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"HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013, NYC

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:59 pm
by JackRiddler
The controversy over the CIA’s production help for “Zero Dark Thirty,” with its apology for torture, was followed by an Academy Award for Best Picture for the CIA fable, “Argo.” Michelle Obama presented the Oscar from the White House. Are these just the latest products of Hollywood’s love affair with the US national security state? Or are we witnessing a new convergence driven by geopolitical realities?

Join philosopher Bryan Sacks and author Nicholas Levis for a presentation on “Hollywood and CIA,” with Rutgers Media Studies Professor Deepa Kumar as discussant, at the Left Forum 2013 in New York City:

Hollywood and CIA. Hollywood as Propaganda Ministry: Ideological confluence, security state influence, co-creation of enemies. Counterpropaganda. With film clips, audience participation, and a pitch meeting!

Left Forum Session 7, Sunday June 9, 3:00pm, Room W610.

For more info, panelist bios, and an exciting reading and viewing list, follow the link below!

http://www.occupyastorialic.org/events/ ... orum-2013/

Facebook Event:
https://www.facebook.com/events/151256771720501/?ref=22


We are going to film this sucker and upload it for you.

But if on that day you're within two miles of any stop in the MTA system (including LIRR, Metro North and NJTransit) you must come!

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:28 pm
by JackRiddler
Heh.

Hollywood Myths vs. the Real CIA

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/fe ... l-cia.html

Check out the parsing on this entry:

CIA wrote:
Myth: The CIA spies on US citizens.
Reality: The Federal Bureau of Investigation has the lead on intelligence matters in the United States, especially those directed against US citizens. However, the CIA and the FBI work together as needed to protect the interests of US national security. The CIA does not collect information concerning the domestic activities of US citizens, but its foreign intelligence collection mission can be conducted anywhere.



The world is a battlefield.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:29 am
by Wombaticus Rex
Got a wedding gig but I'd be interested....in trolling.

The premise of "a new convergence driven by geopolitical realities?" is non-promising, in terms of the historical context and perspective of the participants.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:00 pm
by JackRiddler
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Got a wedding gig but I'd be interested....in trolling.

The premise of "a new convergence driven by geopolitical realities?" is non-promising, in terms of the historical context and perspective of the participants.


Your elaboration is solicited, desired, anticipated! Speak, please!

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:43 am
by JackRiddler
Well come on... bks is also dying to know, he tells me! We consider your comments to be a gold standard (pre-1971 gold standard, of course).

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:31 am
by elfismiles
Whoot! Congrats!

Can't wait to watch the replay.

- SMiles

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:00 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
Actually, Ed Rampell's article in Counterpunch this month should take care of all my concerns. I was just (very) wary of how the conversation was framed, but that's just some intern vomiting out copy for a whole conference of events they know nothing about, right?

I'd whip something up but I am not even in that building these days, it'd take me awhile to change track and...I'm not going to.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:19 am
by JackRiddler
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Actually, Ed Rampell's article in Counterpunch this month should take care of all my concerns. I was just (very) wary of how the conversation was framed, but that's just some intern vomiting out copy for a whole conference of events they know nothing about, right?


Some intern is me. With 650 panels or so, everyone has to front their own.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:54 am
by Wombaticus Rex
650 panels? Holy fuck, daug, that's kinda excessive even by NYC standards, eh? I salute you.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm
by JackRiddler
Nope, it's a normal year at the Left Forum... which has been growing, certainly!

Copy is intended to tease & not commit too much thesis in advance. Anyway, doubtless we're in a new phase. Not a fundamental transformation but quite a bit of coming out party since the new administration. The empire-entertainment relationship has not been this open or affirmative ever, I don't think. Not since WW2, anyway.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:25 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
JackRiddler wrote:The empire-entertainment relationship has not been this open or affirmative ever, I don't think. Not since WW2, anyway.


Definitely agree.

80's were a peak moment, too! Very important part of the Reagan machine.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:44 pm
by thurnundtaxis
Suggested location for post-panel Cheap Beer Forum, aptly named "The Patriot": http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-patriot-saloon-new-york

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:22 am
by JackRiddler
I don't know if post-panel beer is possible for me because of how the whole thing is a massive networking opportunity. I've been invited to an LF management party.

ANYWAY, IT'S THIS WEEKEND!!!

Hollywood and CIA
https://www.facebook.com/events/151256771720501/

Also, better summary:
http://www.occupyastorialic.org/events/ ... orum-2013/

Also, see my complete Left Forum schedule as the top "status" for now - I chair four panels and co-organize the Greeks and Turks demo.
https://www.facebook.com/nikos.evangelos

The Turks and Greeks together at OWS Zuccotti in Solidarity with the Turkish uprising:
https://www.facebook.com/events/200301413453024

This may be huge.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:46 am
by dada
I will definitely be there for the panel on Sunday. We'll just have to do post-post-panel beers, later in the week.

Re: "HOLLYWOOD AND CIA" - Stealth RI Panel, Left Forum 2013,

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:18 am
by christs4sale
Can you still get tickets? It says registration has ended on the Left Forum website.