Could somebody please explain Benghazi to me?!

[Wombaticus Rex]

NYT report was eloquent crap, an update of State Dept talking points, gleefully unburdened by context & history.

[seemslikeadream]

I didn't know you fancied the Tea Party/FauxNews point of view...is that you Chairman Issa?

[Wombaticus Rex]

I didn't know you fancied the Tea Party/FauxNews point of view...is that you Chairman Issa?

This is precisely why the binary trap is so effective ... Also precisely why the NYT piece was at such pains to frame itself as a "murky" third way, despite being a lengthy apologia for our Al-Q sponsorships in Syria and Afrique.

As for Issa, I can only hope for a criminal record as distinguished as his.

[Belligerent Savant]

.

Re: binary trap, among other pap:

http://gawker.com/a-comprehensive-new-y ... 1490954162

A comprehensive New York Times investigation into the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi found no evidence of involvement by al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups; in fact, according to the report, the attack was largely fueled by anger at the American-made video "The Innocence of Muslims."

COMMENTS:

StarMemberULacey Donohue391L
All I see is a liberal leaning news paper trying to protect a liberal/socialist administration. Yesterday 5:27pm


Floyd PepperUStarMember1661L
That's incredible you were able to read the article in only two minutes!

Please, share with us your speed-reading secrets! Yesterday 5:31pm


LithniaUStarMember571L
Yesterday 5:33pm


StarMemberUFloyd Pepper121L
I hope you do know that all this site does is REPOST stuff from actual news sites except on rare occasions like Rob Ford crack video. So one could argue that there is a high possibility that I already read this article before.

One could argue that, don't you think? Yesterday 5:35pm


LongSnakeUStarMember211L
What makes Obama a socialist? Yesterday 5:37pm


Shut Up!UFloyd Pepper151L
But reading is so hard....Just ask Sarah Palin.... Yesterday 5:37pm


Floyd PepperUStarMember91L
So you've read it then? Yesterday 5:38pm


whendovescryUStarMember671L
If this is a socialist administration it's the least successful in history of socialism. Taxes are down for your beloved plutocrats, military spending remains at an all-time high, and more than million people just had their unemployment cut. But I trust you won't let any of these pesky facts into your Fox news-addled pea-sized brain. Black politician =Muslim loving Communist Yesterday 5:40pm


tdhurstUStarMember41L
So you're saying the NYT is lying? Yesterday 5:41pm


StarMemberULongSnake81L
1. Universal health care. let the free market do drive competition and let government stay out of my health and wallet.

2. Loves to tax the hard working Americans.

3. hates guns and wants to take our guns away. Eventually using the military to seize power from the people.

4. spies on honest Americans.

5. he shook Raul castro's hand.

6. Hates freedom.

7. Wants to increase funding for "urban" people.

8. Death panels. Yesterday 5:42pm


LongSnakeUwhendovescry151L
I don't think he knows what the word means. Yesterday 5:42pm


Jerry-NetherlandUStarMember121L
If that's all you see in that report, please consider seeking professional help. Yesterday 5:42pm


VeryWellULongSnake31L
That's how you parry. Yesterday 5:43pm


Empress FoofypantsUStarMember11L
One could, but it sounds like a terribly boring thing to do. Yesterday 5:43pm


StarMemberUFloyd Pepper21L
Obviously, I mean it would be wrong and that never happens on gawker to comment without reading the article. Yesterday 5:44pm


StarMemberUtdhurst31L
Just saying that the NYT has an agenda, a liberal agenda. Yesterday 5:45pm


ChardonnayGuyUStarMember281L
Five stars for the satire. Yesterday 5:46pm


GemmabetaUStarMember311L
Good trolling, I was fooled until I got to item 5. Yesterday 5:47pm


LithniaUStarMember71L
Awww, did I hurt your feelings with my wittle picture? Y u stepping on my God given rights, bruh?

Yesterday 5:47pm


BirdDroppingsUStarMember251L
1. NASCAR

2. Flag

3. Freedom

4. Love it or Leave it Pussy Libtards Yesterday 5:48pm


coffeebeanqueenUFloyd Pepper111L
Notice how he didn't reply... I have the article bookmarked to read later... It just came out a few hours ago and is QUITE lengthy... $20 says he hasn't read it... Especially since he didn't address your question. Yesterday 5:48pm


BirdDroppingsUStarMember261L
5. Truck Nutz

6. Mountain Dew

7. Boobs

8. Flag again, you low information libtards! Yesterday 5:50pm


VeryWellUJerry-Netherland31L
Well, newsprint is black and white...don't you know things are simple? Yesterday 5:50pm


LongSnakeUStarMember161L
Is this a serious list or some type of joke that's going over my head? Because I was laughing hysterically by the end of your first point. I'm confused, Obama hasn't taken anyones guns away.

I'm assuming you like the old system of healthcare where you could get kicked out or denied for any reason? We've tried your way and it sucks, its a terrible no good healthcare system.

Death panels??? That's a listed reason for reals as to why you think he's a socialist?

Plus Barry loves freedom, he's the president of freedom.

"Urban" means black?

So much with this list, either I'm being trolled by a master progressive or you truly honestly believe this gunk.

Who cares who he has shaken hands with? GW Bush made out with every Saudi Prince under the sun and that doesn't bother you? Yesterday 5:50pm


ChongsboyUStarMember21L
You should actually try to understand muslim people and their hatred of Americans! If you actually put your feet in their shoes, you'd realize how pissed off they are and why, and possibly have compassion for their plight. Just like how Americans are upset over 9/11... The hatred is not one sided... Yesterday 5:50pm


PipeSmokingGalUStarMember121L
What part of Appalachia is urban? Yesterday 5:51pm


StarMemberULithnia11L
Stop trying to project, it makes you seem sad. Yesterday 5:51pm


ArdenUStarMember1L
Now now, don't be jealous. We didn't get investigations on all of the embassies attacked under Bush's Administration, you can give Obama at least ONE... Yesterday 5:52pm


whendovescryUStarMember11L
I would bet heavily against it. I doubt your even capable of reading the NY times. Yesterday 5:54pm


StarMemberUPipeSmokingGal11L
The part where you rearrange the word "appalachia", then take out 3 a(s),p(s), l, i, c, h and add a U, r b n. Yesterday 5:54pm


zombieeileenloveUStarMember131L
And he wants ALL the white women.

All of them. Yesterday 5:54pm


missmarthaUStarMember91L
You put "death panels" last. A real American would have put "death panels" higher up the list. Yesterday 5:55pm


StarMemberUArden11L
Because it never happened under bush, if it did the liberal media would have reported it. I am sure Rachel Maddow would have made it the biggest thing ever.

Also if it did happen, it was probably during war so that doesn't count and Obama try to lie to protect his muslim brothers. Finally, I want to give a shout out to Ronald Reagan he was a great man. Yesterday 5:56pm


StarMemberUmissmartha11L
obviously you are assuming they are in order of significance. Yesterday 5:58pm


consciousnessUStarMember11L
Liar. Yesterday 5:59pm


slugboy70UStarMember41L
One could argue that, don't you think?

But I notice that you are not arguing that....

"One can argue..."- "There is a high possibility..." these are called "weasel words"- they are meant to lead the reader to specific conclusions while keeping plausible deniability for the writer that's drawing them.

If you didn't read the article just say you didn't read the article- spouting weasly drivel just makes you look like an asshole who is making comments on an article he didn't read... Yesterday 5:59pm


Jerry-NetherlandUVeryWell21L
....only to the simple minded. Yesterday 6:00pm


StarMemberUChongsboy21L
They hate us because of our freedom. Yesterday 6:00pm


whendovescryUStarMember91L
You got me. Nice trolling. Yesterday 6:00pm


PsychoceramicsUStarMember151L
Yesterday 6:00pm


Floyd PepperUStarMember291L
Yesterday 6:02pm


StarMemberUslugboy7041L
Are you implying I am trying to avoid saying whether or not I actually read the article, because if you are I am offended as a red blooded American. Yesterday 6:04pm


AllBalls42ULongSnake151L
I think he has to be joking. That list can't be the thoughts of a grown up. Yesterday 6:04pm


lwleander
Well, when it comes to protecting administrations that are caught lying and leading us into situations that ends up costing hundreds of thousands of lives, yeah. So, in theory, they'd at least have practice doing that.

ArdenUStarMember101L
"During the War"

Oh, so the War On Terror is over then? Oh man, someone needs to tell the government that they won, and now it's time to give us all our freedoms back like they promised. That giant "Mission Accomplished" banner was serious then.

"It never happened under Bush"

Tell that to the embassies in Kolkata, Karachi, Islamabad, Tashkent, Saudi Arabia, Karachi (again), Syria, Yemen, Istanbul and Yemen (once more!) . They'd like to disagree with you. Yesterday 6:06pm


LongSnakeUAllBalls4261L
Im mostly sure he is but I've seen enough people on here lately that would share those views that I don't even know any more. Yesterday 6:07pm


AllBalls42UStarMember91L
Your comments on this thread are incredible. really... i know you aren't for real here, but you walk the line between legitimate and retarded so well. Yesterday 6:07pm


Floyd PepperUStarMember41L
I'm beginning to take a liking to you, Starmember. Yesterday 6:08pm


baddoggyUStarMember31L
That some pretty good trolling right there! Yesterday 6:11pm


AllBalls42ULongSnake51L
agreed. he makes one decent, semi-legitimate point, with nine horrible, totally foolish points, provides just enough to keep us confused. the nuance, really fine troll work. or i mean, he could just be on a bunch of pills. Yesterday 6:12pm


Commenter no. 33
Excellent post. I have just one question, though. Do you think Obama is a genuine socialist, or is he merely pretending to be one in order to bring about the demise of our country for a nefarious reason?

StarMemberUStarMember11L
And it couldn't have been more obvious. Yesterday 6:16pm


Jason's RobotUChongsboy21L
I'm not sure what your comment is pointed at or responding to - But by 'muslim' do you mean Middle-Eastern people?

Because the Christians in Pakistan probably hate us just as much as the Muslims there do - And, for a random example, German Muslims probably don't hate us any more or less than any other German.

And American-Muslims certainly don't hate Americans.

Speaking personally, I don't have animosity towards Muslims because a cult-like offshoot of religious extremists attacked us on 9/11. But because of our foreign policy and military actions, I can understand why people have animosity towards us. Yesterday 6:16pm


EliazerUStarMember51L
Terrible troll still got so many people. Gawker I am disappoint Yesterday 6:16pm


EliazerUStarMember1L
Terrible troll still got so many people. Gawker I am disappoint Yesterday 6:16pm


StarMemberUbaddoggy71L
Thanks it was too easy. The list was design to be as obvious as possible without spelling out my intent. Yesterday 6:17pm


kitkat20UStarMember21L
Lol Obamacare is not universal healthcare nor is it even close to it. Yesterday 6:17pm


Yukon KizmiazULongSnake51L
I think we're being trolled. Yesterday 6:20pm


iusedtobesomeone
One could argue that your original statement makes you seem to be decidedly judgmental, as well.

onebadclamUStarMember11L
And here you go.

Also, the domestic surveillance program currently in the news was started under the previous administration. Yesterday 6:23pm


MulderLovesMe
One could argue that but it wouldn't be true. You know it and I know it. You didn't read this. You just offered a knee-jerk response because that's all you have to offer.

wascallywabbit
Obama signed NDAA again.

Stephen Nix
You could not have read this article before because it just came out and it will appear in Sunday's NY Times. It's about six pages long. You know, it's the kind of article that stems from months of investigative journalism. Oh, and by the way, investigative journalism is not the same thing as "liberal leaning news."

madamecouscousplus1UStarMember61L
The "Shout Out to Ronald Reagan" made me literally spit my tea on the laptop. That was A+ material. Yesterday 6:34pm


HoneyPotSF
Death Panels? Seriously?

sui_generisUStarMember61L
troll smarter, not harder. Yesterday 6:39pm


DanCopelandUStarMember31L
Considering you think Obama's a socialist, your actual ability to read is in question. Yesterday 6:42pm


RichyJ123
Funniest thing i have read in a while, Not sure if this serious or trolling though.....

steviefuckinjanowski
You don't really understand what "socialism" is, do you?

steviefuckinjanowski
1. Boring

slugboy70UStarMember11L
I couldn't care less if you read it or not- I was just saying that being so evasive made it sound like you didn't Yesterday 6:55pm


StarMemberUsui_generis31L
If one's intent was simply to troll, it doesn't matter how complex or simple it is. all that matter is if emotions were evoke. Trolling 101. Yesterday 6:57pm


Monica BerserkUStarMember21L
Ban this troll and his IP address too. Yesterday 6:58pm


StarMemberUslugboy7021L
If you couldn't care less why bother making a comment. I mean when I don't care about something, I don't comment about it. Yesterday 6:58pm


slugboy70UStarMember11L
You sounded like an asshole and I thought you should know... I was being polite. Yesterday 6:59pm


StarMemberUMonica Berserk31L
Trust me slick, I am not getting banned for this. In a way, in this instance I am the type of person gawker needs, but not the one gawker deserves.

In any case if you have been here long enough, you would know my comment was pretty weak compared to the real thing. Yesterday 7:00pm


StarMemberUslugboy7031L
Yesterday 7:02pm


darthmaul
The "free market" hasn't been so good with health care in this country. In fact the "invisible hand of the market" has been throttling the average Joe when it comes to health care.

slugboy70UStarMember41L
I try to help someone make clear and logical arguments and this is the thanks I get.

I tell you- pearls before swine... pearls before swine.

P.S- I could say that it's only now that I realize that you sound like an asshole because you are an asshole but I knew it all along. You just vibe ignorant.... Yesterday 7:05pm


clydesarahUPipeSmokingGal1L
the part of the trail in Buenos Aries Yesterday 7:06pm


helmutnewtonUStarMember21L
ohhh, so you're dumb. got it. Yesterday 7:12pm


StarMemberUslugboy701L
Notice how Mr. krabs play the violin so elegantly. Yesterday 7:13pm


bajmahal51UBirdDroppings11L
Actually, I think Boobs is something that both the left and the right might agree upon. Yesterday 7:13pm


PorxaderpUslugboy7011L
Your mistake was trying to help a troll. The fact that you didn't notice he was a troll after his special list is concerning. Yesterday 7:14pm


PipeSmokingGalUclydesarah21L
Gov. Sanford, is that you? Yesterday 7:15pm


GregorMendelUStarMember1L
Boy, I'm with you on those death panels. No WAY should doctors be paid to help out patients with Advance Directives and pre-need consent. That's just...Unamerican. Yesterday 7:17pm


MisterHippityUStarMember21L
a liberal/socialist administration
You keep using that word, "socialist" ...


Yesterday 7:21pm

justbecause
In fairness, Obama has had sloppy seconds with most of the Princes.

slugboy70UStarMember1L
"Elegantly"- that's a pretty big word, good for you. Yesterday 7:24pm


slugboy70UPorxaderp1L
Oh, I knew exactly what he was from the start- I felt like being a jerk to an asshole- not my best self, to be sure, but it's a little fun. Yesterday 7:27pm


Samuel M.
You should have stopped with the comment before you posted your 8 reasons of why you should be on meds.

ItsARampageLanaUStarMember21L
If you think the Obama administration is "liberal/socialist" there is very little chance that you've ever read anything that wasn't a bumper sticker. Yesterday 7:30pm


ItsARampageLanaUStarMember11L
7. Wants to increase funding for "urban" people.

THERE IT FUCKIN' IS. Yesterday 7:30pm


DrunkBassGuitarUStarMember31L
I can't believe people are actually taking you seriously lol Yesterday 7:32pm


Jecht342UStarMember1L
Wow. Tell me you are actually a liberal trying to make a point because this is the dumbest damn list I've ever seen. The "death panels" were a myth, for one thing. Another thing is, half the stuff on your panel isn't true, and most of it doesn't actually have anything to do with socialism. Yesterday 7:36pm


StarMemberUJecht3421L
And they say a sucker isn't born every day. Yesterday 7:39pm


StarMemberUItsARampageLana21L
Very disappointed, at some of you folks, but I am assuming you only read the first post, the hook. Yesterday 7:40pm


StarMemberUslugboy701L
It's O.K maybe next time. Yesterday 7:42pm


StarMemberUDrunkBassGuitar21L
I mean I couldn't have made it more obvious after my initial hook. The list was so absurd that the most logical thing was to assume the worst. Yesterday 7:44pm


GDSmithUStarMember11L
You're too fucking stupid and ill-informed to be an effective troll, jackwad. You're just a know-nothing loudmouth being driven into the ground by facthammers.

N-Joy! Yesterday 7:45pm


thuggyBearUStarMember1L
1. Universal health care. let the free market do drive competition and let government stay out of my health and wallet.

Passed 90s Republican healthcare plan, previousdly passed by Mitt Romney when he was governor of MA. While not perfect, it still brought better care at low prices. Is entirely market based.

Also, you may have noticed doing it your way didn;t work. That's why it needed to be fixed.

2. Loves to tax the hard working Americans.

In reality, has not raised taxes. Even extended Bush's temporary tax cuts.

3. hates guns and wants to take our guns away. Eventually using the military to seize power from the people.

Has passed exactly zero legislation regulating gun ownership- even those that 80% of Americans favor. Only legislation that has pass regarding gun rights had been to expand places where gun nuts can bring their guns- places like national parks.

4. spies on honest Americans.

This is true. But, I'm imagining you don't care much when Bush does it.

5. he shook Raul castro's hand.

Do you think he got cooties? What are you, five?

6. Hates freedom.

Have I been fooled by satire here?

7. Wants to increase funding for "urban" people.

I assume you mean "niggers", don't you?

8. Death panels.

These still don't exist. Yesterday 7:46pm


StarMemberUGDSmith11L
Honestly, your whole comment says more about you than me. Yesterday 7:46pm


Yukon KizmiazUStarMember41L
I've been chuckling at the way some of these people have gotten their panties in a twist. I think you were a little too successful.

Do what Maury Compson does. Just walk away. Watch this thread grow to hundreds of responses. Exhibit A. Yesterday 7:58pm


Bickle3UStarMember1L
What liberal socialist administration?

The fact that Obama has consistently caved, set up a national healthcare system that does nothing but bebefit private enterprise, not arrested and seized Wall Street and banned the stock market, not arrested most of the Bush administration and shipped them off the The Hague , is a realmgoodmstart for how unliberal he is. I would have been flogging them in the a national mall by the end of. My second week and started on my interrogation of the Koch brothers and Adelson and arbiter Ailes by then. Yesterday 7:59pm


bajmahal51UStarMember1L
Is that why you troll? Seriously Starmember, just to provoke any sort of emotional response? I mean there was only one or two responses here that showed any genuine annoyance, let alone anger. And you're not even wasting anyone's time by hijacking the conversation because the kinja system is setup so that multiple threads co-exist for every article, so everyone who has responded to you did so of they're own volition — you haven't tricked anyone really (straight-forwardly telling a lie at the start and being called on it almost immediately isn't much of a trick). And Gawker is all about the conversations, so saying something provocative to start the conversation is pretty much expected and not, in and of itself, considered trolling.

Of course, maybe you're only saying now that this has all been a troll because you're trying to pretend that your initial comments were that ignorant on purpose. In which case — nice save! Yesterday 8:00pm


SteakasaurusRexUGemmabeta11L
Yeah he or she had me going. I'm impressed. Yesterday 8:02pm


PuckUStarMember11L
Dude, worst trolling ever. The only people who actually think what you just said aren't literate enough to type it out. Try harder. Yesterday 8:02pm


em_pdUStarMember1L
Tinfoil helmet time. Yesterday 8:04pm


TeenaBurner
But... I thought this conclusion actually supported one of the original conservative theories of the attack - that this was a bunch of amateur zealots that Obama would rather appease with platitudes than protect his own fellow American citizens from.

Obfuscatio: philosopher at largeUStarMember1L
"1. Universal health care. let the free market do drive competition and let government stay out of my health and wallet."

Medicaid and Medicare have been around for quite some time now. How did the Republicans not wipe that out while they were in office? Or are they socialists too?

"2. Loves to tax the hard working Americans."

Yes, not the rich who have money to spare for higher taxes. They paid for his campaign, after all.

"3. hates guns and wants to take our guns away. Eventually using the military to seize power from the people."

Please tell us which piece of legislation has banned which types of guns. I'm at a bit of a loss to identify any.

The militarization of police forces happened under G. W. Bush. You might remember 9/11? The Patriot Act? The Department of Homeland Security? The (domestic) War on Terror? No?

"4. spies on honest Americans."

That's the NSA. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans run the NSA. Try again.

"5. he shook Raul castro's hand."

Nixon shook Mao Zedong's hand. I'm pretty sure he didn't suddenly abandon the Republican Party in favor of the Communist Party. In some circles, shaking someone's hand is considered polite behaviour. You can even look it up, if you choose.

"6. Hates freedom."

Which is why there are only State run newspapers, television, radio, and movies. Riiiiight.

"7. Wants to increase funding for "urban" people."

You mean people living in cities and towns? Where most of America lives? So... like... funding most of the populace? Should all government spending be limited to farmers and ranchers, or just those living in the wilderness?

"8. Death panels."

Are you refering to Guantanimo or the kill list for drone strikes? Please specify. Yesterday 8:23pm


TeenaBurnerULongSnake11L
He said "death panels." Case closed, guilty of trolling. Yesterday 8:25pm


AshisyouUStarMember1L
You are dumb as fuck. Yesterday 8:26pm


AshisyouUStarMember1L
So, youre blaming others for your short comings? Yesterday 8:27pm


Yukon KizmiazUObfuscatio: philosopher at large1L
He. Was. Trolling.

You. Got. Sucked. In. Yesterday 8:28pm


Hold Fast McLeod
Or both.

AshisyouUStarMember21L
You are a hero. So cool and clever. Lame. Yesterday 8:29pm


AshisyouUStarMember1L
You are the batman of comment threads. So, thought provoking. Yesterday 8:30pm


AshisyouUStarMember1L
Trolling isnt cool. Even if you have "good" intentions. Yesterday 8:30pm


AshisyouUStarMember1L
People post comments like that all the time. And they are serious. So... yeah. Your trolling was just to get attention. Not to make a point about the article. Now that you have the attention do you feel better about yourself? Yesterday 8:32pm


1011101101UStarMember21L
Yesterday 8:33pm


ChongsboyUStarMember1L
I don't think so =) Yesterday 8:38pm


Buddakon1973
That's not a star in your member. It's herpes. You got it from raping Ayn Rand's shriveled corpse. Or was it Reagan's...

GDSmith
No.

ParahSalinUzombieeileenlove11L
Obama also wants all the white men, because he's gay and smokes crack. Yesterday 9:00pm


ParahSalinUStarMember1L
You're giving a shout out to Ronald Reagan? The guy who tripled the national debt, raised the debt ceiling 17 times, raised taxes 7 times (but only on the middle class, not on the rich), and had 300 Marines die in Beirut on his watch? Oh, OK, that makes sense. Yesterday 9:02pm


GazesAtShoes
You're one of those "Sheeple" we keep hearing about. Your list reads like you copy/pasted it from the Drudge Report. Are you incapable of having a single original thought?

Obfuscatio: philosopher at largeUYukon Kizmiaz21L
"You. Got. Sucked. In."

You're making some bold assumptions about whether or not I knew he was trolling, and whether or not I was playing along. Where would Jerry Lewis have been without Dean Martin? Costello without Abbott? Quayle without Bush? Yesterday 9:20pm


TrobeGlotter
Once they say "death panel", it's all satire. You can't take that shit seriously, even if the person who wrote it does...

OverlordoftheGrays
Were you saying that when NY Times held the water for Bush and his illegal wars?

rudywasoffsides
Thank you. Could not have said it any better. Since when does anyone trust what the New York Times publishes?

kemperboydUStarMember1L
lol, socialist? you should come to Europe, your left of centre is our right of centre. Yesterday 9:41pm


StarMemberUObfuscatio: philosopher at large1L
You are so smart, you got me. Yesterday 9:45pm


Yukon KizmiazUObfuscatio: philosopher at large11L
Your subtlety sure fooled me. Looking back at your reply, I can see just how well you played it. You wanted people to think you got sucked in, when in reality, you didn't. Well done. Yesterday 9:50pm


VeryWellU10111011011L
Was Chico Marx's cat playing old timey bar piano the whole time? Got so heated in here I'm not sure anyone noticed. Yesterday 9:56pm


Obfuscatio: philosopher at largeUYukon Kizmiaz1L
"You wanted people to think you got sucked in, when in reality, you didn't."

Actually, I totally got sucked in.

No, come to think of it, I didn't, I merely wanted you to think I did.

Or maybe I did and just covered well.

Who knows what the fuck I was or was not doing?

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens... Back, and to the left. Back. And to the left... Where's my tin foil hat? Yesterday 10:03pm


jeremy
I have had conversations with conservatives whose views were much less rational than your statements. Poe's law has a very wide overlap.

Alexander_Crouton-SkitchUStarMember1L
"All I see" kind of makes the credibility a li'l ...

I don't know

...

All I see-ish Yesterday 10:10pm


Bryan77
I actually think the op of this thread is right. It'd be nice if Gawker picked a story from a moderate leaning newspaper. They did not do that in this situation. And I'm not even political. I consider myself apolitical for religious reasons. Not kidding.

jeanindasUJason's Robot1L
Muslims in Egypt hate the USA, while Coptic Christians appreciate America as a refuge as they are being driven out of Egypt.

Muslims in Germany hate the USA more than the other Germans do. Muslim religious leaders preach hate against America because we dare support Israel's right to exist - which is against all Muslim beliefs in any country. Yesterday 10:50pm


Borgrumm
This right here is the moment I started laughing. Beautifully played.

Shariah Healthcare
Which paper would fit the bill, pray tell?

Bryan77
Let's just say that something like Newsmax would be too conservative, and New York Times is much too liberal. To be honest with you, I don't think that there are a lot of middle-of-the-road newspapers. I've given up trying to find one. I think that anybody's best bet is to watch local news on television, make up your…

Jason's RobotUjeanindas11L
"...which is against all Muslim beliefs in any country."

That's a vastly sweeping and short sighted statement.
All Muslims don't believe the same thing nor hold the same political views - just like how all Christians don't have the same beliefs and views nor do all Jews.

And let's be honest. The U.S. has done WAY more than just 'support Israel's right to exist'. Way, way, way more.

It's also naive of you to think Egyptian Christians like or seek out America. They go several places as refugees - America isn't high on that list. They and the aid groups involved know they're more likely to be harassed or even harmed for 'looking and/or sounding Muslim' than being accepted here. Yesterday 11:20pm


ajs1234
I completely thought he was serious until he said "shout out to Ronald Reagan." Then I realized I had bitten on the bait.

Angry Wasp
If this were Politico I'd think you were serious.

NikoBellic
So is "supporting Israel's right to exist" today's reason for invading Iraq? You are the one preaching hate, you vapid piece of shit.

Jecht342UStarMember1L
Actually they say a sucker is born every minute. I'm still not sure if you are playing dumb or just not playing. Yesterday 11:59pm


NikoBellic
Sarcasm is great, trolling is shit. Congrats on attracting the flies, shit!

DrunkBassGuitarUStarMember11L
Giving a "shout out" to Reagan was the best part IMO Today 12:13am


Bryan77
I replied to the op. I'm sorry if this will make it difficult for you to see my reply. I find this way of replying confusing. Sorry about that.

baparri
God, you are stupid! I so pity you. "hates freedom," for christssake, are you kidding me? who actually writes something so addle-brained?

CascadianX1UAshisyou1L
haha look at how mad this guy is Today 1:08am


leavefatassalone
libtards are wimps, not pussies

leavefatassaloneUArden1L
I hate Bush too, what is your libtard excuse now? Today 1:14am


leavefatassaloneUChongsboy1L
Muslims are the world's number one child-butt-rapists, no joke Today 1:15am


leavefatassaloneUAshisyou1L
LOL you are the most naive gullible libtard on Gawker, and that is saying a whole huge hell of a lot Today 1:21am


leavefatassaloneUAshisyou1L
lame ass bitch Today 1:21am


Bryan77
This is what I posted, which seems to have disappeared (I'm not very computer-literate, obviously): Let's just say that something like Newsmax would be too conservative, and New York Times is much too liberal. To be honest with you, I don't think that there are a lot of middle-of-the-road newspapers. I've given up…

ArdenUleavefatassalone1L
Consistency. If Bush can stand watch on almost a dozen embassies attacked and people getting killed without so much as the media batting an eye, but Obama stands watch over Benghazi and suddenly it's impeachment worthy, I'd like to know what the cognitive dissonance behind it is.

Bush embasy attacks = good
Obama embasy attacks = KILL HIM HE'S A WARLOCK MUSLIM! Today 1:28am


leavefatassaloneUArden1L
Like I stated before, it isn't my cognitive dissonance, it is yours. I hated the Bushes since probably before you were born. Today 1:32am


Pastor of MuppetsUStarMember1L
Wait, how is this comment not sarcasm? Today 2:19am


Franklymydear123
In regards to 5, non issue. Considering the tumultuous history the US has had with Cuba there isn't really a path to go where you don't end up irritating people. You a Limbaugh fan?

Pastor of Muppets
Bravo.

AshisyouUleavefatassalone1L
"LOL you are the most naive gullible libtard on Gawker, and that is saying a whole huge hell of a lot"

This is parody, right? Sarcasm? Youre not really that stupid are you? "a whole huge hell of a lot"? Seriously? Today 2:45am


AshisyouUleavefatassalone1L
You hurt my feelings. Stop being a mean panda and give me a hug, silly. Today 2:46am


AshisyouUCascadianX11L
Thanks for making me laugh! Today 2:48am


GrigoritheOctoUStarMember1L
It was #6 that gave up the troll for me, but thanks for giving that its own number. I spit beer out when I read it because of the hilarity. Today 2:49am


CJWK
Yeah because a liberal socialist government would sanction drone strikes on a regular basis.

VeryWellUPastor of Muppets1L
I can't tell who you're talking to because your name is too long, nor do I care about your intent; that burner handle. Today 3:12am


warren
Because that is all you want to see, facts be damned.

Daenerys
You're bad at trolling.

ChongsboyUleavefatassalone1L
I dunno about that~ Could be? I have no clue. Today 5:42am


adsfe
Has everyone forgotten all the articles about the moles who literally work for fox news and post shit on gawker? No one should be responding to stuff like this.

FargonautULithnia1L
I love you... Today 7:56am


naru-joe93
Oh man, you troll too good for us. You coolest guy in gawker comments

cornpuff
That's "all" you see? Because you're wearing blinders, of course.

brandonjayeUthuggyBear1L
You got trolled enough to bring out the n-word. You win, and by that I mean the troll got you the worst. Today 10:34am


Tlachtga
A lot of us just spent Christmas with our relatives, where these bullet points are all taken seriously. Gotta give us a little slack.

Scytherius
You and a few million other morons (2.5 million in fact). Facts are something that you eschew like the plague.

decgeekULongSnake1L
Don't you know that "urban" (wink, wink) is the new right wing socially acceptable replacement for the "N" word but has the added benefit of including hispanics and liberal hipsters who also congregate in cities. Its what the republicans call being more inclusive. Today 10:42am


What Sam
We got a troll!

stfugeek
http://gawker.com/on-its-repeate...
It wouldn't be shocking

JWAdvocate83
...Oh, I hate you so, so, so much.

=/

*slow hand clap

Clutchman83UBirdDroppings1L
You're killing me dude! Why did you stop, this shit is hilarious! Today 11:18am


RolandHTGunnerUtdhurst1L
The NYT has long been the PR arm of the CIA. They are completely compromised, and yes, probably lying. Today 11:47am


Funyuns for breakfast
This thread was far more humorous than expected.

BfunkadeliaUStarMember1L
It's a sign of a weak stance when a person attacks the deliverer of a story or position, instead of the story or position. Today 12:21pm


Mr.Dgaf
Noooooooooo! This is too funny. It cant be real

The-Other-Forrest-Gump
HIS GODDAMNED SOCIALIST AGENDA. HEALTHCARE REFORM. HOMOSEXUALS. THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS. GGGRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

mds_grigrUStarMember1L
how were you able to scan your crayon scribblings into text like this? Today 1:22pm


homomanUStarMember1L
1, the ACA is patterned on Romneycare. You remember Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate of 2012? When he was governor of MA he said it was the right thing to make certain that everyone had insurance so as not to be a drain on the social welfare nets. The big difference between ACA and Romneycare? Romneycare pays for abortions and has single payer (socialized medicine) the ACA has neither.

2, if he loves to tax hardworking US citizens why are taxes at their lowest point in over thirty years?

3, really can you show any of us how or have you only been watching Fox?

4, just like it was authorized under GW Bush.

5, and did you feel the same way when Reagan and GHW Bush shook hands with Fidel Castro and when McCain gave a hug to the Communist Vietnamese leader who was in charge of the prison camps?

6, really? How?

7, really, are you meaning not cutting food stamps?

8, this was disproved before the week was out the first time this was brought up. that seals the deal. You are listening only to Teabagger/Kochsucker sycophant who gets their drivel from the approved sewers that they call outlets. Today 1:28pm


thuggyBearUbrandonjaye1L
I suspect you are right. 41 minutes ago

[elfismiles]

US 'switched sides in the War on Terror'

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if US hadn't 'switched sides in the War on Terror' and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report
Citizens Committee on Benghazi claims the US government allowed arms to flow to al-Qaeda-linked militants who opposed Muammar Gaddafi
Their rise to power, the group says, led to the Benghazi attack in 2012
The group claims the strongman Gaddafi offered to abdicate his presidency, but the US refused to broker his peaceful exit
The commission, part of the center-right Accuracy In Media group, concluded that the Benghazi attack was a failed kidnapping plot
US Ambassador Chris Stevens was to be captured and traded for 'blind sheikh' Omar Abdel-Rahman, who hatched the 1993 WTC bombing plot

By David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor
Published: 15:09 EST, 22 April 2014 | Updated: 09:53 EST, 23 April 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ttack.html

[InfraGard]

On September 11th, 2012, gunmen attacked two American compounds in Benghazi, Libya, killing four Americans. Sean Smith, one of the four killed in the attack, was an IT manager in the real world, but online, he was Vile Rat, a hugely influential diplomat in the video game Eve Online. Alex talks to Sean's friend Alex "The Mittani" Gianturco about who Sean was both in Eve and in the real world.

http://www.onthemedia.org/story/tldr-11-rip-vile-rat/

[justdrew]

US 'switched sides in the War on Terror'

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if US hadn't 'switched sides in the War on Terror' and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report
Citizens Committee on Benghazi claims the US government allowed arms to flow to al-Qaeda-linked militants who opposed Muammar Gaddafi
Their rise to power, the group says, led to the Benghazi attack in 2012
The group claims the strongman Gaddafi offered to abdicate his presidency, but the US refused to broker his peaceful exit
The commission, part of the center-right Accuracy In Media group, concluded that the Benghazi attack was a failed kidnapping plot
US Ambassador Chris Stevens was to be captured and traded for 'blind sheikh' Omar Abdel-Rahman, who hatched the 1993 WTC bombing plot

By David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor
Published: 15:09 EST, 22 April 2014 | Updated: 09:53 EST, 23 April 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ttack.html

yes, and that truth is exactly what the fools on fox have been working overtime to obscure since day one. fucking obama didn't clean house and the neocon scum have been running the show since 2008, and president fool can take the fall for all I care at this point, but of course, nothing's going to happen, since this will be quickly forgotten.

[elfismiles]

Smoking Gun? WH Email Instructs Officials to Blame Benghazi on Video
Rhodes gave direction that the purpose of Rice's appearance was to "underscore that these protests are rooted in and Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”
4.29.2014 | Jeff Dunetz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3QNrKQIo3Q

A new State Department document obtained by Judicial Watch ​via a FOIA request reveals that then White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials coordinated a campaign to “reinforce” President Obama's image and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being “rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.”

According to the Judicial Watch press release:
“

The main point of the White House team’s strategy was to paint the terrorist attack as being “rooted in an Internet video and not a failure of policy,” Judicial Watch said in an emailed release. Meanwhile, the State Department — at the same time that message was being shaped — initially considered the incident simply an “attack,” and perhaps even a kidnap try, the watchdog said.

A review of the Rhodes' email (shown below) shows it to be a possible "smoking gun" explaining how Ambassador Rice received the direction to blame the Benghazi attack on an internet video.

The email was sent two days before Susan Rice appeared on five of the Sunday news programs, Friday, September 14, 2012, at 8:09 p.m. with the subject line: “RE: PREP CALL with Susan, Saturday at 4:00 pm ET." indicating that Rhodes was dictating the political line that was used for the Ambassador Rice appearance.

In the goals section, Rhodes gave direction that the purpose of Rice's appearance was "To underscore that these protests are rooted in and Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”

Then in the "top lines," section Rhodes returns to the You Tube video:
“

We’ve made our views on this video crystal clear. The United States government had nothing to do with it. We reject its message and its contents. We find it disgusting and reprehensible. But there is absolutely no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence. And we are working to make sure that people around the globe hear that message.

Copied on the email were all the major Administration communication and political personnel including: White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, Deputy Press Secretary Joshua Earnest, then-White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, then-White House Deputy Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, then-National Security Council Director of Communications Erin Pelton, Special Assistant to the Press Secretary Howli Ledbetter, and then-White House Senior Advisor and political strategist Davie Plouffe, so there is no way the White House can contend they were unaware of the memo.

While the mainstream media attempts to convince the public that everything about the Bengazi attack that killed four American heroes on 9/11/12 has been discovered, the release of this and other memos revealed by Judicial Watch proves there is much more to be investigated.



http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/smoking ... hazi-video

[JackRiddler]

Okay, what if it turns out that an attempt was made to deflect blame for whatever intelligence or security failure or bad command decision set the stage for the killing of the ambassador and three other U.S. personnel? Out of 501 randomly selected crimes of the U.S. government, what does that make it in terms of its importance? No. 501? I'd argue for No. 502.

A group of NATO powers staged a bombing of Libya to force a regime change, and caused damage to that society from which it is unlikely ever to recover. That's a very big crime. It's also one in a long series of similar aggressive actions by the same group of traditional imperialist states acting in a variety of coalitions through the decades. At some point, in the resultant chaos, due to whatever unpredictable situation developed for whatever precise reasons on the ground, some of the local personnel of the military power that led the bombing campaign were killed. That's a predictable and minor consequence of the actual crime.

For years, a Republican noise machine has fetishized the minutiae of this incident into something literally about 10 million times more important than it actually is, for the purpose of personally discrediting the currently Democratic administration of the perpetual war machine, and to reinforce the general prejudice that makes the life of one member of the U.S. elite more important than the dying of millions of non-U.S. people around the globe, or the even the crushing of 10 million U.S. students by their debts. It's a grotesque declaration of their priorities.

The corporate media, as is their wont, have played along in legitimating this focus on the minutiae of some minor incident in Libya (while not bothering to investigate anything about the imperialist aggression in Libya). They don't generally support the Republican interpretation, but they grant it coverage, since it has always been essential to give extra weight to Republican obsessions. That's how it's always been. The game is to label the militarist Democratic party as liberal, overly tolerant, peace-seeking, weak surrender monkeys, as the farthest left that it's possible to go, the farthest left that will even be acknowledged as existing on television. Also, the Republicans, being based in entirely irrational concerns, are the likelier of the duopoly parties to suddenly collapse and damage the useful narrative of two opposing parties representing all legitimate concerns. So they're getting a perpetual free pass on the made-up scandal front. (Compare what happens typically in Democratic sex scandals to the Republican ones.)

Meanwhile, EVERYTHING else is more important. Even what happened to the Malaysian plane (still 99% of all CNN coverage) is more important. Rounding up, with 239 dead, the plane is 60 times more important. Also, they weren't engaged in fucking up some distant foreign country and thus wittingly putting themselves at risk, they were only flying.

[justdrew]

--> jack


it's no smoking gun AT ALL, they did think at that time the "protests" going on were about the fucking video, because that's what the protestors said. That a group used the protests as cover to stage a kidnap attempt was in that false smoking gun too, they suspected that early. big deal. judicial watch working on promoting its name of any substance. typical.

[JackRiddler]

Meanwhile:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27209843

Gunmen Storm Libya Parliament
Source: BBC

Gunmen have stormed Libya's parliament, forcing MPs to abandon a vote on a new prime minister, officials say.

Correspondents say lawmakers left the building after hearing gunshots.

The attempted vote followed the resignation of Abdullah al-Thinni, who stepped down as prime minister earlier this month after he and his family were targeted by militiamen.

Libya has been plagued by instability since armed groups toppled Muammar Gaddafi's regime in 2011.

Earlier reports that several people had been wounded in the attack on Tuesday are unconfirmed.

The BBC's Rana Jawad in Tripoli says Libya's national congress has been stormed on dozens of occasions by gunmen over the past year and a half.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27209843

See what I mean? How much coverage is this getting from U.S. media (corporate or progressive) this week? Ha!

[Laodicean]

http://youtu.be/56ADl6oT1fk

[justdrew]

what a fucking moron, wasting his life, flushing it all down the drain.

Those people can go straight to hell. fuck them and the train of idiocy they ride around on.

FOR those not watching it: the recap is that now they have poof that obama made the video and uploaded it after the attack. because that makes a real big difference doesn't it?

BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS, the attacked is responsible for the actions of the attacker.

I'm guessing his career as a "youth pastor" didn't work out, so now this.


yes, he's now addressing his video's to the "CEO" of youtube.
he's clearly a wannabe manipulative little cult leader. People, stop following shitbirds like this.

[seemslikeadream]

[seemslikeadream]

Top 10 Attacks on US Embassies in Republican Administrations that Lindsey Graham doesn’t Care about
By Juan Cole | May. 2, 2014 |

(By Juan Cole)
The Republicans in Congress keep beating the dead horse of Benghazi. Now they have sprung a briefing memo for Susan Rice, based on CIA talking points. I shows that the briefing hewed to the CIA line of the time, which was that the Benghazi disturbances were copy cats of those in Cairo, all provoked by a Coptic-Republican Islamophobic network that put a phony film on the internet attacking the Prophet Muhammad and underlining that it was made in America. (The CIA version actually has things to recommend it, and an NYT investigation found that it was local groups, not al-Qaeda, behind the Benghazi consulate attack.) The briefing memo is what one would expect and isn’t scandalous. That the Obama administration hadn’t released it earlier is perhaps disappointing. But then, we’ve never gotten to see the Bush era memos on how they planned to do briefings on the lack of WMD in Iraq, or about the Abu Ghraib torture scandal.
Senator Lindsey Graham called the Obama Democrats “scumbags” for not releasing the briefing memo earlier. But he’s never demanded the Bush administration memos on its extensive failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It continues to be worthwhile underlining, moreover, that far more embassy attacks occurred under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush than have under Obama, and that Republican in Congress never investigated Reagan or Bush for their failures. To wit:
1. The US embassy in Athens, Greece, was attacked in 2007.
2. The US embassy in Serbia was burned down early in 2008?
3. The US embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, were attacked in September 2008
4. A suicide bombing at the US consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, in 2006 killed a US diplomat.
5. In 2006, a car bomb was set off outside the US embassy in Damascus.
6. Assailants set off bombs outside the US embassy in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, in 2004, at a time when the Uzbek government was allied with Bush in the ‘war on terror’ and was trying 15 persons it accused of al-Qaeda ties. Bush should have known.
7. The US consulate in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, was attacked in 2004.
8. Anti-American Iraqis were regularly shelling the Green Zone in Baghdad where the US embassy is, in 2008.
9. In April 1983, radical Shiite suicide bombers blew up the US embassy in Beirut, killing 63. Reagan did nothing to prevent this attack, and his ultimate response to it and a later deadly attack on US Marines in Beirut was to quietly withdraw from Lebanon (he called it “redeploying offshore”). Democrats at the time controlled Congress but they didn’t have endless hearings on how Reagan failed our diplomats by not being prepared, not about whether it was wise for Reagan to shell Lebanese villages from the sea and kill 1,000 people.
10. The American embassy in Kuwait was attacked under Reagan in 1983 by radical members of the Da`wa (Islamic Mission) Party. George W. Bush later presided over the election of one of the bombers to the Iraqi parliament. The Da`wa Party, which has since given up terrorism and become a democratic party, has ruled Iraq since 2005, courtesy of Bush.
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