to broadcast one's interest in child abuse, people are rarely interested in the reasons...

Why is 'everyone' so entertained/entranced with studying this absolutely abhorrent behavior?!

Why would anyone care about their ruling class being run by sadistic perverts who victimize children? Why would anyone care that the people who create our pop culture, including and especially children's entertainment, are sadistic perverts who victimize children? It must be some kind of uptight Puritan trip, right? Just go with the flow, man!

This is one of the saddest posts I've seen here in awhile, all in all. Just pathetic prevaricating.

These people need help, not our disdain.

I feel that way about you -- but not them. They need something altogether different.

[FourthBase]

Hollywood isn't real power? The realness of Hollywood's cultural power used to be common knowledge here when film was jam packed with obscene military propaganda. The power to mesmerize, to normalize, to desensitize, to colonize the collective American psyche. What happened?

[Elvis]

He was paid $5m for this outing

$5M? For hosting one show? I never even heard of him before this kerfuffle.

I'm always like, who are these "celebrities" banking 100s of millions and I never heard of them?

[Harvey]

Why is 'everyone' so entertained/entranced with studying this absolutely abhorrent behavior?!

Because it's both the reigns and stirrup of power. Why else is the Roman Catholic church still so powerful? Why else was a sexual revolution potentially so threatening?

[Editing on the hoof...]

[RocketMan]

Hollywood isn't real power? The realness of Hollywood's cultural power used to be common knowledge here when film was jam packed with obscene military propaganda. The power to mesmerize, to normalize, to desensitize, to colonize the collective American psyche. What happened?

Fair enough, I worded it poorly. The real power isn't wielded by the visible Hollywood superstars but their handlers. But of course Hollywood as such is a mind control factory with no equal in the world.

[coffin_dodger]

Comments are interesting.

https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/121 ... 40?lang=en

[RocketMan]

Comments are interesting.

https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/121 ... 40?lang=en

Is there something percolating about Tom Hanks? Something tangible? Those people seem to be referencing some specific... thing.