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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:09 am

Nordic wrote:A friend posted this on FB tonight, from Wikileaks:


http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/16714 ... rawal.html

INSIGHT - military intervention in Syria, post withdrawal status of forces
Email-ID 1671459
Date 2011-12-07 00:49:18
From bhalla@stratfor.com
To secure@stratfor.com
A few points I wanted to highlight from meetings today --

I spent most of the afternoon at the Pentagon with the USAF strategic
studies group - guys who spend their time trying to understand and explain
to the USAF chief the big picture in areas where they're operating in. It
was just myself and four other guys at the Lieutenant Colonel level,
including one French and one British representative who are liaising with
the US currently out of DC.

They wanted to grill me on the strategic picture on Syria, so after that I
got to grill them on the military picture. There is still a very low level
of understanding of what is actually at stake in Syria, what's the
strategic interest there, the Turkish role, the Iranian role, etc. After a
couple hours of talking, they said without saying that SOF teams
(presumably from US, UK, France, Jordan, Turkey) are already on the ground
focused on recce missions and training opposition forces. One Air Force
intel guy (US) said very carefully that there isn't much of a Free Syrian
Army to train right now anyway, but all the operations being done now are
being done out of 'prudence.' The way it was put to me was, 'look at this
way - the level of information known on Syrian OrBat this month is the
best it's been since 2001.' They have been told to prepare contingencies
and be ready to act within 2-3 months, but they still stress that this is
all being done as contingency planning, not as a move toward escalation.

I kept pressing on the question of what these SOF teams would be working
toward, and whether this would lead to an eventual air camapign to give a
Syrian rebel group cover. They pretty quickly distanced themselves from
that idea, saying that the idea 'hypothetically' is to commit guerrilla
attacks, assassination campaigns, try to break the back of the Alawite
forces, elicit collapse from within.
There wouldn't be a need for air
cover, and they wouldn't expect these Syrian rebels to be marching in
columns anyway.

They emphasized how the air campaign in Syria makes Libya look like a
piece of cake. Syrian air defenses are a lot more robust and are much
denser, esp around Damascus and on the borders with Israel, Turkey. THey
are most worried about mobile air defenses, particularly the SA-17s that
they've been getting recently. It's still a doable mission, it's just not
an easy one.

The main base they would use is Cyprus, hands down. Brits and FRench would
fly out of there. They kept stressing how much is stored at Cyprus and how
much recce comes out of there. The group was split on whether Turkey would
be involved, but said Turkey would be pretty critical to the mission to
base stuff out of there. EVen if Turkey had a poltiical problem with
Cyprus, they said there is no way the Brits and the FRench wouldn't use
Cyprus as their main air force base. Air Force Intel guy seems pretty
convinced that the Turks won't participate (he seemed pretty pissed at
them.)

There still seems to be a lot of confusion over what a military
intervention involving an air campaign would be designed to achieve. It
isn't clear cut for them geographically like in Libya, and you can't just
create an NFZ over Homs, Hama region. This would entail a countrywide SEAD
campaign lasting the duration of the war. They dont believe air
intervention would happen unless there was enough media attention on a
massacre, like the Ghadafi move against Benghazi. They think the US would
have a high tolerance for killings as long as it doesn't reach that very
public stage. Theyre also questiioning the skills of the Syrian forces
that are operating the country's air defenses currently and how
signfiicant the Iranian presence is there. Air Force Intel guy is most
obsessed with the challenge of taking out Syria's ballistic missile
capabilities and chem weapons. With Israel rgiht there and the regime
facing an existential crisis, he sees that as a major complication to any
military intervention.

The post 2011 SOFA with Iraq is still being negotiated. These guys were
hoping that during Biden's visit that he would announce a deal with
Maliki, but no such luck. They are gambling ont he idea that the Iraqis
remember the iran-iraq war and that maliki is not going to want to face
the threat of Iranian jets entering Iraqi air space. THey say that most
US fighter jets are already out of Iraq and transferred to Kuwait. They
explained that's the beauty of the air force, the base in Kuwait is just a
hop, skip and jump away from their bases in Europe, ie. very easy to
rapidly build up when they need to. They don't seem concerned about the
US ability to restructure its forces to send a message to Iran. They gave
the example of the USS Enterprise that was supposed to be out of
commission already and got extended another couple years to send to the
gulf. WHen the US withdraws, we'll have at least 2 carriers in the gulf
out of centcom and one carrier in the Med out of EuCom. I asked if the
build-up in Kuwait and the carrier deployments are going to be enough to
send a message to Iran that the US isn't going anywhere. They responded
that Iran will get the message if they read the Centcom Web Site. STarting
Jan. 1 expect them to be publishing all over the place where the US is
building up.

Another concern they have about an operation in Syria is whether Iran
could impede operations out of Balad air force base in Iraq.

The French representative was of hte opinion that Syria won't be a
libya-type situation in that France would be gung-ho about going in. Not
in an election year. The UK rep also emphasized UK reluctance but said
that the renegotiation of the EU treaty undermines the UK role and that UK
would be looking for ways to reassert itself on the continent ( i dont
really think a syria campaign is the way to do that.) UK guy mentioned as
an aside that the air force base commander at Cyprus got switched out from
a maintenance guy to a guy that flew Raptors, ie someone that understands
what it means to start dropping bombs. He joked that it was probably a
coincidence.

Prior to that, I had a meeting with an incoming Kuwaiti diplomat (will be
coded as KU301.) His father was high up in the regime, always by the
CP's/PM's side. The diplo himself still seems to be getting his feet wet
in DC (the new team just arrived less than 2 weeks ago,) but he made
pretty clear that Kuwait was opening the door to allowing US to build up
forces as needed. THey already have a significant presence there, and a
lot of them will be on 90-day rotations. He also said that the SOFA that
the US signs with Baghdad at the last minute will be worded in such a way
that even allowing one trainer in the country can be construed to mean
what the US wants in terms of keeping forces in Iraq. Overall, I didnt get
the impression from him that Kuwait is freaked out about the US leaving.
Everyhting is just getting rearranged. The Kuwaitis used to be much
better at managing their relations with Iran, but ever since that spy ring
story came out a year ago, it's been bad. He doesn't think Iran has
significant covert capabililiteis in the GCC states, though they are
trying. Iranian activity is mostly propaganda focused. He said that while
KSA and Bahrain they can deal with it as needed and black out the media,
Kuwait is a lot more open and thus provides Iran with more oppotunity to
shape perceptions (he used to work in inforamtion unit in Kuwait.) He says
there is a sig number of kuwaitis that listen to Iranian media like Al
Alam especially.

On the Kuwaiti political scene - the government is having a harder time
dealing with a more emboldened opposition, but the opposition is still
extremely divided, esp among the Islamists. The MPs now all have to go
back to their tribes to rally support for the elections to take place in
Feb. Oftentimes an MP in Kuwait city will find out that he has lost
support back home with the tribe, and so a lot of moeny is handed out.The
govt is hoping that witha clean slate they can quiet the opposition down.
A good way of managing the opposition he said is to refer cases to the
courts, where they can linger forever. good way for the govt to buy time.
He doesnt believe the Arab League will take significant action against
Syria - no one is interested in military intervention. they just say it to
threaten it.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:27 pm


Alien World To Help Out Syria Since This One Refuses To
March 14, 2012 | ISSUE 48•11

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Alien peacekeeping forces are currently being deployed to do what they say humanity “should have done ages ago.”

IMPERIAL CITY, PLANET ZARKLOM 12—Frustrated by "the astonishing incapacity of earthlings to halt the rampant slaughter of their own kind" in Syria, the emperor of Zarklom 12 announced Wednesday he had no choice but to dispatch his own intergalactic forces from 3 million light years away to end the senseless bloodshed.

REST HERE:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/alien- ... fus,27620/

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:31 am

Fools Rush In: April Prank Launches Next American War
Written by Chris Floyd
Monday, 02 April 2012 13:12

Not that anyone cares, but the United States committed itself to yet another war on Sunday -- yes, April Fool's Day -- as the ever-bellicose Hillary Clinton teamed up with the extremist tyrants in Saudi Arabia and other international humanitarians to supply moolah and military materiel to the rebels in Syria.

The self-proclaimed "Friends of Syria" group has now undertaken to pay the salaries of the "Free Syrian Army" and supply the rebel forces, led largely by Islamist factions -- although Western leaders and their parrot-like media still pretend (at least in public) that the armed uprising is aimed at establishing a groovy secular showcase of pluralistic democracy. The fact that sectarian Sunni factions have seized control of the initially unarmed (and largely secular) protests and are now set on a course of "ethnic cleansing" of the Alawite minority, from which much of the regime's ruling class is drawn is, of course, ignored or downplayed by the ubiquitous cheerleaders for Permanent War in our militarist media-political class. To be sure, Alawites are not the only targets; all other "minorities" -- i.e., anyone, including fellow Sunnis, who do not agree with the sectarians' narrow notions -- are also in the cross-hairs of the sectarians as well.

Just before Hillary and the other April Fools played their deadly prank -- a move absolutely guaranteed to lead to more violence and bloodshed -- one of the leading lights of the initial peaceful protests spoke out against the militarization of the resistance to the odious state regime. As AFP reports:


Fadwa Suleiman, an actress who became an icon of Syria's revolution, is furious that her country's peaceful protest movement has been drawn into armed conflict with the regime.

She said she is saddened to see that "the revolution is not going in the right direction, that it is becoming armed, that the opposition which wanted to resist peacefully is playing the game of the regime and that the country is heading for sectarian war".

…Suleiman became a high-profile member of the opposition movement last November when she appeared in footage from the rebel city of Homs that was broadcast on the Al-Jazeera television news network.

The 39-year-old actress, well known in her homeland for her work in theatre, films and television, belongs to the same Alawite religious minority as President Bashar al-Assad.

She says that a major reason for her participation in the protests was to do her bit to stop any slide into a sectarian war between factions of the Sunni Muslim majority, Alawites or Christians.

…And that is why she is furious that those "who are arming the Syrian street are willing to do anything to take power in the same way that Bashar Al-Aaasad is ready to do anything to stay in power."

But Ms Suleiman will mourn in vain for the peaceful revolution that was lost. The rampant militarization of the conflict suits our imperial managers (and their various satraps, clients and dependents around the world) very well. Secretary Clinton and her boss, the war-waging Peace Laureate -- along with the crocodile tear-shedders in Congress, aching to "liberate" the Syrian people by inflicting mass death upon them -- are not very interested in the relative merits or demerits of the forces involved in the Syrian conflict. They don't care if the rebels are "playing the game of the regime" by helping foment sectarian war. They don't care if more and more innocent people, on both sides, are being killed and dispossessed and tormented by the war. They don't care if the repressive Asad family regime is replaced by a repressive sectarian regime or, as in Libya, by a gaggle of warring factions, as a result of the war.

All they care about, in the end, is the war itself -- or rather, war itself. Wherever they find incipient conflict, they are eager to exacerbate it, sustain it -- and feed upon it. We have seen this over and over in the past decades, from the Iran-Iraq War, to Guatemala, to El Salvador, to Nicaragua, to Kosovo, to Somalia, to Yemen, to the Philippines, to Afghanistan (in 1980 and 2001, both cases being an intervention on one side of an ongoing civil war), to Pakistan, to Libya and now to Syria. Almost invariably, the policies adopted by the imperial managers (of both parties) make the conflicts worse, fomenting extremist resistance and ever-more violent repression: a deadly cycle that benefits no one -- except the "masters of war."

For as Paul Craig Roberts notes, our Potomac Poobahs now preside over a new kind of empire. It doesn't conquer and settle territories, doesn't seek fame and glory -- hell, it doesn't even win most of the wars it fights. But it gets the job done: and the job is "extracting resources" from its own subjects to fill the coffers and expand the perks of the rulers. As Roberts writes:

[In a new book, historian Timothy Parsons] wonders whether America’s empire is really an empire as the Americans don’t seem to get any extractive benefits from it. After eight years of war and attempted occupation of Iraq, all Washington has for its efforts is several trillion dollars of additional debt and no Iraqi oil. After ten years of trillion dollar struggle against the Taliban in Afghanistan, Washington has nothing to show for it except possibly some part of the drug trade that can be used to fund covert CIA operations.

America’s wars are very expensive. Bush and Obama have doubled the national debt, and the American people have no benefits from it. No riches, no bread and circuses flow to Americans from Washington’s wars. So what is it all about?

The answer is that Washington’s empire extracts resources from the American people for the benefit of the few powerful interest groups that rule America … The US Constitution has been extracted in the interests of the Security State, and Americans’ incomes have been redirected to the pockets of the 1 percent. ...

In the New Empire success at war no longer matters. The extraction takes place by being at war. Huge sums of American taxpayers’ money have flowed into the American armaments industries and huge amounts of power into Homeland Security. The American empire works by stripping Americans of wealth and liberty.

This is why the wars cannot end, or if one does end another starts … This truth doesn’t mean that the objects of American military aggression have escaped without cost. Large numbers of Muslims have been bombed and murdered and their economies and infrastructure ruined, but not in order to extract resources from them.

It is ironic that under the New Empire the citizens of the empire are extracted of their wealth and liberty in order to extract lives from the targeted foreign populations.

And yet another iteration of this sinister process is gearing up in Syria. It has nothing to do with the murderously repressive nature of the Syrian regime. America's chief ally in the Syrian intervention is Saudi Arabia -- a theocratic-autocratic regime that is, by every measure, far, far more repressive than Syria. The Saudi royals ruthlessly -- and violently -- suppress any peaceful protest against their stifling, draconian rule. They have sent troops and weapons and money to murderously repress peaceful protests in neighbouring Bahrain. Yet Secretary Clinton stood proudly with these murderous repressive tyrants this weekend as she outlined their joint plan to ensure the death and suffering of more people in Syria.

Supplying -- much less paying the salaries! -- of an army on one side in a conflict is generally regarded as an act of war. At least, this was the line taken by the United States government when it was dealing with its own armed uprising awhile back and continually threatened massive retaliation against any nation intervening on the side of the rebels. (A story well told in Amanda Foreman's A World on Fire.)

So mark April Fool's Day 2012 in your calendar as the day the United States officially and openly initiated its latest war. Will it succeed in driving the Assad family from its authoritarian perch in Damascus? Will it liberate the Syrian people into a new life of liberty and prosperity? Will it enthrone radical extremists "willing to do anything to take power" and open the door to sectarian slaughter (as in Iraq)? Who cares? The intervention will set cash registers ringing, and that, my fellow subjects, is, as always, the bottom line.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Nordic » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:05 pm

I love Chris Floyd.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby NeonLX » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:26 pm

Nordic wrote:I love Chris Floyd.


Yeah. Me too.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:55 am

^^^^
Really, an OUTSTANDING article that deftly ties the myriad dots and hydra-arms together of this 'new' form of parasitical extraction-racketeering where the US citizenry are being plundered of their wealth & liberty in order to finance the Pentagon/MIC's lucrative death-export industry.

Quite an evolutionary refinement of the 'old' & slow Economic Hitman business model of indenturing 3rd world nations by bribing or coercing corrupt officials to sign-off on extravagent IMF & World Bank loans to fund engineered-to-fail 'development' projects given to politically-connected US building contractors. Now tho, the scheme is radically simplfied and the payoff-cycle shortened, while the franchises' soaring cost-plus profit-margins are as shamelessly exorbitant as every perfectly-executed high-risk long-con has the right to be -- but minus the pesky odds gamble. The racket is as perfect as can be for the Mil/Intel/finance operators who rake in the pot, while the poor sad-sack suckers & dead meat, fall-guys & bystanders, targetted bad-guys & tuff-luck losers pay the 'price' in blood, health, sanity, lives, misery, anguish & treasure.


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...Washington’s empire extracts resources from the American people for the benefit of the few powerful interest groups that rule America … The US Constitution has been extracted in the interests of the Security State, and Americans’ incomes have been redirected to the pockets of the 1 percent. ...

In the New Empire success at war no longer matters. The extraction takes place by being at war. Huge sums of American taxpayers’ money have flowed into the American armaments industries and huge amounts of power into Homeland Security. The American empire works by stripping Americans of wealth and liberty.

This is why the wars cannot end, or if one does end another starts … This truth doesn’t mean that the objects of American military aggression have escaped without cost. Large numbers of Muslims have been bombed and murdered and their economies and infrastructure ruined, but not in order to extract resources from them.

It is ironic that under the New Empire the citizens of the empire are extracted of their wealth and liberty in order to extract lives from the targeted foreign populations.

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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Ben D » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:10 pm

Syria opposition will never defeat Assad's army, says Russia

Source: AFP 04 Apr 2012

"It is clear as day that even if the Syrian opposition is armed to the teeth, it will not be able to defeat the government's army," Interfax quoted Lavrov as saying while on a visit to the ex-Soviet nation of Azerbaijan. "Instead, there will be carnage that lasts many, many years – mutual destruction," said Lavrov.

Russia has emerged as the Syrian regime's closest ally and has previously sought to protect its Soviet-era trade partner against Western sanctions and possible foreign military intervention.

But Moscow has stepped up its criticism of Assad in recent weeks and has backed along with Arab and Western nations the six-point peace plan put forth by UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan for resolving the year-long crisis.

Lavrov said that two Syrian opposition groups will be visiting Moscow soon and that Russia will be using the meetings to convince them it wants to help end violence that the UN says have claimed more than 9,000 lives.

He added that Syria's foreign minister would also be coming to Moscow on April 10.

"Right now, representatives of one group of the opposition are coming (to Moscow), and a few days later a second group will come from the domestic opposition," Lavrov said without providing further details.

Russia last month said that it planned to soon host members of a moderate opposition group called the National Coordination Committee for Democratic Change in Syria.

"It would make sense to convince them that we also want to help resolve this problem," the RIA Novosti news agency quoted Lavrov as saying.

Russia has also been highly critical of the so-called 'Friends of Syria' meetings that group Western powers and some Arab states.
Its latest conference last weekend in Istanbul recognised the opposition Syrian National Council (SNC) as a "legitimate representative" of all Syrians.

Lavrov called the move counterproductive because it discouraged the rebels from engaging in talks.
"If besides supporting Kofi Annan's plan (nations) also hold 'Friends of Syria' meetings in Istanbul – ones that are aimed at ensuring that the opposition does not agree to negotiations – this only undermines efforts to stop the violence," Lavrov said.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:36 am

10 Alternative Names For The “Friends Of Syria” Conference
February 24, 2012

[Ikhras Note: After publishing our list of 10 alternative names our readers and tweeps have sent us their suggestions. We're happy to add to the list]


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The following are ten alternatives for the sarcastically named “Friends of Syria” conference which would be a more honest and accurate description of the American organized, Arab oil-Sheiks funded spectacle in Tunisia.

1. Friends of Israel Conference

2. Balkanization of Syria Conference

3. Colonial Nostalgia Conference

4. Enemies of Syria Conference

5. Iraq: The Sequel Conference

6. Puppets of the Empire Conference

7. Destroy Hizballah Pre-Conference-Conference

8. We All Got Screwed By Russia Conference

9. Join-Us-For-Free- America’s-Barking-Arab Sheiks-Will-Pay-Conference

10. Kofi Annan’s Cameo Comeback Conference.

11. America Al-Qaeda Reconciliation Conference

12. Libya Chaos 2.0 Conference


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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:06 pm

Over 9000+ reported dead? Is this true? (of course if you're Alex Jones, who thinks the whole thing is a hoax)

If the US military killed 1 US protestor on a college campus, people would be going apeshit.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:27 pm

8bitagent wrote:Over 9000+ reported dead? Is this true? (of course if you're Alex Jones, who thinks the whole thing is a hoax)

If the US military killed 1 US protestor on a college campus, people would be going apeshit.


Yeah, well, in this case, some of the 'protesters' are armed mercenaries pouring into the country from Libya, Iraq and elsewhere. Many of them are religious fanatics, armed to the teeth, and indiscriminately killing members of minorities, as well as government troops. The 'protests' are funded and armed and politically backed by hostile states.

It's not exactly a college campus protest, though it probably started that way, over a year ago. Now it's a civil war. Actually, more like a proxy war.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Ben D » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:54 pm

8bitagent wrote:Over 9000+ reported dead? Is this true? (of course if you're Alex Jones, who thinks the whole thing is a hoax)

If the US military killed 1 US protestor on a college campus, people would be going apeshit.

Well one can forgive your ignorance since MSNBC is your main mainstream news source, but perhaps you should broaden your perspective by using additional resources,...say RT, PressTV, etc..

The bottom line is that the Syrian issue is an attempt by Israel, West, Turkey, pro-west Sunni Arab nations like SA, Qatar, etc., to bring about regime change by exploiting the Sunni- Shiite divide to create civil war. Hence the situation where Israel, USA, etc., are in alliance with Al Quada on the side of the Syrian Sunni against the non-Sunni Assad government and its supporters.

The Syrian dead on both sides are a result of interference by outside powers who then blame the Syrian government for the trouble and use it as a pretext to attempt to persuade the UN to give it the green light to do a Libyan style intervention to finish the job they know very well the Sunni rebels can't finish.

This is just another 'chess' move by the clique in question, in the strategy towards regime change in Iran which in turn is part of the larger geopolitical game of becoming masters of planet Earth. That is why Russia and China aren't rolling over on this one.

Despicable evil!!!
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:39 pm

To Ben D and Alice: Thanks! I greatly value your opinion and have to admit, I haven't been closely following a lot of this stuff for the last year or so.

It's sad to see African immigrants targeted in Libya, or civilians in general killed by either side. It does make sense that the Oil autocrat/Israel/Western side would be aggressively creating a wedge and arming the anti Syrian/Iranian/Hezbollah side.

It's an interesting issue though...Ive often asked people who supported the Iraq war...if China let's say, invaded America...would people fighting back be "terrorist insurgents"?

I always find it odd how Democrat and Republicans who supported the war on terror at any and all financial/life cost would then turn around and support the SAME Islamic militants
in fighting Iran/Syria/Libya/etc.

It's the Balkans all over again...even though the average person thinks US support of Islamic militants ended in 1989.
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Postby Ben D » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:44 am

Syria Sends Letters to UN, Demands Regional, Int’l Sides to Stop Inciting

Al Manar 07-04-2012

Syria sent on Friday two letters to the president of the UN Security Council and the UN secretary general about the crimes committed by armed groups backed by Arab and Western countries, SANA reported Saturday.

According to the Syrian News Agency, the letters stated that "the terrorist acts committed by the armed terrorist groups in Syria have increased during the last few days, particularly after reaching an understanding on Kofi Annan's plan.”

“In addition to the bombings whose preliminary evidence revealed the involvement of Al-Qaeda members… instigation was escalated by some sides that claim they care for Syria and for the success of the UN Special Envoy's mission, while at the same time they act in contrary to Annan's plan and the return of security and stability to Syria,” the letters added.

They further referred to the “unprecedented media instigation” and to the latest meetings on Syria, pointing out that the latter aimed at “shedding more Syrian blood, as some of them announced establishing funds to finance and arm groups committing crimes.”

Moreover, the Syrian letters to the international officials noted that “Syria had provided the Arab monitors' mission and the UN with documents that prove the crimes perpetrated by the armed terrorist groups against civilians and law-enforcement forces in Syria and their countless attacks on private and public properties and infrastructures which have left negative impact on the life of the Syrian citizens.”

After listing the number of martyrs which reached 2,088 among the army and 478 among the police, the Syrian government called upon “all states to assist it in preventing terrorist acts and implementing the international conventions related to terrorism.”
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby StarmanSkye » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:57 pm

The 'united' west's semi-unconventional war in Syria, which aligns a multitude of special-interest actor/states ie. US, Turkey, Israel, EU, UN, Nato, Sunni-Arab National coalition, SA, Quatar, Kuwait, etc., is very similiar to the covert destabilization & proxy-conflicts incited/supported by some of the same interests in the lead-up to the civil war & ethnic conflict that fractured Yugoslavia -- besides the obvious analogy w/ the west's 'management' of the war that devastated Libya.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Ben D » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:51 am

Syria: April 10 Inaccurate Date, No pullback without Guarantees by Militants

Al Manar Local Editor 08-04-2012

Syria said on Sunday it would not pullback its forces from towns without written guarantees by armed groups, adding that April 10 was not an accurate date for the implementation of UN-Arab league envoy Kofi Annan plan.

The foreign ministry said in statement: “To say that Syria will pull back its forces from towns on April 10 is inaccurate, Kofi Annan having not yet presented written guarantees on the acceptance by armed terrorist groups of a halt to all violence”.

"Mr Annan has not submitted written guarantees from the governments of Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey on stopping their funding to terrorist groups," the ministry added. "Syria is not going to repeat what happened in the presence of Arab observers when armed forces left towns," the ministry statement said.

"Armed terrorist groups reorganized and rearmed to control entire neighborhoods, committing every possible terrorist act, killing and kidnapping people and destroying public and private property."

It said that during his meeting in Damascus with President Bashar al-Assad, "Annan said his mission was based on respect for Syrian sovereignty."
"He said he would work to stop the violence, disarm armed groups... initiate a comprehensive national dialogue with opposition movements in Syria," the ministry said, adding that "it is this principle on which Syria accepted Annan's mission and his six-point plan."

The ministry also expressed Syria's willingness to cooperate with the envoy.
"Syria is ready to continue cooperating with Mr Annan and we will continue to inform him of the steps we are taking to implement the plan, in the hope of obtaining documented guarantees," it said.

DAMASCUS HASN'T INFORMED ANNAN OF APRIL 10 AS FINAL DATE


Meanwhile, Syrian Daily al-Watan quoted a high-ranking official as saying that Syria hasn’t informed Annan it would implement the peace plan in April 10 as a final date.

However the official said Damascus has told the UN envoy it had withdrawn heavy weapons from several areas like Homs, Idlib and Zabadani, in order to continue the withdrawal of the remained units and not all till Aril 10.

The official also said that the date was considered as a challenge for Annan in order to make the other side comply with the plan.

“As Damascus has offered a written commitment of Annan proposal, it calls on him to offer written guarantees of the other side’s commitment”.
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