countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

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FourthBase » Wed May 22, 2013 7:38 am wrote:Still absorbing. In the meantime...

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IanEye » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:49 am wrote:http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=378623#p378623
IanEye wrote:
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if i must interact with the invisible hand, i'd at least like to know who it is attached to....

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vanlose kid wrote:right. didn't get it the first time around. honestly thought you were referencing adam smith.

it seems you're trying to be cute. want to accuse me of being a sock-puppet without coming right out and saying it?

stupid f*ing blowhard.

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in the spirit of openness, i am literally showing you, and anyone else who cares to read this board, who i am.
the human being being the avatar.

i was inspired by the Wombat to do this in the past.
he never asked me to do it then, and i ask of no one to do it now.

i'll leave it to the collected readership of this discussion board to decide for themselves if i was acting in bad faith with this action.

to suggest that i have the power to travel back in time to force Ralph Nader to appear on Sesame Street, only so i can return to the present to make a point on this thread is according me far more power than i have ever claimed or asked for.

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maybe it sounds mean
but i really don't think so
you asked for the truth and eye told you.

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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby MinM » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Image @thedailybeast: Are we over-idolizing of JFK? http://thebea.st/171Z7Js

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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby MinM » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:22 pm

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Postby IanEye » Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:17 pm

ha! You beat me to it.
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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:04 am

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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:01 pm

So gross. All loose ends attacked: even the five-year confiscation of the Zapruder film.

At least it looks unwatchable. Stopped the trailer halfway through to prevent gagging, not from the lies, but from the syrup. Typical Hanks fare.
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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:34 pm

Has anyone here seen the film Executive Action, made in 1973 and directed by David Miller? I haven't, yet, but it's recommended today in a blogpost by Mathias Bröckers, who also mentions that the film was withdrawn from circulation only two weeks after its premiere - "Not because it was badly made or even poorly cast (Burt Lancaster, a veritable star, played the lead [alongside Robert Ryan]), but because it presents a background to the assassination -- the military-industrial complex -- that comes far closer to the truth than either the lone-gunman hypothesis or any [imagined] conspiracy of Mafia bosses."

Executive Action in full (91:40) on YouTube:



Wiki entry on Executive Action (1973):

The criticism of the film and its suggestion of a Military-industrial complex conspiracy led to the film being removed totally from the movie theaters by early December 1973 and getting no TV/Video runs until the 1980s and mid-1990s, when it got legal release and distribution for TV and video. The film was originally released on November 7, 1973, almost two weeks before the tenth anniversary of the JFK Assassination.

Donald Sutherland has been credited as having the idea for the film and for hiring Freed and Lane to write the screenplay.[2] Sutherland planned to act in and produce Executive Action, however, he abandoned the project and took a role in another film after failing to obtain financing for the film. [2]

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Donald Sutherland wanted Executive Action subtitled CIA

Postby MinM » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:13 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:34 pm wrote:Has anyone here seen the film Executive Action, made in 1973 and directed by David Miller? I haven't, yet, but it's recommended today in a blogpost by Mathias Bröckers, who also mentions that the film was withdrawn from circulation only two weeks after its premiere - "Not because it was badly made or even poorly cast (Burt Lancaster, a veritable star, played the lead [alongside Robert Ryan]), but because it presents a background to the assassination -- the military-industrial complex -- that comes far closer to the truth than either the lone-gunman hypothesis or any [imagined] conspiracy of Mafia bosses."

The praise and critiques are all valid .. here's some more background on it ..
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8bitagent wrote:Can anyone recommend films in league with Network, Blow Out, The Shining, Taxi Driver, Parallax View, THX 1138, 2001, 2001, Seconds, etc? It seems like that 68-81 period yielded some of the best cinema ever. Actually more specific films with an "RI" element.


A forgotten one: Executive Action starring Burt Lancaster. 1973. Watched in context of the time, it's revealing.

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BTW a few other Burt Lancaster films in this genre...

Seven Days in May (1964)
Executive Action (1973)
Twilight's Last Gleaming (1978)
The Osterman Weekend (1983)

MinM » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:57 am wrote:
The Omega Man wrote:Executive Action with Burt Lancaster


Mark Lane, the man who wrote Executive Action, gives some background on that movie at the 37 minute mark of this interview.
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more Mark Lane...

Mark Lane wrote Executive Action with Donald Freed and Dalton Trumbo (one of the 'Hollywood 10').
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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby IanEye » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:45 pm

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looking a bit like Dulles



in JFK & the Unspeakable, the author outlines how a President can piss off the powers that be ala the Bay of Pigs only so many times before they decide to get rid of that President.

in Executive Action, Will Geer plays a wealthy industrialist who holds off several times on green lighting the assassination, but when JFK looks like he will not be a disciple of the Domino Theory in regards to Viet Nam, Geer's character finally gets involved in the plot.

It's pretty awesome that Geer could go from playing this role and then segue into the role of Grandpa Walton for six years.
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Postby KeenInsight » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:03 pm

Indeed typical of Tom Hanks movie that "Parkland." None of what I saw in that film trailer even implies the totality of the events, like the governor waving off the guards that were supposed to stand on the president's motorcade, and those same guards being utterly perplexed - all caught on camera. It doesn't really explore anything, not even whistleblower paid assassins testimonies, not even the thousands of witness deaths (even FBI agents), other than to regurgitate the official narrative.

Oliver Stone's JFK is really the 'closest' to exploring the alternative - the unthinkable - of what happened at the forefront and behind the scenes, even if some of it was speculative, since that's all that could be done - connect the dots and posit possible motives of coverup. It also didn't really depict Garrison as how he was, but I thought Costner delivered one of the most emotional speeches, in that movie, I have ever seen regarding the subject and its implication for the future of the U.S.

A real, modern JFK movie to me would explore the entirety, and all the oddities, and simply imagine the 'narrative' (since all the facts can't be known) of what was going through the conspirators minds and who may have been pulling the strings. Sort of like the 'smoking man' of the X-Files, who is imagined to be an deep-state operative who was involved in shooting JFK and MLK, and setting up patsies.
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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby MinM » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:15 pm

IanEye » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:45 pm wrote:
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looking a bit like Dulles



in JFK & the Unspeakable, the author outlines how a President can piss off the powers that be ala the Bay of Pigs only so many times before they decide to get rid of that President.

in Executive Action, Will Geer plays a wealthy industrialist who holds off several times on green lighting the assassination, but when JFK looks like he will not be a disciple of the Domino Theory in regards to Viet Nam, Geer's character finally gets involved in the plot.

It's pretty awesome that Geer could go from playing this role and then segue into the role of Grandpa Walton for six years.

Forgot about Will Geer. So, counting Dalton Trumbo, there were at least two from the Hollywood Blacklist that worked on Executive Action.

Speaking of 'Executive Action' .. the recent revelations about Dag Hammarskjöld help to shine a light on EAs ..
@lisapease: A CIA operative named Bud Culligan told the Church Committee he had participated in CIA "EA's" - "executive actions," i.e., assassinations.

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...In a curious episode, Daniel Schorr once questioned whether the CIA was behind the murder. The question must be set in its original context.

In January of 1975, President Ford was hosting a White House luncheon for New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger, among others, when the subject of the Rockefeller commission came up. One of the Times’ editors questioned the overtly conservative, pro-military bent of the appointees. Ford explained that he needed trustworthy citizens who would not stray from the narrowly defined topics to be investigated so they wouldn’t pursue matters which could damage national security and blacken the reputation of the last several Presidents. "Like what?" came the obvious question, from A. M. Rosenthal. "Like assassinations!" said clumsy ex-Warren Commission member Ford, who added quickly, "That’s off the record!" But Schorr took the question to heart, and wondered what Ford was hiding. Shortly after this episode, Schorr went to William Colby, then CIA Director, and asked him point blank, "Has the CIA ever killed anybody in this country?" Colby’s reply was, "Not in this country." "Who?" Schorr pressed. "I can’t talk about it," deferred Colby. The first name to spring to Schorr’s lips was not Lumumba, Trujillo, or even Castro. It was Hammarskjold...

The reference to cooperation between MI5 and CIA is not farfetched either. British and American interests worked together to defeat Mossadegh in Iran. In his book that was originally banned in Britain for revealing too many state secrets, former MI5 officer Peter Wright described how William Harvey, the head of the CIA’s "Executive Action" programs, accompanied by CIA Counterintelligence Chief James Angleton, visited MI5 in 1961 to ask for help finding assassins. And according to Paul Lashmar in his book Britain’s Secret Propaganda War 1948-1997, the British secretly aided in the overthrow of Sukarno in 1965, a coup for which the CIA bears a great deal of responsibility. ...

Confessions of a Hitman

In 1976, Roland "Bud" Culligan sought legal assistance. After serving the CIA for 25 years, Culligan was angry. He had performed sensitive operations for the company and felt he deserved better treatment than to be put in jail on a phony bad check charge so the agency could "protect" him from foreign intelligence agents. He had been jailed since 1971, and now the agency was disavowing any connection with him. His personal assets had mysteriously vanished, and his wife Sara was being harassed. But Culligan had kept one very important card up his sleeve. He had kept a detailed journal of every assignment he had performed for the CIA. He had dates, names, places. And Culligan was a professional assassin.

Culligan sought the aid of a lawyer who in turn required some corroborative information. The lawyer asked Culligan to provide explicit details, such as who had recruited him into the CIA, who was his mutual friend with Victor Marchetti, and could he describe in detail six executive action (E.A.) assignments. Culligan answered each request. One of the executive actions he detailed was his assignment to kill Dag Hammarskjold...

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Re: countdown to 11/22/13: JFK disinfo in multi-media

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:59 am

KeenInsight » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:03 pm wrote:Indeed typical of Tom Hanks movie that "Parkland." None of what I saw in that film trailer even implies the totality of the events, like the governor waving off the guards that were supposed to stand on the president's motorcade, and those same guards being utterly perplexed - all caught on camera. It doesn't really explore anything, not even whistleblower paid assassins testimonies, not even the thousands of witness deaths (even FBI agents), other than to regurgitate the official narrative.

Oliver Stone's JFK is really the 'closest' to exploring the alternative - the unthinkable - of what happened at the forefront and behind the scenes, even if some of it was speculative, since that's all that could be done - connect the dots and posit possible motives of coverup. It also didn't really depict Garrison as how he was, but I thought Costner delivered one of the most emotional speeches, in that movie, I have ever seen regarding the subject and its implication for the future of the U.S.

A real, modern JFK movie to me would explore the entirety, and all the oddities, and simply imagine the 'narrative' (since all the facts can't be known) of what was going through the conspirators minds and who may have been pulling the strings. Sort of like the 'smoking man' of the X-Files, who is imagined to be an deep-state operative who was involved in shooting JFK and MLK, and setting up patsies.


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Postby norton ash » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:05 pm

Whoa. I saw Executive Action at a drive-in theatre with a fatherless friend and his 'Big Brother" probably in 1973. (Taking curious and bloodthirsty boys to grown-up movies was one 'cool' thing a Big Brother could do.) We yakked about it after, and the Big Brother told us something along the lines of "a lot of people think that's what happened to the Kennedys and Martin Luther King... powerful people wanted them dead."

O youth, O little seeds of doubt.

Executive Action would show up on TV late movies for awhile in the 70's - 80's... I can remember watching it late at night in Ottawa in the early 80's... but I haven't seen it come around much since.
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