Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[elfismiles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8GxrKJDSL8

Tracy cites Paul Thompson's 911 Timeline as inspirational...

[JackRiddler]

So after the radio turned on I stayed in bed through Democracy Now! (Taibbi and Bill Black instead of breakfast in bed) but then came "Guns and Butter" with none other than Tracy. That roused me. It was every inch as foolish as we've already seen in this thread.

With that, I can no longer help but see Tracy and the zero-evidence Sandy Hook constructs as fallout from the phenomenon that more than any other destroyed 9/11 truth: the attack on the victims, relatives and survivors, as well as on activists, researchers and evidence. It encompassed many elements (from the Pentagon hole obsession to the pod to fake victim lists and cell calls to preemptive cries of "gatekeeper" and "controlled opposition") but culminated in the "no planes at the Towers" operation -- and an operation it almost certainly was. Now the style has attached itself to every subsequent traumatic event. Every time real murder is turned into some version of video fakery, it reinforces a strand of misinfo/disinfo that goes back to 9/11. "Guns and Butter" sometimes features great stuff, but more often gives a platform to this post-reality trend.

[compared2what?]

^^I agree that it's effectively the same.

Just a note for the record, on the what-is-the-point tip:

c2w?, that was very persuasive! If you don't want a straightforward dialogue about a particular issue, any distraction, no matter how crazy, is serviceable. And crazy has a great track record for attracting attention and thus creating distraction.

If that's what it is, it would be a little more specifically goal-oriented than that. I mean, it's a narrative that disappears the victims and valorizes/absolves the shooter. And inasmuch as that fosters this type of a conclusion...

I normally stay as far as I can from talk of these ‘tragedies’ because I am forced to compare them with daily tragedies times one thousand that are inflicted all round the world.

...it creates kind of an ideal world for whatever forces have an investment in seeing that the carnage in question continues unchecked. And to a lesser extent, to forces that have an investment in continued carnage generally, I guess. Because once you get people habituated to dismissing it on those or similar grounds, you can do it pretty much infinitely with whatever outrage/"outrage" you wish, just by re-jiggering its narrative to fit what you now know to be their requirements for not caring about it. So as long as they aren't all exclusively dedicated to being pre-outraged about the same thing, you'd be set.

[elfismiles]

So after the radio turned on I stayed in bed through Democracy Now! (Taibbi and Bill Black instead of breakfast in bed) but then came "Guns and Butter" with none other than Tracy. That roused me. It was every inch as foolish as we've already seen in this thread.

With that, I can no longer help but see Tracy and the zero-evidence Sandy Hook constructs as fallout from the phenomenon that more than any other destroyed 9/11 truth: the attack on the victims, relatives and survivors, as well as on activists, researchers and evidence. It encompassed many elements (from the Pentagon hole obsession to the pod to fake victim lists and cell calls to preemptive cries of "gatekeeper" and "controlled opposition") but culminated in the "no planes at the Towers" operation -- and an operation it almost certainly was. Now the style has attached itself to every subsequent traumatic event. Every time real murder is turned into some version of video fakery, it reinforces a strand of misinfo/disinfo that goes back to 9/11. "Guns and Butter" sometimes features great stuff, but more often gives a platform to this post-reality trend.

I agree with you Jack.

And yet we live in an age of viral video fakery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lkcsQZ-_tc

See also...

The Dreadlock Recollections (Kerry Thornley)
viewtopic.php?p=119374#p119374

[JackRiddler]

Oh, without a doubt. That's why the tactic of calling every thing that happens a video fake works.

[barracuda]

Did Adam Lanza Have Lyme Disease?
by JESSICA BERNSTEIN
As the nation has been questioning how Adam Lanza could have committed such an unfathomable act, mental health issues have been at the forefront of the discussion. However, knowing that Newtown is located in a highly Lyme-endemic area, many in the Lyme community recognize that neurological lyme disease could be part of the answer to what led to the Connecticut shooting.

Although most people or animals with Lyme or other tick-borne diseases are not violent, a small percentage have demonstrated violent behavior. Many may remember the chimpanzee named Travis who attacked the woman and tore off her face. That chimpanzee had Lyme disease and lived in Connecticut.

Psychiatrist Robert Bransfield, M.D. estimates that aggressive behavior has been a significant issue for approximately 100 to 200 patients with Lyme disease that he has evaluated or treated. He also emphasizes that most patients with Lyme or other tick-borne diseases, “are not violent and should not be stigmatized….Clearly violence is a very complex issue. Many different factors have contributory or deterrent effects.”

Florida physician Rick Sponaugle, M.D., an expert in brain disorders featured on many national news shows, has treated over 2,000 patients who were previously misdiagnosed by psychiatrists as having bipolar disorder due to rage issues when the majority of them had Lyme disease. Sponaugle says, “I diagnose Lyme disease in 95 percent of my patients with Adam [Lanza’s] personality profile.”

As a critical health issue, the state of Connecticut knows a lot about lyme disease because it has one of the highest rates in the nation and is home to the city after which the illness is named. Senator Blumenthal chaired a hearing in August, 2012 exploring next steps that the federal government must take to combat the disease.

Newtown is well aware of the problem too. In a plea for help with Lyme disease research found on the Newtown government website, Director of Health Donna Culbert asserts, “It’s no secret that tick-borne diseases are a top public health concern in Newtown. As Newtown’s Health Director, it’s heart wrenching to hear of entire families being impacted, from doing schoolwork to be able to perform at work, effects range from disruptive to devastating to debilitating…all from contracting a tick-borne disease.”

It may seem surprising then that Lyme disease has not been raised by Connecticut public officials as a possible contributing factor to the Lanza case. Particularly since many medical professionals and Lyme patients have been contacting them urging that Lanza be tested. Lyme patient KT Pierce sent in an on-line petition with 227 signatures to the mayor of Newtown just before the autopsy was conducted.

Despite Blumethal’s advocacy for Lyme patients, there is a vested interest by many others in keeping this costly illness out of the national spotlight. Increasing numbers of Lyme patients are seeking long-term treatment while HMOs are battling to keep coverage at a minimum.

Lyme disease has reached epidemic proportions in areas throughout the United States with rates more than doubling since 1991. There are approximately 20,000 new cases of Lyme disease reported each year in the United States. However, the CDC, estimates that the actual number of new cases is closer to 10 times that. Compare that number – 200,000 – to an estimated 50,000 new HIV cases each year, and it becomes clear why some refer to Lyme as the hidden epidemic.

The illness afflicts people of all ages and has devastating effects on individuals, families, and their livelihoods. Patients suffer from a range of debilitating symptoms such as profound weakness and fatigue, memory loss, paralysis, excruciating headaches, numbness, burning and tingling sensations, extreme light and sound sensitivity, chronic pain, cardiac issues, anxiety, and depression. California Lyme specialist Deborah Metzger, M.D. estimates that 1 out of every 4 Lyme patients in her practice is unable to work and 15 to 20% are homebound due to the condition.

[Sounder]

C2w?, that was such an unfair characterization of my thoughts.

Are you just trying to bait me?

sad

[compared2what?]

C2w?, that was such an unfair characterization of my thoughts.

Are you just trying to bait me?

sad

No, I'm not. I wasn't even really trying to characterize you in negative terms. I thought what you said was understandable. And I certainly didn't think it was disreputable, or anything like that. I just thought that it was potentially problematic in that the dismissal of the loss of human life as something unworthy of serious attention can be leveraged by people with an interest of such things in the way that I described.

And since you either know that already or can't be hurt by knowing it if you don't, it seems to me like it's kind of the opposite of hostile to point it out. Axiomatically. And anyway, I have nothing but fond feeling for you. Not that it's really material. I mean, if your children got shot, I wouldn't have any trouble regarding it as a devastating tragedy either way, god forbid the possibility. It just happens to be the case.

[Nordic]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... oting.html

Police visiting LAUSD schools in wake of Connecticut shooting
January 7, 2013 | 8:18 am

Elementary and middle school campuses across Los Angeles are reopening Monday after winter break with increased security in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Connecticut.

The Los Angeles Police Department, as well as the L.A. County Sheriff's department and other law enforcement agencies planned to have officers visit the Los Angeles Unified School District's more than 500 public elementary and middle schools on a daily basis.

Elementary and middle schools had not been on LAPD's daily schedule before. Daily patrols will continue at district high schools.

The increased security follows last month's shooting at the Newtown, Conn., elementary school, where a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.

"We really appreciate the cooperation and the partnership with LAPD," said LAUSD Supt. John Deasy.

Deasy, along with school board President Monica Garcia and Los Angeles School Police Chief Steve Zipperman, visited elementary schools Monday morning before students arrived.

"A barrier has been broken in our culture," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said last month. "It's our job ... all of our jobs, to make sure that we resurrect that barrier and make our children safe."

Seems innocuous enough, right? A smiling cop, children going to school. How quaint!

But here's how it went down at my son's school. They were all hanging out, minding their own business, and somebody noticed two police officers walking through the grounds. High drama, right? Why would the cops be there? Must be some bad guys at the school! OMG!

The cops then came to the classroom. And told the kids how they were there to keep them safe.

Really? Do the cops come to our houses unannounced, knock on our doors and say "good morning, ma'am. I was just curious how safe you were feeling today?"

No, they do not.

Anyway, kids freaked out, cops trying to reassure them. Kids start thinking it's cool, asking questions about their guns, do they ever shoot people, etc.

Then one girl asks if they are here because of what happened in Connecticut?

Well, a great many of the kids in my son's class, MY SON INCLUDED, had not yet been told about what happened in Connecticut. We didn't really think it would be in their best interest to tell them about this. Yes, we knew the risks involved, that they might find out about it anyway, somehow ....

But now the cops are telling the kids that yes, indeedy, they are here because of what happened in Connecticut.

My son's mind is blown. He's asking what happened in Connecticut and now he's being told.

Great.

I didn't know anything about this, and neither did the other parents in my son's shoes, until we were putting our kids to bed that night. As the kids lay in bed, contemplating their day, they all suddenly wanted to talk about this.

I think my wife is the most upset of any of them. I'm probably 2nd. Unless there are others who haven't spoken up yet.

And now the LAPD is thinking it's a damn good idea to have these cops there on some kind of a permanent basis.

One more civil liberty slowly chipped away.

My son's school, BTW, is a charter school within the LAUSD. There was no advance warning, and now we've found out that the cops visited the schools who ASKED to be visited. And the head of our school is now claiming she knew nothing about it. Uh .... yeah, lady, right.

Anyway, this might not be terribly interesting to most, but I thought it was rather telling as to what we can expect more of.

And I have to say I'm pretty appalled at the attitude of many of the parents, who have said in the Yahoogroup of my son's class that it's just GREAT that the cops are there, that the children can learn to "look up to authority figures" and that sort of crap.

[divideandconquer]

It is interesting. I want to know what's going on. And it is appalling. I'm so glad I don't have any young kids because knowing me, I'd tell them what I think is the truth.

I think they're conditioning these kids, getting them ready for a full-on police state so they won't question it when storm-troopers are marching down the hall, down their street, in the mall...everywhere. Hopefully, these smiling Nazis will keep their smiles, but I doubt it.

[Nordic]

I think they're conditioning these kids, getting them ready for a full-on police state so they won't question it when storm-troopers are marching down the hall, down their street, in the mall...everywhere. Hopefully, these smiling Nazis will keep their smiles, but I doubt it.

Yeah, me, too. And my wife is ready to pull the kid out of school and start home-schooling him.

[82_28]

Brazil is here. . .

[8bitagent]

Ugh, my friend called me up, all upset. Saying "omg, did you know Sandy Hook was a hoax? I just saw this youtube video that explained it all"

I was just shaking my head. Im all for questioning events, but my god.

[8bitagent]

Lupercal, thought ya might wanna see this:

[compared2what?]

Lupercal, thought ya might wanna see this:

Um...I hope this goes without saying. And I wish it did, because it sounds incredibly presumptuous to me. But in the event that anybody who disagrees with me feels constrained by my having said I thought this stuff was suspect, please don't. I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it was worth considering. But that's really all I'd want anybody to do. And even that's not, like, mandatory, obviously. If it's incompatible with letting your lovelights shine, disregard it.

...

Okay. I feel like an idiot. But there's almost nothng worse than being (or at least feeling) silenced. So I guess I'll err on the side of idiocy.

Carry on as if I hadn't said anything. Literally, if that's how it struck you. It's just my opinion.

ON EDIT: Oh my god. That just looks so self-regarding, I kind of want to delete it out of pure shame. I meant it, though. I very much don't want to be a bully. But, you know. I therefore never intend to be, and yet.

So even though it seems likelier to me that the story's moment has just passed for the present, I guess I'll leave it.

Ugh. Hate myself. Thanks. Carry on.