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talk about the monarch program and the tactics that are used to make the monarch look crazy when they start breaking their programming. I also cover technology that could be used on monarchs and MK ultra victims in order to mimic schizophrenia. I repeat myself a lot, I'm sorry. I have a difficult time finding the right words to explain things as a result of all the trauma I have been put through

Project Willow wrote:From the comments to his article Albarelli addresses the issue.

http://www.truthout.org/cries-from-past ... choes59738

Mon, 05/24/2010 - 13:33 — H.P. Albarelli Jr.

I researched the CIA's programs for over 17 years. As far as I could see and find, there is/was no Monarch project. Indeed, I was told by the fellow who first wrote about it that it was a fabricated project on his part and that he has regretted the creation for years. It is not necessary to make MKULTRA and Artichoke any worse than they were. They were absolutely horrible programs and the attempts to embellish them with made-up projects is not helpful or needed. In fact, it readily serves the Agency's disinformation objectives to scatter this fabricated disinfo dust over the real story. Ms. Van Bergen is correct: victim accounts are helpful and needed. These are forthcoming in additional articles that will be posted on Truthout. As expected, victims are quite afraid and apprehensive about coming forward. The victim identified as Sally Hartman in my book is the best evidenced account I have seen. The harm done to this woman by the CIA is hard to fathom. Perhaps we will post that section form the book somewhere on the net so that more people can see and read it. HPA/

RIer's who've paid attention to this topic can probably figure out that regretful source, but let us now put to rest finally the question as to whether it's a bonafide project name. Interestingly, it doesn't appear to be deliberate disinfo either. Can one retract a meme?

Project Monarch

Actually, if you listen to the radiation committee testimony, one of the vics quotes Gottlieb telling her she "Is ripe for the big A", Artichoke. So perhaps TBMC activity fell under that project name. Hopefully one day we shall find out for certain what label they used for their horrendous work on kids.

Grizzly wrote:Not to sound disrespectful, but your an athority? How? What if what you believe is the spreading of "dis-information?

Grizzly wrote:Why the accusatory tone?

Grizzly wrote: Why the accusatory tone?

Because you don't appear to listen? At all?

Grizzly, I didn't see any accusatory tone, they were both pretty straight forward & polite. This is a pretty sensitive topic for many here that have been through these experiences.

Grizzly wrote:Not to sound disrespectful, but your an athority? How? What if what you believe is the spreading of "dis-information?

What about the evidence for GMC? ...

For example, Lynn Schirmer and Carol Rutz, who have never met each other in person, have
published similar sketches depicting their memories of having been tortured in mind control
experiments as children.

Grizzly wrote:

Simulist wrote:Because you don't appear to listen? At all?

What?

Grizzly wrote:Why are my comments being deleted? Sorry, they weren't there must have been a delay... Sorry I brought this up. It's more energy that I care to engage in, consider this dropped. Geez, before I can finish a reply someone else jumps in, I don't have it in me, I'm pooped. I just found the vid interesting didn't mean to cause the "ffs's" and "come-on's" and "why aren't you listenings"... I will check out those links thanks.