'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide....

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Postby Simulist » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 pm

I took my partner to see War Horse this afternoon.

This is a truly wonderful movie in every way; Academy Award material, most definitely. Not only was the film itself brilliant, but the lead actor, Jeremy Irvine, was also simply magnificent. The story was engaging from start to finish, the characters were believable, and the anti-war messages in the movie were clear and right on.

It would be impossible for me to recommend War Horse more highly. It's a movie for anyone who enjoys the bond that can develop between humans and other animals and the lasting and very real relationships between them that this bond can promise. Ironically perhaps, the warhorse in War Horse, Joey, is a catalyst not only for peace, but for reconciliation also.

A superb achievement in film-making.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:44 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:More straw horses from Nordic who *claims* to be a Hollywood script writer but can't seem to recognize war propaganda.

Golly.There's just no evidence RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES of War-Propaganda-for-Young-Males during the current -we're-out-of-Iraq-as-noble-winners-PSYOPS campaign.

Isn't WAR, just like soldiers with a mission... noble and romantic and beautiful and epic and all buddy buddy and....?

Target audience: youth.
Who want a Big Boy Role in History.
And heroic status.
...cuz, ya see, "war gets you loyal friends."

Film motto-
"Separated by war.
Tested by battle.
Bound by friendship."

Hmm.
"War, battle, friendship"
"War, battle, friendship"
"War, battle, friendship"
"War, battle, friendship"

And as for the author's essay on writing the book...nothing heals urban youth like a good war, right?
Poor horsies. Forget the millions and millions of children destroyed by wars and the miltary's enforced poverty states.



The author was saying that
a) nothing heals youth like a farm break
b) World War i sucked very deep ass

Maybe you dont know being a tea hefting colonial, but WW 1 left a huge impact on the British consciousness - somewhat expected as there was nearly 1 million dead mean, ya know?
It included a brother of each of my grandfathers - one at the Somme, and one HERE Image

Saying this author wrote 'Warhorse' to glorify war reveals a talent for story reversal that the CIA would blush at, not to mention appallingly bad taste.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Please, you can't expect hugh to actually SEE the movies he rants about. Give the guy a break.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Searcher08 wrote:.....
Saying this author wrote 'Warhorse' to glorify war reveals a talent for story reversal that the CIA would blush at, not to mention appallingly bad taste.

Only I didn't say that.

People. STOP the straw man making-stuff-up-to-huff-against routine.

This thread is about TODAY's Spielberg movie IN CONTEXT. Try and focus?
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:09 pm

Simulist wrote:I
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Ironically perhaps, the warhorse in War Horse, Joey, is a catalyst not only for peace, but for reconciliation also.

A superb achievement in film-making.


OMG. Love that WARhorse. Bond. Friends. Tested.
This angle of psyops...during the bogus 'end of the Difficult-But-Noble Iraq War'....is beyond you? How do kidz see the advertising?
Have you heard the veteran interviews on National Propaganda Radio?

The thing with people living in psyops since WWI is that, like fish in water, they don't notice it or get how it effects people other than themselves.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Sepka » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:13 pm

Hugh, you're undoubtedly the only person on the face of the earth who could interpret 'War Horse' as pro-war. It's really kind of an impressive talent in its own way.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:15 pm

IanEye wrote:
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Hollywood has been a war factory since WWI.
Spielberg has been on that gameplan all his career.

And lately it has been noticed.
So what better move to cover up a lonsg-standing agenda than to be ambiguous?...to some, that is.
I think this thread shows the value of the tactic.

It is a tactic that goes back to 1939 and 'Babes in Arms' starring Judy Garland and MIckey Rooney.
The movie's goal is to rouse American youth for the upcoming war.
One of the tactics is to gain rapport with some anti-war plot devices thrown in to mask the over-all agenda.

Do watch that one, Nordic.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:21 pm

Sepka wrote:Hugh, you're undoubtedly the only person on the face of the earth who could interpret 'War Horse' as pro-war. It's really kind of an impressive talent in its own way.

The same tactic was used after the Vietnam War.

Movies that were alleged to be anti-war were used to mask real world events much worse than the fictional script given to us to tsk-tsk.

'MASH' was used to hide months of atrocities by Tiger Force.
'Apocalypse Now' was used to hide Operation Tailwind.
'Full Metal Jacket' was used to hide the assassination of JFK to keep the Vietnam War on track.

Plus there are moments when CIA-Pentagon-Hollywood needs to cloak its real agenda under scrutiny.
Now is one of those moments.

As usual, you all are leaving out the fact that the advertising is the biggest psychological footprint on the public, not the movie's two hours of watching.
And context.
And the ad/DVD poster effect on kidz.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Simulist » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:23 pm

Simulist wrote:I took my partner to see War Horse this afternoon.

This is a truly wonderful movie in every way; Academy Award material, most definitely. Not only was the film itself brilliant, but the lead actor, Jeremy Irvine, was also simply magnificent. The story was engaging from start to finish, the characters were believable, and the anti-war messages in the movie were clear and right on.

It would be impossible for me to recommend War Horse more highly. It's a movie for anyone who enjoys the bond that can develop between humans and other animals and the lasting and very real relationships between them that this bond can promise. Ironically perhaps, the warhorse in War Horse, Joey, is a catalyst not only for peace, but for reconciliation also.

A superb achievement in film-making.

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:OMG. Love that WARhorse. Bond. Friends. Tested.
This angle of psyops...during the bogus 'end of the Difficult-But-Noble Iraq War'....is beyond you? How do kidz see the advertising?
Have you heard the veteran interviews on National Propaganda Radio?

The thing with people living in psyops since WWI is that, like fish in water, they don't notice it or get how it effects people other than themselves.

You don't know what you're talking about, Hugh. Noticeably, this is your current method of operation.

In War Horse, war was shown as pointless slaughter and a total waste of lives. In fact, two deserters were given sympathetic treatment in the film.

Unless you can post something that isn't observably — and totally — bullshit, please do refrain.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:32 pm

Simulist wrote:
Unless you can post something that isn't observably — and totally

See above. Two minutes before your post.

Do you claim that Hollywood has not been a war propaganda factory since WWII?
Do you claim that Spielberg has not been a mil-intel psyoperator all his career?
Do you claim there is NO psyops value to this production/ad campaign in context?
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Simulist » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
Simulist wrote:
Unless you can post something that isn't observably — and totally

See above. Two minutes before your post.

Do you claim that Hollywood has not been a war propaganda factory since WWII?
Do you claim that Spielberg has not been a mil-intel psyoperator all his career?
Do you claim there is NO psyops value to this production/ad campaign in context?

I claim that you don't know what the hell you're talking about most of the time now.
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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:37 pm

Simulist wrote:
Simulist wrote:I the warhorse in War Horse, Joey, is a catalyst not only for peace, but for reconciliation also..

Oh, and is there "peace and reconciliation?"
Or a few weeks breather before the next phase of the permanent economic war system and post-9/11 permanent oil occupation?
DUH!
Sorry, that was unkind. But dammit, get real. Sentimental slop is dished out to keep the system going.
In War Horse, war was shown as pointless slaughter and a total waste of lives.

WRONG. World War One may be shown as blah blah....but it wasn't the "War to End all Wars," was it?

War is not ending, is it? Get it? Just a breather as momentary relief and to hide that Hollywood IS the Pentagon and CIA.
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Postby Simulist » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:41 pm

You are a crank, Hugh.

And sadly, perhaps even tragically, you've done more in your career here to poison the well concerning an awareness of psyops in the mainstream media culture than you have done to illuminate.
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Postby DrVolin » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:51 pm

I might just have to see that film.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: 'War Whores,' Spielberg's latest film, opens legs wide..

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:56 pm

Simulist wrote:You are a crank, Hugh.

And sadly, perhaps even tragically, you've done more in your career here to poison the well concerning an awareness of psyops in the mainstream media culture than you have done to illuminate.


Show me your CIA analysis threads.

The Psyops and Meme Management forum was almost single-handedly filled by me with history and science-
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