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geogeo wrote:Speaking of the victims, has there been any further discussion or speculation regarding Jessica Ghawi/Jessica Redfield? http://twitter.com/jessicaredfield and http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/about/
Her blog only ever had two posts, one of which was on the Toronto mall shooting. She was active on Twitter. Both these accounts are still open, perhaps a little odd. She was Palestinian American, and a journalist. But I remember some discussion about her having seen a guy in a Batman costume in Toronto?
It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that she might have known something, found out something, overhead something, etc., enough so that she was singled out to be killed (she was shot twice; once in the head). She could even have used the sports blogger persona as cover for deeper investigative work; there are more troubling possibilities as well.
I know, I know, this is just speculation, but I think it bears consideration nonetheless. It could be that more than one desirable target was lured to the theater; who knows if that's even possible?? I do know that there appear to have been cases in the past where a mass shooting or an exploding plane are used to mask an assassination. I always had the vague feeling that this might have been the case with the Beltway shooters as well.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:“We refer to the operation as an Exercise of General Synthesis. A highly-placed personality has done detailed planning for it.” -- No Time to Think
Iamwhomiam wrote:Luther, Perhaps using the term "broad" was a bit insensitive, but Alchemy certainly did not blame her in any way for the events that transpired.
By the way, her dismissal from the Navy for suffering from a "Personality Disorder" was more likely the result of her telling the truth when asked; that she was a lesbian. She had attended the flick with her 'partner."
And her vulgar remarks about the fate of her assailant, I'm sure, were likely also uttered by several other survivors. Not an all that uncommon reaction, in my experience.
James Holmes' Psychiatrist Contacted University Police Weeks Before Movie-Theater Shooting: ABC Exclusive
ABC NewsBy MARK GREENBLATT, CAROL McKINLEY and MIKE GUDGELL | ABC News – 2 hrs 19 mins ago
The psychiatrist who treated suspected movie-theater shooter James Holmes made contact with a University of Colorado police officer to express concerns about her patient's behavior several weeks before Holmes' alleged rampage, sources told ABC News.
The sources did not know what the officer approached by Dr. Lynne Fenton did with the information she passed along. They said, however, that the officer was recently interviewed, with an attorney present, by the Aurora Police Department as a part of the ongoing investigation of the shooting.
Fenton would have had to have serious concerns to break confidentiality with her patient to reach out to the police officer or others, the sources said. Under Colorado law, a psychiatrist can legally breach a pledge of confidentiality with a patient if he or she becomes aware of a serious and imminent threat that their patient might cause harm to others. Psychiatrists can also breach confidentiality if a court has ordered them to do so.
"For any physician to break doctor-patient confidentiality there would have to be an extremely good reason," said Dr. Carol Bernstein, Dr. Carol Bernstein, a psychiatrist at NYU Langone Medical Center and past president of the American Psychiatric Association.
Bernstein has no specific knowledge of the Holmes case and spoke in general terms.
"Confidentiality is a key part of the doctor-patient relationship," she said. "It is central to everything we do."
ABC news and affiliate KMGH-TV in Denver first reported Wednesday that Fenton had contacted other members of the university's threat-assessment team about her concerns. The university-wide, threat-assessment team reportedly never met to discuss Holmes after he announced his intent to withdraw from the University nearly six weeks before the July 20 shooting that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
University of Colorado spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery declined to comment on what, if anything, the university police officer might have done with information provided by Fenton, citing a court-issued gag order preventing her from confirming or denying any information related to Fenton or the investigation.
In a written statement to ABC News, however, the university said campus police officers are "frequently involved" in meetings of the university's Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment (BETA) team.
The statement went on to say that police involvement with threat assessment "could include security matters, badge access, background checks, wellness checks, criminal investigations and referrals and outreach to other law enforcement agencies."
An attorney for Fenton declined to comment.
http://news.yahoo.com/james-holmes-psyc ... ories.html
justdrew
I read extensively at her blog and I came away with the distinct impression that her 'partner' was male and had a male name. Not that it's very important, and of course I could be wrong.
I don't think there's anything vulgar about suggesting her assailant should if sentenced to death die in a fashion commensurate to his crime.
Sometimes I am a collector of data, and only a collector, and am likely to be gross and miserly, piling up notes, pleased with merely numerically adding to my stores. Other times I have joys, when unexpectedly coming upon an outrageous story that may not be altogether a lie, or upon a macabre little thing that may make some reviewer of my more or less good works mad. But always there is present a feeling of unexplained relations of events that I note, and it is this far-away, haunting, or often taunting, awareness, or suspicion, that keeps me piling on. ~ Charles Fort, Wild Talents (1932).
Recently, in comments at Twilight Language, a person using the name Daurade, sent this along:
Mr. Coleman, I have read enough of your posts to believe the Copycat Effect is totally plausible, very difficult to refute. But I'm not sure why you go into coincidences so much. Name symbolism, ladies in red showing up at the Olympics etc.
I do this kind of thing as a poetic exercise. [A few writers] believe these are indications that a "cryptocracy" is staging events for their own nefarious agenda. I suppose I could agree that these synchronicities are in the air and thus play into the copycat effect.
To be honest, I'm not sure what your getting at when you talk about the meaning of names and show things such as "Aurora" on a building in a trailer. Are you suggesting a conspiracy or what exactly? Not being facetious or snarky, just a bit befuddled.
I'm befuddled too. I am also mystified and unable to deliver any clear answers to most universal questions. That's fine. I'm comfortable with the excluded muddled middle, and with side treks into what appears to be experiments in conclusions. I'm a Fortean. To be open to Fortean thinking means to allow myself a more holistic and interconnected view of the world. Charles Fort once wrote of a world sense I share, "My liveliest interest is not so much in things, as in relations of things. I have spent much time thinking about the alleged pseudo-relations that are called coincidences. What if some of them should not be coincidence?"
"The fate of all explanation is to close one door
only to have another fly wide open." ~ Charles Fort
Judge accused of creating ‘unusual shroud of secrecy’ in movie theater shooting caseBy Jason Sickles, Yahoo!
Staff Writer
By Jason Sickles, Yahoo! | The Lookout – 3 hrs ago
http://www.scribd.com/doc/102441014/Jam ... ing-Report
The former grad student charged in last month's deadly shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater gave his religion as "agnostic" and his occupation as "laborer" when he was booked into jail, according to a document released to Yahoo News this week.
The Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office booking report provides few other details about James Eagan Holmes or his motive for allegedly opening fire during a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises." Twelve people were killed and 58 wounded.
The 24-year-old suspected gunman gave jailers his mother's name as an emergency contact.
The redacted two-page report was obtained by Yahoo News under a Colorado public records request. A request for additional records was denied.
"In weighing the public interests versus the private interests, the public interest would not be served by disclosing additional records," Arapahoe County Sheriff J. Grayson Robinson wrote in a response to Yahoo News.
"Mr. Holmes could potentially be significantly impacted by the release of his records and any corresponding publicity," he continued.
Robinson said part of his decision was based on a pretrial gag order issued by Chief District Judge William Sylvester.
The judge's order to seal all records related to Holmes' arrest will be debated in court Thursday. Several media organizations have asked Sylvester to scale back his order barring the release of search warrants, inventories of evidence and other records publicly available in criminal cThe gag order has prohibited the University of Colorado from releasing public records related to the suspect's time there as a Ph.D. neuroscience student. The Aurora Police Department has also stopped answering routine questions about the shooting.
An editorial by the Denver Post says Sylvester's order has "imposed an unusual shroud of secrecy on the case" and goes beyond protecting the defendant's right to a fair trial.
"Barriers against secrecy are important in part because of the heightened public interest and the widespread desire for justice," the paper wrote.
Releasing basic information could help the community better understand how the tragedy took place, the editorial stated.
[RELATED: How the media should cover mass shootings, and why it can't]
http://news.yahoo.com/y--big-story--how ... can-t.html
"People often follow such stories because they're responsible citizens, not because they are voyeurs out for cheap thrills," the Post wrote.
Court officials said Holmes is expected to attend Thursday's hearing, according to the Associated Press.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/jud ... 39357.html
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