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Iamwhomiam wrote:Interesting post, divideandconquer. Thank you for sharing.
I'd love to read the Lancaster woman's bit; would that be possible?
Real or not, there's been 11 generations of intermarriages and offspring since its disbanding. Something to think about. Especially if real.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:John Todd?
Well, that one at least is pretty easy, no? He's a liar, who calculated his whole persona to make a living speaking to Evangelical Christians who wanted to believe his pitch. The others are far more tangled and troubling, but Todd has always struck me as a very straightforward human turd.
The "Illuminati" name is so problematic because Weishaupt’s goals, to the extent that history has been able to document them, were pretty benign. Not exactly Black Lodge of the Qliphoth material, at least. Meanwhile, which mystic tradition does have a clearly documented history of targeting children, using mind control, and using incredibly brutal means to achieve their ends? The Jesuits.
Even here in Vermont, there’s all kinds of sick little covens and cults, and everyone of those mundane teratomas is molded in the same image: men who want to be Gods. Funny how often they lack any ambition beyond fulfilling downright animal base desires and crushing all the pretty things. I don’t mean to dismiss it, because that urge is fucking dangerous even amongst people who have no power at all, as my community learned all too well by now.
Regardless, of course, all of these little afterbirths of Baphomet are quite keen to claim the Illuminati brand name, because after all, why half-ass your bullshit? Go for the Big Lie.
PA being rampant with organized Satanism, on the other hand, is something I accept as a fact of life in the real world. Hugely appreciate this dose of local history from someone with actual context.
Iamwhomiam wrote:Interesting post, divideandconquer. Thank you for sharing.
I'd love to read the Lancaster woman's bit; would that be possible?
FourthBase wrote:I briefly dated a woman whose father was almost 70 when she was born. We once joked that if his father and his father's father had also been that old when they were born, then her hypothetical great-grandfather could have born before the American Revolution. Something to think about, too.
Question about Parker: Are there any transcripts for his interviews? Any? Couldn't find any.
divideandconquer wrote:At the same time, I really do think that there is an "Illuminati", although, they do not refer to themselves as the Illuminati. The "sacred geometry" and the symbolism that is so prevalent in Washington DC, London, Rome, etc is enough to convince me that some sort of strong occult belief system underlies the behavior of those in power...that dates back to the birth of this nation, and before. Not to mention, the undeniable synchronicity of dates, times, and events, and the whole obsession with numerology and astrology.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:My notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valley,_Pennsylvania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arden,_Delaware
Both are named as "Satanic Cultist" founded towns, a notion I don't ridicule offhand. Evidence for Dark, Fucked-Up Shit going down in PA from an early point in cracker US history is not problematic to me; and it also makes strategic, imperative sense they'd want to leave Philly. (Salo comes to mind.)
Jay mentions the center of the cult in question's attention as "Andres" / "Andriss" - "the Marquis of Hell" -- I am familiar from goetia trolling and Solomon sulking with the phrase "Grand Marquis of Hell" but seem to recall there was a rotating cast thereof. Would appreciate any pointers on spelling / background.
Jay claims there are +1000 sacrifices buried in each town. I would be interested in his numbers on how many participants are involved -- I have seen firsthand what even a group of 5 debased mammals can accomplish, and I shudder to contemplate anything more than 3 generations deep.
I have serious, deep, powerful doubts about people who claim specific, nuanced memories from the first year of their life. I don't believe you right now, Jay.
If Arden, DE is the home of a whole town of protected mass murderers I wonder if I'd even expect to see evidential proof, knowing what I do about how little LEO's care about marginalized mammals. Still, I'm curious now about the locale and the local missing persons roll call. Sadly, "protected mass murderers" smells like a claim with a lot more potential for corroborating evidence than "protected pedophiles."
Delaware state gov being under the control of the DuPont family is the single least problematic claim in the entire video. His characterization of the DuPont family as "Satanic" is even hard to question, they've had a footprint in Vermont and the NEK is full of hippies, activists and even disillusioned lawyers who know the DuPoint crime syndicate inside out. I was raised on that, and have always wondered why "conspiracy theory" is so John Birch focused on the Rothschilds & Rockefellers.
Gross as it is, elite financial support for low-level snuff p*** squares with the Nihoul/X material and some Saudis I've talked too much with. Jay is at least plausible here.
Arden, DE as "90% Satanist" sounds like something that's verifiable and worth investigating. Even if that number is closer to 50% that's massive, utterly massive, and needs to be followed up on because it's a rare verifiable angle available to external spectators like myself.
Right at the end, he shouts out James Shelby Downard and gets cut off....
justdrew wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andras#Marquis_Andras
Charles H. Stephens (1855?-1931) was an instructor at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a painter of Native American subjects. He had lived among the Blackfeet, and amassed an extensive collection of artifacts. The fireplace that Price designed for his studio is in the silhouette of a Thunderbird, a symbol that also appears on the building's exterior in Henry Mercer’s Moravian tiles. Alice Barber Stephens (1858-1932) [see some of her work here ] was a highly successful illustrator for magazines and children's books. They raised their son, D. Owen Stephens (1894-1937) in Rose Valley, and painted there until their deaths.
Thunderbird Lodge then became the home of a leading social activist couple, Allen Seymour and Mildred Scott Olmsted. He was a lawyer, a member of the Men's Commission for Women's Suffrage, and helped in the founding of the American Civil Liberties Union. She worked with the American Birth Control League and was the longtime director of the U.S. section of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. Together they worked with the American Friends Service Committee, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and many other liberal organizations. The house was used as a safe meeting place for other activists, including Jane Addams, James Farmer, George Washington Carver, and Martin Luther King, Jr.
Rose Valley is a small, historic borough in Delaware County, Pennsylvania, United States. Its area is 0.7 square miles (1.8 km2) and the population was 944 at the 2000 census. It was settled by Quaker farmers in 1682, and later water mills along Ridley Creek drove manufacturing in the nineteenth century. In 1901 Rose Valley was founded as an Arts and Crafts community by architect Will Price, who bought 80 acres (320,000 m2) of land around the former Rose Valley textile mill. Price, a follower of the Henry George's economics was also a co-founder of Arden, Delaware, where he tried to create a single-tax utopian community. Nevertheless the single-tax ideal was never implemented in Rose Valley and crafts works soon foundered, leaving a legacy of impressive architecture, a preserved landscape, and a regional theatre, the Hedgerow Theatre (founded in 1923), as well as an artistic community that includes writers, painters, and architects. As a former mayor said, "Rose Valley is an island of non-conformity." The Rose Valley Historic District, covering essentially all of the borough, was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 2010.
Georgism is an economic philosophy and ideology which holds that people own what they create, but that things found in nature, most importantly land, belong equally to all. The Georgist philosophy is based on the writings of the economist Henry George (1839–1897), and is usually associated with the idea of a single tax on the value of land.
Georgists argue that a tax on land value is economically efficient, fair, and equitable; and that it can generate sufficient revenue so that other taxes (e.g. taxes on profits, sales or income), which are less fair and efficient, can be reduced or eliminated. A tax on land value has been described by many as a progressive tax, since it would be paid primarily by the wealthy, and would reduce economic inequality.
8bitagent wrote:I feel bad for people who have suffered real SRA/ritual/mind control abuse as the only ones willing to give them a platform are a lot of conspiracy quacks who have no discernment from conspiratainment and reality.
Here's a big clue to things: There is no group called "The Illuminati". If there are black lodges of black brotherhoods, they have their own names, perhaps even unspoken. Do we not see conspiracy researchers cover the real deal because it's too frightening? So they have to dip from the "Vatican/Illuminati/Black Pope/etc" fiction well?
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