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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:59 am

Becuz of the migration from the old forum software to the new software WAY back in tha day before your time - ya whippersnapper.

conniption » 19 Jul 2017 10:25 wrote:Why are the older threads nearly impossible to read?
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby brekin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:13 pm

elfismiles wrote:Becuz of the migration from the old forum software to the new software WAY back in tha day before your time - ya whippersnapper.
conniption » 19 Jul 2017 10:25 wrote:Why are the older threads nearly impossible to read?


These references come in handy for older threads.

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:20 pm

Thanks conniption.

As the OP with an ongoing interest in this near-dead thread, I appreciate the updated input about the revelations in Tom Secker and Matthew Alford’s latest report, “National Security Cinema”.

As a follow-up to Alford’s earlier, “Reel Power” it exposes the DOD/CIA/NSA censorship of films seeking military support through Production Assistance Agreements with the military contractors, including CIA’s Chase Brandon and DOD’s Phil Strub at the Office of Entertainment Liaison.

Like any corporation or organization operating with a PR department, the Pentagon likes to manage how its powerful weaponry is depicted, portrayed and promoted in accord with the prevailing political and propaganda policies in play. It can be especially coercive when the film producer needs permission to use official military equipment, personnel and history for vivid verisimilitude in the presentation.

The problem is that the goal of reality is distorted and lost in the obligated editing and imposed political spin.

Commercial compromise with censoring sponsors creates Hollywood hypocrisy by painting only positive and glorious patriotic stars and stripes to cover the corruption, manipulation, mass destruction and devastation of humanity always implicit in warmongering. The government will only sanction its overt supporters.

So the big blockbusters obediently wave the flag while the conscientious cinema verite’ goes underground, buried beneath the weight of non-compliance, obscurity and official undermining.

The truth will set you free – except in the film business.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby conniption » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:23 pm

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Who is Volodymyr Zelensky?

By Nauman Sadiq
March 18, 2022


Amidst Russia’s impending Ukraine invasion last month while the rest of the world was panicking, there was one man with nerves made of steel who was as stoically calm and nonchalant as a monk meditating amidst an earthquake. Ironically, the Zen monk urging Western policymakers not to exaggerate the Russia invasion threat lest foreign investors and tourists flee the country was none other than the credulous president of Ukraine.

Either President Zelensky was too naïve to understand the consequences of the imminent invasion or he not only had forewarning but in fact had a vital role in orchestrating the Russo-Ukraine War during his three-year presidency in order to accomplish the top-secret mission assigned to him by his mentors in Western intelligence agencies.

Born to Jewish parents in a town in central Ukraine in Jan. 1978, his early life remains shrouded in mystery. Volodymyr Zelensky was groomed by covert CIA operatives in Ukraine since his student life while he was studying law at the Kryvyi Rih National University.

Instead of pursuing a legal career, he chose acting as a profession at the behest of his influential patrons to gain nationwide publicity, particularly through comedy television series “Servant of the People” in which Zelensky “prophetically played” the role of the Ukrainian president.

In fact, his production company Kvartal 95, which produces films, cartoons and television shows, was generously funded by deep pockets of Western security agencies. Comically exposing corruption and sleazy dealings of Ukraine’s politician and oligarch, the series “Servant of the People” aired from 2015 to 2019 and struck a chord with Ukrainian masses.

Western security agencies not only lavishly funded his obscure media organization but also introduced him to a clandestine cabal of illustrious Hollywood producers and directors adept in psychological warfare and public relationing. The media success of “Servant of the People” is attributed as much to the efforts of the employees of Kvartal 95 as to the skill of international media organizations specializing in global opinion-making.


Riding on the wave of media publicity, Zelensky won a landslide presidential election in 2019. Later, his political party, which he “coincidentally” named “Servant of the People,” won an overwhelming victory in a snap legislative election held shortly after his inauguration as president.

Since 2019, after being elected president through questionable methods, Zelensky has surreptitiously been working on a clandestine project to foment a crisis with Russia on a flimsy pretext. Not only did he scornfully rebuff the Russian proposal but he also let Ukraine’s security forces stage joint military exercises and naval drills alongside NATO forces in the Black Sea right under Russia’s nose. His reckless disregard for the suffering of Ukrainian masses and suicidally provoking Russia into an armed confrontation aside, he is merely a pawn in the grand scheme of things.

continues... https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-vo ... ky/5774491


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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:00 am

Volodymyr Zelensky was groomed by covert CIA operatives in Ukraine since his student life while he was studying law at the Kryvyi Rih National University.

Instead of pursuing a legal career, he chose acting as a profession at the behest of his influential patrons to gain nationwide publicity, particularly through comedy television series “Servant of the People” in which Zelensky “prophetically played” the role of the Ukrainian president.

In fact, his production company Kvartal 95, which produces films, cartoons and television shows, was generously funded by deep pockets of Western security agencies. Comically exposing corruption and sleazy dealings of Ukraine’s politician and oligarch, the series “Servant of the People” aired from 2015 to 2019 and struck a chord with Ukrainian masses.

Western security agencies not only lavishly funded his obscure media organization but also introduced him to a clandestine cabal of illustrious Hollywood producers and directors adept in psychological warfare and public relationing. The media success of “Servant of the People” is attributed as much to the efforts of the employees of Kvartal 95 as to the skill of international media organizations specializing in global opinion-making.


Any actual evidence for this?

Any names, dates, places .... anything other than the author's assertion its true?
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Harvey » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:55 pm

You're saying that's an unsafe and unwarranted assumption? Where are your sources? etc.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:29 pm

They just said that on the basis of nothing and expect me to believe it.

He may be CIA trained but it shouldn't be too hard to show that and given this website used to do this all the fucken time why aren't we still doing it? That article was happy to reference some things but couldn't even name one dodgy organisation Zelensky's production company was involved with.

You want me to provide a source that he wasn't connected to those groups - how? We know who the people who run dodgy CIA fronts are. How fucken hard is it to find a connection between him and then. WE can find these connections between heaps of Ukrainian politicians associated with Euromaiden or the Orange revolution. (Even tho Tymmochenko actually was prepared to work with Putin to get cheap gas to Ukraine and cut out state based companies owned by Ukrainian oligarchs paying kick backs to both Victor Y's on either side of Ukrainian politics. Despite being a leader of the Orange revolution, she was prepared to work with Putin in her nation's best interests. So maybe she wasn't a US stooge. She ended up in prioson immediately after that btw.)

How hard would it be for those authors to make a connection between the people who groomed Yat-whatever-the-fuck-his-name-was (who became president after Euromaiden) and Zelensky? Couldn't even be arsed doing that and yet they want to be taken seriously. And you don't even question it cos its criticising the people we think need criticising.

With that attitude you'll be an easy mark for any con that tells you what you want to hear.

The Ukrainian people are pawns in a game between two shitful empires who couldn't give a fuck about you, me or anyone who gets blown up in Ukraine, Iraq, Syria and anywhere else.

Neither side are good people.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Harvey » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:34 pm

Neither side are good people.


I don't understand what 'sides' you're referring to.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:38 am

Us and them.


Well Nato (ie US/West) and Russia actually.

So them and them.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby drstrangelove » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:11 am

Harvey » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:55 pm wrote:You're saying that's an unsafe and unwarranted assumption? Where are your sources? etc.

It is if you are trying to convince people Zelensky is a Western puppet, which would be the only practical use for the information. And it is difficult to convince someone of this. I come up against Western propaganda on a day to day basis in conversation with people I know. They think since Ukraine is a democracy, therefore Zelensky democratically elected, and that Ukraine has chosen to integrate with the West of their own volition. These are people with full-time jobs, families, literally no time to digest information on world events outside of maybe 20 minutes a day reading the Australian equivalent of the NYT or evening news. They don't even know about the coup in 2014. They think Russia just randomly invaded Crimea. I can change their mind in the moment about certain things they were unaware of, but I can't use anything that would require them to do any kind of research. Literally no time.
If there was actual evidence Zelensky was a CIA asset, I could just state "Zelensky is a CIA asset." and avoid a 20 minute conversation by showing them the reliable source. Then again, I could show some of these people the Zapruder film, and they'd shrug. They have no idea where Oswald supposedly fired the shot from. No frame reference. That's the issue, these people have no frame of reference for any alternative theory. No time. The best you can do is go "Actually three world trade towers collapsed on 9/11" and they'll just kind of go blank like the matrix is short circuiting, take a sip of wine, have some cheese, and move on to some other topic.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:21 am

How fucken hard would it be to show some evidence of this:

In fact, his production company Kvartal 95, which produces films, cartoons and television shows, was generously funded by deep pockets of Western security agencies.

How do they know?

Its just a random statement with no evidence to back it up.

He's an actor who became a politician. Why did he have to be groomed for that beforehand? Its not like actors aren't extremely vulnerable to a little bit of ego stroking. "Ok now you're president we need to let you in on this big secret about the future of Ukraine..."
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:52 am

Nauman Sadiq is an Islamabad-based geopolitical and national security analyst focused on geo-strategic affairs and hybrid warfare in the Af-Pak and Middle East regions. His domains of expertise include neocolonialism, military-industrial complex and petro-imperialism. He is a regular contributor of diligently researched investigative reports to Global Research.


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Re: Hollywood Scripting

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:04 am

@ProudSocialist
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Zelensky banned 11 opposition parties and every news channel except for one, but he hasn’t banned the Azov neo-nazi battalion. Tells you everything you need to know about Democrat’s new “hero.”

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:13 pm

Belligerent Savant » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:04 am wrote:
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Zelensky banned 11 opposition parties and every news channel except for one, but he hasn’t banned the Azov neo-nazi battalion. Tells you everything you need to know about Democrat’s new “hero.”

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