What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

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What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby fruhmenschen » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:00 pm

2 reads
1st read
U.S. Law Enforcement Officials Continue to Trek to Israel to Learn About Terrorism
By Allan Lengel
ticklethewire.com
see link for full story
http://www.ticklethewire.com/2012/04/18 ... terrorism/

U.S. law enforcement officials continue to trek to Israel to learn a thing or two about dealing with terrorism and homeland security.

The latest group included Assistant D.C. police chief Diane Groomes and U.S. Park Police Deputy Chief Robert MacLean of the U.S. Park Police, the Associated Press reported.

The week-long trip, completed last month, was sponsored by the Anti-Defamation League as part of of an ongoing program to show American authorities how Israel deals with the ongoing threats.


2nd read

The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html









A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby operator kos » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:56 pm

relevant:

Oakland Police Trained Alongside Bahrain Military and Israeli Forces Prior to Violent Occupy Oakland Raid

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2011/12/04/prior-to-violent-occupy-oakland-raid-opd-trained-alongside-bahrain-military-and-israeli-border-forces/
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby fruhmenschen » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:04 pm

for the uneducated and the uneducable

high school dropout can't find work so he joins the Marines to Semper Fi
and collect some money.
High school dropout is sent to Paris Island to be all he can be. He is trained to kill women and children and a occasional freedom fighter trying to protect his wife from being raped by Mr Semper Fi.
High school dropout ships out to invade Iraq for USEmpire and US oil companies.
American oil companies are struggling with the problem of Peak Oil.
Peak oil means we no longer have a infinite supply of oil.Maybe you saw the documentary film END OF SUBURBIA see
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/previews.htm

high school drop out didn't because his high school teachers were too busy DUMBING him down
see
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstor ... nblum1.htm

High School dropout manages to kill a couple hundred women and children while throwing in a occasional rape. Mr Sempi Fi has now been transformed into Mr serial killer.
Mr high school dropout/serial killer now begins to experience extreme depression from his actions. Mental Wealth workers call it Post Traumatic
Stress Syndrome. But the only people who experience traumatic stress in Iraq are the Iraqi women being raped by Semper Fi's before they shot and killed them.
Good thing serial killer/high school dropout has never read the research
of Ian Stevenson MD whose groundbreaking study of 3,000 children who remember previous lives provides the science for the existence of reincarnation. see
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... enson.html

What this means for high school dropout is that he will be coming back
again for another life . Of course so will the people he murdered , so for practical purposes he has another couple hundred lives he has to live getting "wacked" by the life forms he semper fi'd.

The difference this time is the raped and murdered have had some time to ponder while they wait for him to pass over, how they will "do" Mr Semper Fi- the high school drop out serial killer.

Mr high school dropout comes back from Iraq out of work unless he re-enlists. There are not to many job openings for serial killers until he lands a job working with his be all you can be buddies at the local police department or the FBI.
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby Simulist » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:08 pm

What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

A "death-loving super-student" with a different gig?
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby sunny » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:31 pm

A cousin of the 'Israeli art student'.
Choose love
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:51 pm

Fru, your typo above is priceless:

"Mental Wealth"

I have just registered the trademark on that and the self-help book is being written now. Look for my daytime tv talk show sometime in 2014.


As I prowl back and forth on the stage with the microphone: "I don't want you to just have mental health. I want you to go beyond that, to mental Wealth!"

Maybe at that point one of those serial killers would just shoot me.
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 pm

I'd have to agree. Dancing Israeli is a parent genus or subset of mall kiosk spy, art student, ecstacy drug transporter and performance art students in relation to the "pre 9/11 Israeli spy" mythos
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby MinM » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:43 am

8bitagent » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:32 pm wrote:I'd have to agree. Dancing Israeli is a parent genus or subset of mall kiosk spy, art student, ecstacy drug transporter and performance art students in relation to the "pre 9/11 Israeli spy" mythos

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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:55 am

funny dancing Israelis turn into dancing Muslims :P

who's using who here?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby 82_28 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:22 pm

Thousands and thousands of them! All in anticipation of what they already seemingly knew was going to happen. Uh, yeah, sure. Did fucking Tonald Dump know what was going to happen as he is a NYC developer and I am sure rubbed elbows with WTC management? I am sure as a developer he knows many, many architects. Good architects. The very, very best architects in the country.
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby tapitsbo » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:29 pm

8bitagent » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 pm wrote:I'd have to agree. Dancing Israeli is a parent genus or subset of mall kiosk spy, art student, ecstacy drug transporter and performance art students in relation to the "pre 9/11 Israeli spy" mythos


Interesting how conspira-mythos has evolved into self-organizing origami - so different from those days after 9/11 - something to be grateful for
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby MinM » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:16 pm

ImageGlobal Research ‏@CRG_CRM Nov 27

Israelis – Not Muslims – Cheered in Jersey City on 9/11 http://ow.ly/VaHF7
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@MaxBlumenthal Nov 27

Trump was almost right: Some people were arrested for celebrating 9/11 — but they were Israeli (likely Mossad)

The Dancing Israelis
Trump was right about 9/11 but they weren't Muslims

Philip Giraldi • December 1, 2015 •

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Senator Rand Paul, supported by a number of other congressmen, has demanded that the 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report that explored the Saudi Arabian role in the terrorist attack be made public. The redacted section of the report, which apparently concluded that the Saudi government itself played no direct role in 9/11, nevertheless contained considerable evidence suggesting that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda. Some who have actually read the 28 pages were reported to be shocked by what was revealed.

Recent comments by presidential aspirant Donald Trump indicating that he was aware of people celebrating the terrorist attack in New Jersey, whom he described as “Muslims” numbering in their thousands, might well be regarded as misremembering events that took place over fourteen years ago. Or it could just possibly be part of a deliberate scheme to establish a false narrative that would fit nicely with Trump’s stated desire to surveil mosques, waterboard suspects and subject all Muslims to extraordinary scrutiny by the police.

The Trump over-the-top comments were greeting with disbelief and debunked by many media pundits. They were even denounced by some Republicans competing with him for the GOP nomination. But what is really astonishing about the reaction was the failure to connect the dots with what actually happened on 9/11. There were indeed people celebrating as the Twin Towers were burning and collapsing, but they were not Muslims. They were Israelis.

If the Saudi role in 9/11 is still classified secret it is regrettable, but the Israeli role, insofar as can be determined, was never seriously investigated at all and any conclusions, if there were any, were never included in the final report. This time around with the story being resurfaced by Trump one would think that a journalist or two just might be able to make the connection and realize that Donald may have actually been referring to a reported incident involving Israelis rather than Arabs and that he is possibly confusing one with the other.

But of course no one in the mainstream media did pick up on the connection, inhibited no doubt by the understanding that there are some things that one just does not write about Israel if one hopes to remain employed. That is true in spite of the fact that the Israeli angle to 9/11 is without a doubt a good story, one that has never been satisfactorily explored, but it is a tale that will have to remain mired in the alternative media where it can be marginalized by critics as a conspiracy theory or the product of anti-Semitism.

So for the benefit of Mr. Trump and for anyone else who might be interested, I will take it upon myself to relate what happened. Quite possibly Senator Paul will read this and decide that giving billions of dollars in aid annually to a country that just might have been linked to what occurred on 9/11 might no longer be a good idea. He might even demand an inquiry or a commission to look into it and determine what exactly the U.S. government does and does not know. That would be very interesting.

In the year 2001 Israel was running a massive spying operation directed against Muslims either resident or traveling in the United States. The operation included the creation of a number of cover companies in New Jersey, Florida and also on the west coast that served as spying mechanisms for Mossad officers. The effort was supported by the Mossad Station in Washington D.C. and included a large number of volunteers, the so-called “art students” who traveled around the U.S. selling various products at malls and outdoor markets. The FBI was aware of the numerous Israeli students who were routinely overstaying their visas and some in the Bureau certainly believed that they were assisting their country’s intelligence service in some way, but it proved difficult to actually link the students to actual undercover operations, so they were regarded as a minor nuisance and were normally left to the tender mercies of the inspectors at the Bureau of Customs and Immigration.

American law enforcement was also painfully aware that the Israelis were running more sophisticated intelligence operations inside the United States, many of which were focused on Washington’s military capabilities and intentions. Some specialized intelligence units concentrated on obtaining military and dual use technology. It was also known that Israeli spies had penetrated the phone systems of the U.S. government, to include those at the White House.

In its annual classified counterespionage review, the FBI invariably places Israel at the top for “friendly” countries that spy on the U.S. In fact, the pre-9/11 Bureau did its best to stay on top of the problem, but it rarely received any political support from the Justice Department and White House if an espionage case involved Israelis. By one estimate, more than 100 such cases were not prosecuted for political reasons. Any Israeli caught in flagrante would most often be quietly deported and most Americans who were helping Israel were let off with a slap on the wrist.

But the hands-off attitude towards Israel shifted dramatically when, on September 11, 2001, a New Jersey housewife saw something from the window of her apartment building, which overlooked the World Trade Center. She watched as the buildings burned and crumbled but also noted something strange. Three young men were kneeling on the roof of a white transit van parked by the water’s edge, making a movie in which they featured themselves high fiving and laughing in front of the catastrophic scene unfolding behind them. The woman wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police, who responded quickly and soon both the local force and the FBI began looking for the vehicle, which was subsequently seen by other witnesses in various locations along the New Jersey waterfront, its occupants “celebrating and filming.”

The license plate number revealed that the van belonged to a New Jersey registered company called Urban Moving Systems. At 4 p.m. the vehicle was spotted and pulled over. Five men between the ages of 22 and 27 years old emerged. They were detained at gunpoint and handcuffed. They were all Israelis. One of them had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock and another had two foreign passports. Bomb sniffing dogs reacted to the smell of explosives in the van.

According to the initial police report, the driver identified as Sivan Kurzberg, stated “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” The four other passengers were Sivan’s brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men were detained at the Bergen County jail in New Jersey before being transferred the FBI’s Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which handles allegations of spying.

After the arrest, the FBI obtained a warrant to search Urban Moving System’s Weehawken, N.J., offices. Papers and computers were seized. The company owner Dominick Suter, also an Israeli, answered FBI questions but when a follow-up interview was set up a few days later it was learned that he had fled the country for Israel, putting both his business and home up for sale. The office space and warehouse were abandoned. It was later learned that Suter has been associated with at least fourteen businesses in the United States, mostly in New Jersey and New York but also in Florida. Suter and his wife Omit Levinson Suter were the owners of 1 Stop Cleaner located in Wellington Florida and Dominick was also associated with Basia McDonnell, described as a Polish “holocaust survivor,” as a business partner in yet another business called Value Ad. Florida was a main focus for the Israeli intelligence operation in the U.S. that was directed against Arabs.

The five Israelis were held in Brooklyn, initially on charges relating to visa fraud. FBI interrogators questioned them for more than two months. Several were held in solitary confinement so they could not communicate with each other and two of them were given repeated polygraph exams, which they failed when claiming that they were nothing more than students working summer jobs. The two men that the FBI focused on most intensively were believed to be Mossad staff officers and the other three were volunteers helping with surveillance.

The Israelis were not exactly cooperative, but the FBI concluded from documents obtained at their office in Weehawken that they were targeting Arabs in New York and New Jersey, most particularly in the Paterson N.J. area, which has the second largest Muslim population in the U.S. They were particularly interested in local groups possibly linked to Hamas and Hezbollah as well as in charities that might be used for fund raising. The FBI also concluded that there was a distinct possibility that the Israelis had actually monitored the activities of at least two of the 9/11 hijackers.

To be sure, working on an intelligence operation does not necessarily imply participation in either the planning or execution of something like 9/11, but there are Israeli fingerprints all over the place, with cover companies and intelligence personnel often intersecting with locations frequented by the hijackers. And even possessing bits and pieces relating to the plot does not necessarily imply significant prior knowledge of it.

Apart from the interrogations of the five men from Weehawken, the U.S. government has apparently never sought to find out what else the Israelis might have known or were up to in September 2011. There are a lot a dots that might well have been connected once upon a time, but the trail has grown cold. Police records in New Jersey and New York where the men were held have disappeared and FBI interrogation reports are inaccessible. Media coverage of the case also died, though the five were referred to in the press as the “dancing Israelis” and by some, more disparagingly, as the “dancing Shlomos.”

Inevitably, the George W. Bush White House intervened. After 71 days in detention, the five Israelis were released from prison, put on a plane, and deported. Two of the men later spoke about their unpleasant experience in America on an Israeli talk show, one explaining that their filming the fall of the Twin Towers was to “document the event.” In 2004 the five men sued the United States government for damages, alleging “that their detention was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses.” They were represented by Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, who in the previous year had founded the Shurat HaDin Israel Law Center which seeks to bankrupt groups that Israel considers to be “terrorists.” Shurat HaDin is closely tied to the Israeli government.

Now it is just possible that the Urban Moving Israelis were indeed uninvolved in 9/11 but nevertheless working for Mossad, which one has to suspect is the case. More than fourteen years later it is perhaps past time to reveal what exactly the FBI knew and currently knows about both the scale and modus operandi of Israeli espionage in the United States. Did Israel have critical intelligence either in broad outline or possibly in specific detail about 9/11 and let it happen to bind Washington more closely to it in a “global war on terror?” If Senator Rand Paul wants to learn more about the Saudis, it is fair to ask “What about Israel?” If Donald Trump wants to pillory fictional celebrating Muslims it is perhaps appropriate that he begin to take note of the actual celebrating Israelis who were caught in the act on 9/11.

http://www.unz.com/article/the-dancing-israelis/
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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:18 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:55 am wrote:funny dancing Israelis turn into dancing Muslims :P

who's using who here?



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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:52 am

It's still the weirdest thing about 9/11. Like many people I get annoyed by the idiot "Jews did 9/11", but there is smoke to the fire. Be it the Israeli spies living next to the hijackers in Florida, or the massive art student spy ring, the B-Thing art group in the WTC connected to Florida, or the alleged white vans of Israelis in NYC and NJ the day of the attacks. So when the media went nuts over Trumps "Muslims celebrating in NJ" meme, I knew not a mention of the alleged "5 dancing Israelis" would be mentioned. Certainly not in the alternative left blogs. Netanyahu truly did say the attacks were very very good for Israel" immediately after.

I also still very much believe everything ISIS does benefits Israel more than any other nation. ISIS is attacking Syria, Lebanon, Iraqi Sunnis, Hamas, Palestine and every Shiite out there.

Yet I still do not know what to make of it. Maybe one day these weird mysteries will be explained.

Here's one take on the "dancing Israelis" fwiw

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Re: What the hell is a dancing Israeli?

Postby solace » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:26 pm

Here's how the original witness described the aforementioned Israelis:

" MARIA: Like a few minutes must have gone on, and all of a sudden down there I see this van park. And I see three guys on top of the van, and I'm trying, you know, to look at the building but what caught my attention, they seemed to be taking a movie.

MILLER: (VO) Maria says the three young men were kneeling on the roof of a white van. It was parked right here. They were taking pictures of each other with the World Trade Center burning in the background.
MARIA: And I could see that they were, like, happy, you know? They--they--they weren't--they didn't look shocked to me, you know? They didn't look shocked. I thought it was very strange."

http://web.archive.org/web/200210032254 ... 20621.html

Any of you see any reference to any DANCING for Christ's sake? Any? NO.

So where did that propagandist description come from? Right wing assholes no doubt and the left wing truther fools who fall for anything. Rigorous Intuition my ass. More like Rigorous Brainwashing: two chairs no waiting.
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