Nordic » Sat May 17, 2014 7:41 pm wrote:lillyPatToo wrote:
My old bookmarks on the occurrence have vanished from the web, but
there was a stunning tulpa generated by, of all people, a bunch of
scientists at Lawrence Livermore Lab many years ago. IIRC, it was also
mentioned in a book, but I can find no mention of it online now.
Well that's quite an eyebrow raiser for me, because the UFO I remember seeing, and I remember it quite well, was in Livermore, CA while sitting on the front step of my house. At the time my Dad was working at the Lawrence Radiation Lab.
I was between the ages of 4 and 6 at the time which would have put it between 1966 and 1969.
Any idea of when the above mentioned event took place?
Could this have been the whole business of Lawrence Livermore scientists and a couple of psychics supposedly coming into contact with a group of entities called "The Nine" and the other seemingly connected weirdnesses? The overall picture included Jack Sarfatti, Uri Geller, Lawrence Livermore, the Esalen Institute, etc.
etc.I thought this had been covered by Jeff, I think in connection with Peter Lavenda's writing about it, but a cursory search finds only a mention. Nor in the forum did I find any details (I must be doing it wrong), but I know I've read a bit about it
somewhere; does any of this ring a bell? -- it was in the 1970s but might have begun in 1952:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cointelpro06.htm
1952
(A) As a child in 1952, Jack Sarfatti claims to have received phone calls from the mechanical voice of a conscious computer aboard a spaceship, recruiting him along with 400 others for some special project. These calls have similarities to the mechanical voice which talked to Andrijah Puharich via his tape recorder. Sarfatti was later associated with Puharich. Puharich first contacts "The Nine" -- a group of channeled being via a medium.
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In the late 1970s, Esalen became involved with an Englishwoman named Jenny O'Connor, who claimed to be in psychic contact with 'the Nine' (probably the same "Nine" that Andriah Puharich claimed to be in contact with). Dick Price and other members of the Esalen staff became increasingly dependent on 'the Nine' to the point of listing them as program leaders and members of the Esalen Gestalt Staff in brochures. (Anderson, pg 302)
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34787.85;wap2
--- Quote ---Uri Geller had been invited to SRI for some informal tests of his abilities in 1972. By 1974, word of his prowess had leaked out around the world, and the nuclear weapons specialists at Lawrence Livermore were concerned that someone with psychic abilities—particularly psychokinesis, an ability Geller demonstrated by bending metal spoons, rings, and other objects with his mind—could detonate a nuclear weapon using only mental energy or could scramble the nation’s military computer systems, thus disabling the country’s missile defences. Therefore, in late 1974 and 1975 a select group of scientists and security officers began testing Geller at an off-site location. The tests showed that Geller could only affect metal objects, computer systems, and computer disks if he was in physical contact with them. There- fore, it was a reasonable assumption that PK was not a threat to the nation’s missile systems.
However, other developments took place that caused not only concern but hysteria among the Lawrence Livermore staff While technicians were listening to the audiotapes routinely made during the Geller PK sessions, they noticed a voice on the tape that had not been there during the tests. It was a “metallic voice” and was largely unintelligible, although the few words that were understood turned out to be top-secret codenames for intelligence operations, names that were unknown to the scientists at Lawrence Livermore. In addition, an infrared camera that had been used during the sessions showed patches of radiation on the laboratory walls where no such radiation should have been present. These were more than merely scientific anomalies. They were captured on tape and film under controlled circumstances. However, this would have been worth a few paragraphs in a report and not much more, were it not for the fact that personnel involved in the Geller experiments began to experi- ence exceedingly strange phenomena.
One of the recurring motifs was the appearance of a flying saucer in the laboratory: a hovering, hologram-like image that would float around and then disappear. And this “saucer” appear- ance was not restricted to the laboratory. Some of the scientists witnessed the phenomenon when they were at home with their families. There was no conceivable explanation for this, no way such a hologram could have been projected inside the secure laboratory environment without a lot of equip- ment and expensive electronics that could have easily been discovered. Since Geller was known to put out the story that he was in communication with extraterrestrial agencies aboard a spacecraft that hovered over the earth, the connection was obvious, but the reason or motivation behind the appari- tions was not.
In addition to the saucer, there were reports of appearances of strange and fantastic animals to the Lawrence Livermore personnel and their families, including very large black birds, ravens, that would appear from nowhere and wander across their lawns … or suddenly appear in the morning standing over their beds. This association of birds with Geller was something that the laboratory staff may have not recognized, for Geller’s supernatural experiences included that of a bird of prey, usually a hawk (symbol for the Egyptian god, Horus).
The appearance of fantastic animals is common in the literature of shamanism, and their purpose is usually totemic in nature; but what was happening to the scientists? As the personnel began to break down and exhibit signs of intense mental distress, the security officer in charge of the group broke down and contacted “Richard Kennett” of the CIA. As Kennett not only had security clearances but was also aware of the psychic research programs and had a doctorate in neurophysiology, he was the logical choice. Kennett listened to the men—some of whom broke down and wept in his presence—describe their symptoms. He was not convinced that this was simply a textbook case of hysteria. These men were scientists with no occult leanings; furthermore, they had all been psychologically vetted, as they were involved with classified government and military projects. It didn’t make sense. And then he listened to the audiotapes, and heard the secret codewords mentioned that none of the Lawrence Livermore staff could have known.
This was not the end of the story, however. One of the scientists received a phone call and heard the “metallic voice” that so often pursues researchers in this field, man and boy, and this time the voice told him to drop the Geller experimentation completely. The team was only too happy to do so, and the “hauntings” gradually stopped.
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(Above, I took the liberty of breaking a long block of text into paragraphs)
And:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34787.85;wap2
--- Quote ---The Nine actually lectured at Esalen! Twenty years after the first appearance of The Nine to the circle around Andrija Puharich, they again manifested in the person of one Jenny O’Connor. Ms. O’Connor was “channeling” The Nine and came to the attention of Werner Erhard, the neo-fascist creator of a school of self-development known as “est,” for “Erhard Seminar Training,” and always printed in lower-case letters. (Erhard had famously changed his name from Jack Rosenberg to “give up Jewish weakness for German strength.”) Sarfatti himself had been a visitor to Arthur Young in the company of Puharich and Ira Einhorn, and had worked sporadically with Arthur Young’s Institute in Berkeley, California. Oddly enough, he seems not to have been aware of Young’s involvement with The Nine in its earliest incarnation. In the late 1970s, Jenny O’Connor was referred to Sarfatti by one of the est people, and Sarfatti was not impressed. Nonetheless, O’Connor became ensconced at Esalen, channeling messages from The Nine and having influence over some management decisions and organizational structuring at the Institute, at the same time that Esalen was being visited by Soviet officials as well as by Einhorn, various physicists, Stanislav Grof (who was “Scholar-in-Residence” from 1973 to 1987), and many, many others.
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