Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:07 am

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Ambling Towards Oblivion
Russell Brand, the Posh Left and the Politics of Class


by KIM NICOLINI

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“Ambling Toward Oblivion,” graphite, cheap ass ballpoint pen, india ink and watercolor on paper, 18×24. Drawing by Kim Nicolini.

In case you couldn’t tell, this is a drawing I did of Russell Brand. I decided to draw him as part of my Headlines series which I am currently working on. I seriously didn’t know a damn thing about Brand until he was brought under my radar because of his essay in the October 24 Issue of The New Statesman in which Brand – pop star Katy Perry’s ex-husband, comedian, and “notorious womanizer” – talks about ineffective government, the silencing and apathy of the disenfranchised, and the need for revolt. What interested me more than the Brand essay itself was the backlash that Brand and people on the Left who support his political stance received from elite Academic Leftists and insulated politically correct Secular Leftists. In my opinion, Brand stirring the pot of class, activism and political agitation is even more important than the closed circles of self-congratulatory Leftists who purport to be champions of the under and working classes while they have never gotten their hands dirty and refuse to see how class affects real people – not just people who are represented as ideas in books or vehicles for propaganda.

When I announced that I was going to draw Russell Brand, my fifteen year old daughter exclaimed with undisguised disgust: “Why would you draw Russell Brand? He’s horrible!” When I asked her why he was horrible, my daughter said that Brand exploited Katy Perry by posting photos of her on Twitter without her permission. In other words, my high school age kid knew a lot more about Brand than I did, but I quickly did my research. I read his article in the New Statesman, watched his movie Get Me To The Greek, and read his book My Booky Wook: A Memoir of Sex, Drugs, and Stand-Up to get a sense of who this guy is that is getting so much attention. My first assessment is that he is a guy who came from the trenches and fought his way out with his humor and energy. He snubs his nose at the politically correct elite, and in his essay in the New Statesman he provides a voice that people (especially young people) will listen to. No, he’s not going to start a revolution, but he has stirred the pot, and motion is better than stagnancy.

Russell Brand and those who have “taken his side” have gotten a lot of shit. Brand has especially been reamed for taking the stance of the revolutionary while he is living high on the hog in his celebrity and riches. However, it must be noted that Brand himself outwardly critiques his position and asks “Who am I to talk?” Well, he is able to talk for a couple of reasons: 1) as a pop culture icon, his voice will be heard by young people; and 2) he has come from the lower classes himself and knows what that life is like. He is not speaking from theory but from experience. For the record, Russell Brand – asshole, womanizer or not – did not come from privilege. He came from the lower classes and was lucky enough to joke his way out of it. He personally knows the struggles that the underclass face. He knows the streets, the hopelessness, the drugs, the feeling of beaten down and not able to get out.

Let me state something else quite clearly. You cannot erase class no matter how many swank hotel rooms you stay in. Class sticks even if your bank account is lined with greenbacks. I know firsthand how it feels to wear my class like a coat of anxiety. No matter how far you climb on the cultural or economic ladder, if you come from the underclass, you never stop feeling your inferior position. With elitist Leftists slamming you at every turn, the anxiety is amplified to the Nth. Not only do you feel awkward and anxious occupying a strata where you don’t feel you belong, but you get critiqued by people who think they know more about class than you do when you live with the burdens of your class background every day. Class manifests itself in a person’s entire psycho-social biological being, and it is not simply erased because one becomes successful of the surface.

It is clear from reading Brand and watching him in his movie, that he is fully aware of the vulnerability of his position because of his class background, so he exploits his class origins for humor in ways that Leftists often find offensive. (e.g. The “African Child” video in Get Him to the Greek which is an overt critique of Hollywood centrist leftists like George Clooney, Ben Affleck et al.) Also, Brand isn’t just funny. He is self-reflexive and serious in his humor. He understands how his drug addiction and other “personality flaws” are connected to class, and he uses his experience to formulate his ideas into terms that can connect with those who are “in it” and not just outside observers.

My general position has always been that getting “the masses” to think politically outside the box is a good thing, and popular culture is an effective way to do that. This goes back to my early days with Bad Subjects whose “manifesto” promotes Political Education for Everyday Life. Academic left elitists and closed circles of politically correct secular Leftists only preach to the choir. They rarely accomplish a damn thing except stroking each others’ egos. Regardless of Brand’s celebrity, his words and repurposed Marxism will reach many more people than those Posh Lefties sitting in their ivory towers. I’m a populist at heart, and you aren’t going to reach the populace with a lot of high fallutin’ language and discourse that no one but your elite club can understand. Brand’s writing reads like a pop song with punch that will get people riled and thinking.

The text I included on my drawing is cut-up text from Brand’s New Statesman essay and reads as follows:

Ambling towards oblivion. Whores, virtueless horses and money-grabbing dicklickers. Young people have been marketed without the economic means to participate in the carnival. Apathy is a rational reaction to a system that no longer represents, hears or addresses the vast majority of people. Mechanised indifference and inefficiency. Apathy is the biggest obstacle to change. Zeroes lining up three wide. Planes falling from the sky. This is serious, you cunt. The devil has all the best tunes. No obstacles to the agendas of these slow-thighed beasts. Blithering chimps, in razor-sharp suits, with razor-sharp lines, pimped and crimped by spin doctors and speech-writers. The feeling that you aren’t being heard or seen or represented isn’t psychosis; it’s government policy. (Pieces of Russell Brand, 24 October 2013)

Those words have some bang behind them. Brand is not going to start a revolution, and he openly says as much. However, his language packs revolutionary punch, not unlike the Beat poets but for the new millennium. Speaking out politically in terms that the general populace can understand and relate to has its merits. What good does analyzing Marxist theory in a closed club of Left elitists provide for the general population on the streets? The answer is easy. None. Brand is a pop figure speaking in a language the general population can understand. Regardless of the opinion of well-credentialed Left Elites or the PoshLeft as Mark Fisher (author of Capitalist Realism) refers to them, Brand is not stupid or uninformed. He has done his homework even if it wasn’t in the halls of higher education institutions. If you read Brand’s essay closely, he’s wielding some pretty straightforward Marxist theory, but it’s packaged like a pop song not a dissertation.

We live in times of great apathy and hopelessness. To quote one of my favorite recent phrases, kids “could give a flying fuck” about a bunch of intellectual snobs citing their source material and stroking each other’s egos while excluding the vast majority of the population from their discussion. For those of us with children, it is very hard to imagine a future for our kids, and very hard for them to imagine one for themselves. Kids are not going to listen to the PoshLeft or aging hippie activists. Sorry, it’s just not going to happen. Idealism is well and fine, but reality is reality. Kids see a big wall of hopelessness facing them down in their future. The voices they are going to listen to aren’t the voices of their parents, intellectual elites, or old school Lefty activists. What will stir them out of their numb hopeless slumber are the voices they are familiar with — the voices of pop culture, voices like Russell Brand, which can have tremendous ability to stir young people out of their state of apathy and into a state of political agitation.

When the PoshLeft isn’t excluding the general population, they get their kicks deriding people like Brand and those who are brave enough to publicly take Brand’s side. People like me, for example. I have no doubt I will come under fire for writing this essay. Maybe Brand has a Messiah Complex. Maybe he is full of shit while he sits in his posh hotel and spouts revolutionary catch phrases, but he is stirring the pot using the everyday language of the streets. Brand agitates, and it’s better to agitate than do nothing at all.

Brand has gotten a lot of shit for being a hypocrite and being a known “womanizer” flying high on his celebrity. But he never denies the hypocritical position he occupies. Brand pokes fun at himself all along the way. When he said that he took the assignment of editor for the New Statesman because “a pretty woman asked me,” clearly he is poking fun at himself and the Left media’s representation of him. It is ludicrous that people take this so seriously. Brand is obviously jibing the politically correct left who want to place everything in terms of race and gender while excluding consideration of class, as if somehow being a white man exempts someone from the underclass. Identity politics are just another form of Left Elitism. So what if Russell Brand likes women? So what if he fucks a new girl every week? Who’s to say they’re not enjoying it to? Sex happens. Focusing on Brand’s sexual activity as a reason to dismiss his overall message about class is just a sign of how identity politics are part and parcel of the problem, not part of the solution.

It’s not just Brand who has been reamed by the Left, Right and everyone in between, but more importantly Leftists who have taken Brand’s side have been put under the gun. It’s not surprising that the PoshLeft are so rigid and judgmental about Brand and anyone who supports Brand’s Brand of politicizing the masses since the PoshLeft is even less tolerant on many levels than the extreme Right. They criticize the Right Wing and they criticize any part of the Left that does not follow the rules of their elite club. As Brand states in his essay, “The right seeks converts and the left seeks traitors. This moral superiority that is peculiar to the left is a great impediment to momentum. It is also a right drag when you’re trying to enjoy a riot.”

I understand what it feels like to be against the wall and under the firing squad of the Posh Left. I am not part of them, nor will I ever be. I don’t fit the mold. Don’t hold the credentials. But I am as much a populist and political champion than the best and worst of the Posh Left. I have lived in the trenches, dug my way out, did my “book learning,” and helped a whole hell of a lot of underclass disenfranchised people in the process. I have been very “lucky” to gain some cultural capital that has put me on the map in some capacity. My writing has been published in books and journals internationally. I have articles in academic presses. I have been blessed by recognition for what I do by many people.

But being “under the radar” of the Left Elite (whether secular or academic) comes with a great deal of stress and tension. Class is hardwired into you. It doesn’t go away just because you transcend your origins. You don’t fit in with the people you came from, nor do you fit in with the place you occupy now. There is a constant sense of inferiority that can lead to actual physical anxiety, headaches, and nausea. Class is embodied, and it does not just leave the body because you publish a few articles. In fact, class tension is only amplified. I am much more anxious and unnerved by The Left than I am by The Right as I frequently feel literally tied in knots being under their scrutiny.

I have had to develop a pretty thick skin writing for CounterPunch. While the very large majority of the readers support my work for which I am grateful, there are always those left elitists who feel the need to “set me straight.” It’s funny how many of them feel compelled to sign their name with a “Dr” or “PhD” and include their academic position, just so they’re sure I understand that they are somehow more equipped to pontificate on class than I am. Who am I? I woman with an eighth grade education, who spent her teen years getting a “street education” and who eventually got a B.A. from UC Berkeley through sheer will and the strength to fight that I learned from my working class origins. Still, I have spent my whole adult life working day jobs to make ends meet while squeezing some writing out in between. Where are these academic leftists real life class credentials, the ones they got from life in the trenches and not the classroom?

I am the daughter of an ironworker, a child of the blue collar working class, yet these “class theorists” – the academic Left elites and their secular equivalents – somehow think that they understand class so much more than me or Russell Brand, because they have the credentials. Well they don’t understand. Their exclusionary practices make me feel sick, furious, and invisible all at once. The Left Elite is a society of privilege. They have had their way paved and paid, and their self-righteous approach to class doesn’t benefit anyone but themselves.

I guess I am lucky that my working class origins instilled in me an urgency to produce work as a way of surviving and not failing or falling back into the hole I climbed out of. I would guess that Russell Brand feels somewhat of the same pressure which is why he was able to “get out.” The pressure of our class origins doesn’t go away. I’m no Russell Brand, but my hard work writing and producing for all these years has given me some public presence as a writer and a thinker who has gotten some recognition from the Left. Interestingly this recognition and acknowledgment comes double-edged. On the one hand, I feel empowered that my hard work has given me a voice that people listen to. On the other, I constantly scrutinized by the Elite Left, and I feel self-doubt and “marked” by the class I came from despite what cultural capital I have attained.

Interestingly, Russell Brand’s essay and the debates that arose from it inspired me to embrace my own voice and feel empowered by my ability to have faith in myself, rise up and say “Fuck you oppressors!” And I’m not talking about the oppressors from the Right, but the Left Elitists who think they are the only ones who have a right to talk about class. I’m here to inform you that they are not. Russell Brand came from the lower classes, and fought his way out with a sense of humor. Even if he is rich and famous now, he has just as much right to talk about class as anyone else. And so do I. His words matter because they are words that people can understand. So are mine. Use the language of the people to speak to the people. Use pop culture to change culture. Fuck fear inspired by class. Fuck fear of failure. Fuck those who sit in their insulated clubs of privilege and criticize for the sake of criticizing. Russell Brand’s words are as valid as the next guy’s. They’ve got the street cred, book cred, and writing cred to go with them. And so do mine.

Kim Nicolini is an artist, poet and cultural critic living in Tucson, Arizona. Her writing has appeared in Bad Subjects, Punk Planet, Souciant, La Furia Umana, and The Berkeley Poetry Review. She recently published her first book, Mapping the Inside Out, in conjunction with a solo gallery show by the same name. She can be reached at knicolini@gmail.com.

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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby NeonLX » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:57 am

^^^Re: Kim Nicolini's rant...as the son of hillbillies, I can see where she's coming from. My parents never went to college. My stepdad made it into high school, but never graduated. He was the smartest & most capable person I've ever met.

Which is apropos of nothing. Except that I think I know what "apropos" means, and I used it in a sentence.
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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:03 pm

Mind Shift: Enlightening Our Global Culture w/ Russell Brand & Eve Ensler

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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby Sounder » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:39 am

I got an error message at about the eight minute mark, (along with other computer glitches) so will watch the whole thing later.

Here Russel mentioned the loquaciousness of folks talking about consciousness, but all it really comes down to is being nice to people.

This is correct, but how are people going to become 'nice' in the face of a conceptual structuring system that splits 'reality' and thereby gives credibility and power to extremists?
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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:00 am

Russel Brand continues to be one of the few refreshing voices in this exhaustively shitty modern era we're in. Anyone who can dismantle both the fucktards at MSNBC, BBC and Fox in just a few short sentences gets my admiration.
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Postby Project Willow » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:13 pm

Well, 522 lost by around 40,000 votes but...

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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:30 pm



Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby norton ash » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:28 am

John Lydon seriously doesn’t agree with self-styled revolutionary Russell Brand when it comes to political engagement.

The Sex Pistol, who earlier this week called the Essex-born comedian a “bum hole” for refusing to vote, has taken his denunciation of Brand even further by saying: “It’s the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard.”

Speaking to Polly Toynbee in an interview for the Guardian, he added: “The likes of Russell Brand coming along and saying something so damn ignorant is absolutely spoon-feeding it to them.

“Your individuality, your sense of right. You must not forget 100 years ago, who could vote here? And to have that so easily, so flippantly, ignored, in that lazy arse ‘I take drugs and tell not funny jokes’ way” - though it must be noted that Brand has been clean for over a decade.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 96165.html


Russell Brand has addressed criticism made by John Lydon, who called his refusal to vote "the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard".

The musician said that not voting was "damn ignorant", adding that the comedian was "preaching his views from his mansion" and "he'll make you all homeless".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 98218.html

This is really quite a productive dialogue. Way better than any MSM suit-fight.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:28 pm

Capitalism Is a ‘Suicide System’

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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby RocketMan » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:33 am



It's like they keep having him on in order to discredit him and make him seem like a frivolous celeberity but they... just... keep... FAILING!

And now they're desperately latching on to the 9/11 angle, even though it's just an aside and Brand hedges quite heavily on the subject.

Pathetic. At least Paxman had some sense of humour and could think on his feet, this guy is just... flailing about, going for benign condescension but ending up sounding like a school marm.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014 ... 11-attacks

Pressed by Davis on comments in his book about the 9/11 attacks on New York, Brand refused to rule out the possibility that the American government was behind them – and went on to accuse the BBC of promoting an “anti-Islamic narrative” in its coverage of this week’s attack by a gunman on the Canadian parliament.

“I think it is interesting at this time when we have so little trust in our political figures, where ordinary people have so little trust in their media, we have to remain open-minded to any kind of possibility,” he said.

“Do you trust the American government? Do you trust the British government? What I do think is very interesting is the relationship that the Bush family have had for a long time with the Bin Laden family.

“What I do think is very interesting is the way that even the BBC report the events in Ottawa to subtly build an anti-Islamic narrative. I think that’s very interesting.”

Brand then appeared abruptly to change tack, saying that he did not want to discuss “daft” conspiracy theories.
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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:28 am

Russell Brand wants revolution, baby — but only if he can lead it

By Terrence McCoy October 27 at 6:45 AM


These are things Russell Brand likes: chest hair, black Mercedes, potato soup, Twitter and lots of attention.

These are things Russell Brand hates: capitalism, individualism, voting, politics and “corporate” reporters who question him.

This is what Russell Brand wants: Revolution, baby — if he can lead it.

Russell Brand, the manic British comedian mulling a departure from acting to fully focus on the burdens of revolution, appears to be just about the hottest thing going in the United Kingdom right now. There’s little he says that doesn’t get picked up in the media, mostly because everything he says is wild. In the past several weeks, he released a best-selling new book called — yes — “Revolution,” declined to deny rumors he’s running for mayor of London, wondered whether the U.S. government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, completed an absurd interview with the Financial Times in which he told the reporter to “shut up,” and crooned to his millions of supplicants through a myriad of social media.

Right now, Brand has 8.4 million followers on Twitter — ten times more than Prime Minister David Cameron — and hundreds of thousands following his YouTube channel. There, you can listen to the Brandian edict, fired at a machine-gun clip, on his station called “Trews.” True, news — get it? “We regret it already, but even Twitter is kind of a stupid name,” he said in one recent interview. “You think if they could change it they would change it? Of course they would.”

It’s the manner in which he delivers his message – with a fire-and-brimstone fervor — that attracts droves discontented with today’s financial system. It “changed the popular perception of him as an amusing chap who confused a thesaurus with eloquence into the political prophet the country has been waiting for,” wrote Hadley Freeman in the Guardian. ” … It is not entirely clear why this happened.”


His trajectory has also brought a lot of critics. The Financial Times’ Lucy Kellaway, for one, couldn’t quite figure him out. She called some of what he said “nonsense,” despite the infectiousness of his delivery. “Listening to him talk you don’t hear,” she wrote. “Instead, you see his eyes boring into yours, his body wired into a posture of absolute belief.”

And what does he believe? Well, that’s not exactly clear either. But he doesn’t like voting. “My voting thing is not an allergy,” he explained to Kellaway. “The reason I don’t vote is the same reason I don’t eat glitter; there’s no f—— point. … I would suggest total disobedience, total non-compliance and also total organization! Don’t just stop paying your taxes and mortgages on your own, find a group of people to not pay mortgages with you!”

Kellaway tried to protest, but he grabbed her hand.

“Shut up, Lucy,” he told her. “You’re only thinking within very narrow parameters.”

Brand’s sincerity, despite its apparent authenticity, is nonetheless a subject of great debate. He is, after all, an actor. Does he really believe what he’s saying? Or is it a lengthy and lucrative performance? It has won him greater fame than anything he did before and has afforded him the opportunity to rant whenever he wants, because that’s just what revolutionaries do, OK.

Brand once “had the laconic ease of a man who knew he was starting from a place of low expectations, [but] this time around he displays this kind of ecstatic hypomania you’d expect of a celebrity who long ago exceeded the outer limits of his knowledge on this particular subject and is now coasting on the adrenaline of his messiah complex,” Freeman commented in the Guardian.


Indeed, he has coasted into trouble lately. In an interview last week, as a BBC journalist pleaded he was trying to take Brand seriously, the comedian/activist/revolutionary said he was “open-minded” about the idea the U.S. government planned the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

“I think it is interesting at this time when we have so little trust in their media, we have to remain open-minded to any kind of possibility. … Do you trust the American government? Do you trust the British government? What I do think is very interesting is the relationship that the Bush family have had for a long time with the Bin Laden family.”

He then accused the BBC of running “anti-Islamic” programming, accused a business reporter of “being mates with CEOs and big businesses,” and declined to discuss any of his other “daft” conspiracies.

When pressed, Brand parried. “Mate, I don’t want to follow you down blind alleys about silly administrative quibbles.”

“To watch,” the Guardian wrote, “was to watch a man get tangled up in his own manifesto.”
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Re: Comedian Actor Russel Brand dismantles MSNBC show

Postby Nordic » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:30 pm

They're going to try to destroy him.

Grab the popcorn.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:04 pm

London Mayor - Good For Business: Russell Brand The Trews

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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:50 am

“Let’s bear in mind,” he concluded, “that America just had midterm elections where $4 billion was spent on campaigning — which is just telling you that something’s good. But feeding the homeless? That’s illegal.”

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Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:14 pm

I like RusB and agree with most of the stuff he says (watch the trews regularly) but I have to say, that 'Parklife' meme is absolutely spot-on. He'll have to change his writing style now.
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