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Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:09 am
by Nordic
http://boingboing.net/2011/11/28/voynic ... nline.html

Avi sez, "Yale's Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library has put complete high resolution scans of the enigmatic, undeciphered Voynich Manuscript online."

Written in Central Europe at the end of the 15th or during the 16th century, the origin, language, and date of the Voynich Manuscript—named after the Polish-American antiquarian bookseller, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who acquired it in 1912—are still being debated as vigorously as its puzzling drawings and undeciphered text. Described as a magical or scientific text, nearly every page contains botanical, figurative, and scientific drawings of a provincial but lively character, drawn in ink with vibrant washes in various shades of green, brown, yellow, blue, and red.

Based on the subject matter of the drawings, the contents of the manuscript falls into six sections: 1) botanicals containing drawings of 113 unidentified plant species; 2) astronomical and astrological drawings including astral charts with radiating circles, suns and moons, Zodiac symbols such as fish (Pisces), a bull (Taurus), and an archer (Sagittarius), nude females emerging from pipes or chimneys, and courtly figures; 3) a biological section containing a myriad of drawings of miniature female nudes, most with swelled abdomens, immersed or wading in fluids and oddly interacting with interconnecting tubes and capsules; 4) an elaborate array of nine cosmological medallions, many drawn across several folded folios and depicting possible geographical forms; 5) pharmaceutical drawings of over 100 different species of medicinal herbs and roots portrayed with jars or vessels in red, blue, or green, and 6) continuous pages of text, possibly recipes, with star-like flowers marking each entry in the margins.


Cool!

Here's the link to the actual site:

http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/digita ... ynich.html

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Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:24 am
by Elvis
Fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
The Voynich manuscript, described as "the world's most mysterious manuscript",[1] is a work which dates to the early 15th century, possibly from northern Italy.[2][3] It is named after the book dealer Wilfrid Voynich, who purchased it in 1912.

Some pages are missing, but the current version comprises about 240 vellum pages, most with illustrations. Much of the manuscript resembles a herbal of the time period, seeming to present illustrations and information about plants and their possible uses for medical purposes. However, most of the plants do not match known species, and the manuscript's script and language remain unknown and unreadable. Possibly some form of encrypted ciphertext, the Voynich manuscript has been studied by many professional and amateur cryptographers, including American and British codebreakers from both World War I and World War II. As yet, it has defied all decipherment attempts, becoming a cause célèbre of historical cryptology. The mystery surrounding it has excited the popular imagination, making the manuscript a subject of both fanciful theories and novels.The carbon dating techniques on the manuscripts was done for the first time by scientists at the University of Arizona. The researchers have dated it to be between 1404-1438-a century earlier than thought.

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:33 am
by Harvey
Reminds me a little of the supposed (fictional?) Celestine Prophecy...

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:58 am
by justdrew
I think it's asemic writing, basically a work of art.

or a book of memories made by and for a stranded traveler

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:48 am
by smiths
it may be just a work of art, but this connection is intriguing

It is very likely that Emperor Rudolph acquired the manuscript from the English astrologer John Dee (1527-1608).
Dee apparently owned the manuscript along with a number of other Roger Bacon manuscripts.
In addition, Dee stated that he had 630 ducats in October 1586, and his son noted that Dee, while in Bohemia, owned "a booke...containing nothing butt Hieroglyphicks, which booke his father bestowed much time upon: but I could not heare that hee could make it out."


Dee and Edward Kelly stayed in Bohemia with a noble family of Occultists and Alchemists, Rudolph was also an occultist

could there be any connection here?


MONAS HIEROGLYPHICA
This is John Dee's enigmatic treatise on symbolic language. Although published in 1564 at age 37, he considered it valuable throughout his life. The Monas is a highly esoteric work. In it he claims himself in possession of the most secret mysteries. He wrote it in twelve days while apparently in a peak (mystical) state
http://www.esotericarchives.com/dee/monad.htm


or here


Rosucrician Manifestos
The Rosicrucian Manifestos were two documents of unknown authorship written in the early 17th century in Europe. They purported to announce the existence of a hitherto unknown esoteric order, the Brotherhood of the Rose Cross, to the world. The Fama Fraternitatis and the Confessio Fraternitatis as they were known, caused an immense furore across Europe with their esoteric imagery and call for a universal spiritual and cultural reformation across the continent. To this day controversy continues whether they were a hoax, whether the Order of the Rose Cross really existed as described in the Manifestos, or whether the whole thing was a metaphor or ludibrium disguising a movement that really existed, but in a different form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian_Manifestos

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:30 am
by gnosticheresy_2
smiths wrote:it may be just a work of art, but this connection is intriguing

It is very likely that Emperor Rudolph acquired the manuscript from the English astrologer John Dee (1527-1608).
Dee apparently owned the manuscript along with a number of other Roger Bacon manuscripts.
In addition, Dee stated that he had 630 ducats in October 1586, and his son noted that Dee, while in Bohemia, owned "a booke...containing nothing butt Hieroglyphicks, which booke his father bestowed much time upon: but I could not heare that hee could make it out."


Dee and Edward Kelly stayed in Bohemia with a noble family of Occultists and Alchemists, Rudolph was also an occultist

could there be any connection here?


MONAS HIEROGLYPHICA
This is John Dee's enigmatic treatise on symbolic language. Although published in 1564 at age 37, he considered it valuable throughout his life. The Monas is a highly esoteric work. In it he claims himself in possession of the most secret mysteries. He wrote it in twelve days while apparently in a peak (mystical) state
http://www.esotericarchives.com/dee/monad.htm


I've said this before on here but it bears repeating:

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Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:41 am
by justdrew
Ludibrium. wow, and I'd thought ARGs were "new"

could be it was a trick to get Dee to waste a lot of time...

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:03 am
by Searcher08
justdrew wrote:I think it's asemic writing, basically a work of art.

or a book of memories made by and for a stranded traveler


:sun:

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:22 am
by brainpanhandler
Might eventually be decoded.


brainpanhandler wrote:
Modern Algorithms Crack 18th Century Secret Code

By Mark Brown, Wired UK

Computer scientists from Sweden and the United States have applied modern-day, statistical translation techniques — the sort of which that are used in Google Translate — to decode a 250-year old secret message.

The original document, nicknamed the Copiale Cipher, was written in the late 18th century and found in the East Berlin Academy after the Cold War. It’s since been kept in a private collection, and the 105-page, slightly yellowed tome has withheld its secrets ever since.

But this year, University of Southern California Viterbi School of Engineering computer scientist Kevin Knight — an expert in translation, not so much in cryptography — and colleagues Beáta Megyesi and Christiane Schaefer of Uppsala University in Sweden, tracked down the document, transcribed a machine-readable version and set to work cracking the centuries-old code.

...

The document revealed the rituals and political leanings of a German secret society, and one that had a strange obsession with eyeballs, plucking eyebrows, eye surgery and ophthalmology.

...

Buoyant from his success, Knight is now planning on using his techniques and programs to tackle other codes including ones from the Zodiac Killer, a Northern Californian serial murderer from the 60s; “Kryptos,” an encrypted message carved into a granite sculpture on the grounds of CIA headquarters; and the Voynich Manuscript, a medieval document that has baffled professional cryptographers for decades.



http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/ ... her-crack/





Link to pdf of English translation:
http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~bea/copiale/c ... lation.pdf


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Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:42 am
by dqueue
In Archaic Revival, a collection of essays, articles, and interviews by (or with) Terence McKenna, he covers the Voynich Manuscript. Looking quickly online, I see there may be some audio content on youtube; though, I have no idea about the content. I don't have the book here in front of me (and my reading retention suffers). He cites two researches who claim to have broken the code, one of whom was shown to be wrong, another struggled to articulate his findings before he died. Google books has a portion of the essay online, but it's missing many pages interspersed through the content.

I'll try to update this when I can better refresh my memory. Pardon the incomplete thought!

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:57 am
by ShinShinKid
I thought this was posted...apparently not!

if it's a repeat...sorry.

www.ciphermysteries.com

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:55 pm
by cptmarginal
dqueue wrote:In Archaic Revival, a collection of essays, articles, and interviews by (or with) Terence McKenna, he covers the Voynich Manuscript. Looking quickly online, I see there may be some audio content on youtube; though, I have no idea about the content. I don't have the book here in front of me (and my reading retention suffers). He cites two researches who claim to have broken the code, one of whom was shown to be wrong, another struggled to articulate his findings before he died. Google books has a portion of the essay online, but it's missing many pages interspersed through the content.

I'll try to update this when I can better refresh my memory. Pardon the incomplete thought!


You could still get a PDF of Archaic Revival (as well as the Voynich manuscript) from the backup of my defunct book blog all the way up until yesterday. Why yesterday? Because the free file-hosting site megaupload seems to have gone down for the count, so now none of the files are available.

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:26 pm
by justdrew
cptmarginal wrote:
dqueue wrote:In Archaic Revival, a collection of essays, articles, and interviews by (or with) Terence McKenna, he covers the Voynich Manuscript. Looking quickly online, I see there may be some audio content on youtube; though, I have no idea about the content. I don't have the book here in front of me (and my reading retention suffers). He cites two researches who claim to have broken the code, one of whom was shown to be wrong, another struggled to articulate his findings before he died. Google books has a portion of the essay online, but it's missing many pages interspersed through the content.

I'll try to update this when I can better refresh my memory. Pardon the incomplete thought!


You could still get a PDF of Archaic Revival (as well as the Voynich manuscript) from the backup of my defunct book blog all the way up until yesterday. Why yesterday? Because the free file-hosting site megaupload seems to have gone down for the count, so now none of the files are available.



It's still there... I just snagged it.
here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PSODCHRB

in fact, your book collection there just convinced me to get the cheap kindle :thumbsup

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:11 am
by RocketMan
Just ran into this online. Weeeeeird. How cool a name is "The Voynich Manuscript"? Man, just that gets the imagination running.

Re: Voynich Manuscript online

PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:02 pm
by seemslikeadream
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New signs of language surface in mystery Voynich text

22:00 21 June 2013 by Lisa Grossman
A mysterious and beautiful 15th-century text that some researchers have recently deemed to be gibberish may not be a hoax after all. A new study suggests the text shares quantifiable features with genuine language, and so may contain a coded message.

That verdict emerges from a statistical technique that puts a figure on the information content of elements in a text or code, even if their meaning is unknown. The technique could also be used to determine whether there is meaning in genomes, possible messages from aliens or even the signals between neurons in the brain.

The Voynich manuscript has baffled and captivated researchers since book dealer Wilfred Voynich found it in an Italian monastery in 1912. It contains illustrations of naked nymphs, unidentifiable plants, astrological diagrams and pages and pages of text in an unidentified alphabet.

Although the patterns of word lengths and symbol combinations in the text are similar to those in real languages, several recent studies have suggested that the book was a clever 15th-century hoax designed to dupe Renaissance book collectors, and that the words have no meaning. One study showed that techniques known to 16th-century cryptographers would have allowed someone to create these patterns using a nonsense set of characters. Another study concluded that the statistical properties of the script are consistent with gibberish.

Word entropy

Now Marcelo Montemurro of the University of Manchester in the UK and colleagues have analysed the text using a technique that pulls out the most meaningful terms. "We decided that's ideal to use in this mysterious manuscript," Montemurro says. "People have been discussing and quarrelling for decades about whether it's a hoax. This would be a new approach."

Their results support the idea that Voynich text really does contain a secret message.

Rather than looking for patterns in the words themselves, Montemurro's method looks for more global patterns in the frequency and clustering of words that might indicate meaning. "The results that we get looking at these things cast a new light on the content of the volume,"Montemurro says.

The method uses a formula to find the entropy of each term – a measure of how evenly distributed it is. For a given term, the researchers determined its entropy in both the original text and in a scrambled version. The difference between the two entropies, multiplied by the frequency of the word, gives a measure of how much information it carries.

The method recognises that words that are particularly important will appear more frequently, as well as making a distinction between low-information words like and, which you would expect to be sprinkled evenly throughout, and high-information ones like language, which might only appear in sections dealing with that topic.

Relatedness score

Back in 2009, the entropy approach homed in on meaningful words in famous texts across several languages. In On the Origin of Species, for example, the top 10 most informative words identified by the formula included species, varieties, hybrids, forms and genera. In Moby Dick, one of the most important words, according to the formula, was whale.

When applied to Voynich, the formula picked out several high-entropy words that seemed to be specific to different sections of the manuscript.

The team also applied a further analysis that deduces how related unknown words are, based on how related words cluster in known languages. Then they used this relatedness score to compare different sections of the manuscript.

They found that the high-entropy terms in what the manuscript's illustrations would suggest are the pharmaceutical and herbal sections of the book were more likely to be related to each other than to terms in sections apparently about astrology, biology and recipes.

"They're the strongest connected linguistically and also at the level of their pictorial representations – they're the only two sections that have these plants," Montemurro says. "Our analysis is the first one that actually links these sections only by their linguistic structure."

Word clusters

The technique also measured the optimal way to cluster related words so as to maximise their information value. In novels or chapters that pertain to a certain topic, clusters of related, high-entropy terms tend to be fairly large, containing several hundred words. By contrast, on books that are simply a list of citations, say, with no connection to each other at all, clusters of related words – known as scale domains – would be much smaller.

Montemurro and colleagues compared the scale domains of the Voynich manuscript to those in texts of similar lengths in several languages: On the Origin of Species (in English), Records of the Grand Historian (Chinese), The Confessions of St. Augustine (Latin), plus computer code in the Fortran programming language and sections of yeast DNA.

The scale domain of the human languages was between 500 and 700 words in size, while Fortran's was around 300 and yeast's more like 10. For "Voynichese", it was around 800.

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"We wanted to see whether the structure that emerged from the analysis would be consistent or not with a real language," Montemurro says. "Should we have found something like the yeast, then it would cast more doubts on the nature of the Voynich manuscript. But given the value we obtained, we say we cannot disregard that it is language."

Proponents of the hoax hypothesis are still not convinced. In 2004, computer scientist Gordon Rugg of Keele University in the UK proposed a low-tech method for a smart trickster to create the entire Voynich manuscript without first inventing a secret language.

Feasible hoax

The hoaxer could first have written down a table of gibberish syllables containing the roots, prefixes and suffixes found in Voynichese, and then covered the table with a piece of card containing three holes, moving it over the table to read off new "words". Using different cards with different arrangements of holes would produce text that looked like language, even though it wasn't.

"The hoax would be perfectly feasible," Rugg says, and could produce several of the features that Montemurro found in the distribution of words in the Voynich manuscript. "A complex surface structure does not have to be produced by complex deep structure. You can have very simple processes that produce very complex outputs."

He adds that this effort might well have been warranted given the sophistication of the book collectors of the time, who might well have run some linguistic tests on a text before purchasing it.

Rugg also points out that manuscript shows no evidence of any errors having been corrected as it was written. "If the Voynich manuscript contained a real language, either the person who wrote it didn't care about having mistakes in it, or he wrote 200 pages without making a mistake," he says. "That's unlikely."

Montemurro now hopes to analyse other information-carrying sequences that are not necessarily language, such as DNA or perhaps even neural signals. This might help geneticists home in on the most valuable stretches of DNA and reveal whether different parts of the brain "speak" to each other in a code.

"But [the Voynich manuscript] does have a fascination, because for one thing, there's no closure," Rugg admits. "It's like the most interesting whodunnit ever, and somebody's ripped out the last three pages."