Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:37 pm wrote:Behold: the power of propaganda. Those billions don't get spent on messaging because it's a corporate culture fad, like cloud computing or "Software as a Service." That shit works and those dividends are huge.
I would submit that precise ambient acceptance (and embrace!) by the US, shall we say, non-critical-thinking Left is largely thanks to RT.COM, which was worth every penny.
I would also submit that, while homophobia is far more violently articulated in Russia, to be sure, it seems like a broad category error indeed to be conflating the military activities of Russia's deep state and political elites with an actual character judgement on 100+ million humans spread out over 6+ million square miles, no?
Any country is inherently forgiveable, yes. Their leadership, not so much -- but then again, proles holding grudges is generally the only accountability they'll ever face. *rimshot*
jingofever » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:41 am wrote:Some people apologized for Stalin and who else. I don't think there is any question that the FSB exploded those apartment buildings. And yet so many things happen in this country that had they occurred in Russia people would be screaming conspiracy. Most recently I am thinking of Hastings and that guy the FBI shot in the head and then offered about sixty contradictory explanations.
DrVolin » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:38 pm wrote:The Russian elites have always natural allies of the Anglo-American elites. This was true every time that push came to shove: 1809, 1914, 1941. Even the Cold War diversion was an engineered stable state between natural allies. It will continue to be true now that the common enemy is China. That's why people apologize for Russia.
‘Pro-Family’ Leaders In Russia Want To Decriminalize Domestic Battery
By Brian Tashman | January 13, 2017 3:21 pm
Two of the “pro-family” lawmakers behind Russia’s ban on “homosexual propaganda” are now behind a bill that would “downgrade assault inside the traditional family unit from a criminal offense to a misdemeanor,” according to a report by Tom Balmforth of Radio Free Europe.
Many U.S. Religious Right activists have become enamored with the Russian leaders behind such “pro-family” policies, claiming that Russia is leading a resurgence of traditional conservative values in the West
The bill, which Balmforth says “is in keeping with the conservative values espoused by President Vladimir Putin and has been protested by antidomestic abuse activists,” appears to have strong support in the Russian Duma.
Olga Batalina, a parliamentarian with Putin’s United Russia party and an author of the bill, is a leader of the so-called “pro-family” movement in Russia and, according to the Associated Press, “championed the law banning the spread of propaganda of ‘nontraditional sexual relations’ among minors,” commonly known as the “homosexual propaganda” ban.
She is a “close ally” of fellow parliamentarian Yelena Mizulina, an author of the anti-gay law and one of its most vocal supporters, and joined with Mizulina in filing a slander lawsuit against a prominent gay rights activist and others for comments they made about the law. Gay Star News noted that Batalina even backed attempts to stop bookstores from selling gay-friendly literature.
Mizulina, who has ties to American anti-LGBTQ activists, is another prominent supporter of the legislation, calling the current statutes on domestic violence “absurd.”
President Vladimir Putin appeared to back the bill when he questioned government “interference with the family.”
Many American Religious Right activists have lauded Russia’s “pro-family” laws as a model for the world, and have particularly admired Putin thanks to his crackdown on LGBTQ Russians. Indeed, this faction’s love for Putin’s homophobia often leads them to either ignore or stay silent about the ways Putin’s government has marginalized non-Russian-Orthodox Christians by outlawing evangelism and backing anti-Protestant militias in Ukraine, his granting of permission for polygamous marriages and the imposition of Sharia law in Chechnya, not to mention his record of crushing dissent and stifling civil rights and democracy.
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