Las Vegas Shooting Spree, June 2014

[Hunter]

So here we have him railing against FASCIST RULE yet they have swatizies all over? What. The. Fuck.


Also love how he admits he is taking the easy way out, this guy makes no fucking sense he probably doesnt even know what liberty is, he has been brainwashed reading stupid shit and listening to stupid people.

[justdrew]

I smell LaRouche

all over these shitheads, the worst of the so-called "men's rights activists" and certainly on whoever the primary agents of chaos are behind the 'crisis actors' "movement"

cointelpro, cognitive infiltration, time-wasting, life destroying bullshit, from one end of the fucking internet to the other. Make no mistake, full-on psiwar is being waged by multiple actors against the American and Global human population.

It's the "no planers" all over again times a thousand.

[jingofever]

They pinned swastikas on the cops as if to say, "cops are Nazis". That is what the cops say.

[Hunter]

They pinned swastikas on the cops as if to say, "cops are Nazis". That is what the cops say.

TY now I understand, the media however is calling them neo nazis which is what confused me.

[Hunter]

I smell LaRouche

all over these shitheads, the worst of the so-called "men's rights activists" and certainly on whoever the primary agents of chaos are behind the 'crisis actors' "movement"

cointelpro, cognitive infiltration, time-wasting, life destroying bullshit, from one end of the fucking internet to the other. Make no mistake, full-on psiwar is being waged by multiple actors against the American and Global human population.

It's the "no planers" all over again times a thousand.

AGREE internet is ruined, there is no fun or value in it anymore, its on its last legs as we once knew it.

[jingofever]

Judging by the comments I am reading on Infowars I am expecting similar shootings.

[BOOGIE66]

Hunter » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:47 pm

if they were high on meth it wouldnt be hard to go off and do something crazy like this. I am just trying to understand.

Not really. Meth addicts would have sold/traded the guns for more dope, & the money saved on ammo buys more dope. I have known a couple meth heads. Their mentality is "need more dope" not "lets go shoot cause meths!".



As for the "obsession" with comic characters and dressing up, ever hear of comic-con? There are TV shows about cosplay and cosplay conventions. It's a HUGE sub-culture.



Playing Halloween more than once a year doesn't make someone into a killer. Correlation is not causation.



It's like they are saying: "these people dressed up in costumes and killed others, therefore the costumes and characters they represent (who are violent) are to blame" as if that is a valid conclusion.

It's not the mental instability, & weird obsessive tendencies that were missed and subsequently led to the killers having easy access to guns that is the problem. it's the costumes that the killers wore while killing that we need to worry about. Fuckers.

[BOOGIE66]

They pinned swastikas on the cops as if to say, "cops are Nazis". That is what the cops say.

The same cops who have killed over 100 people since 1990. Including 31 in 2011. From here"

Shootings valleywide have generally increased over time, from just two in 1990 to a record 31 last year. From 1990 to 2000, there was an average of slightly more than 12 shootings per year. Since then, it's been more than 21 per year. While the valley's population has more than doubled in 20 years, the number of shootings has not been proportional — it varies greatly by year — and the number of shootings per capita in 2010 was nearly double that of each of the previous three, slow-growth years.

I'd say calling Vegas cops Nazis is pretty spot on.

[8bitagent]

Not too get too deep into a Coleman sync mode...BUT...

There was all this focus on misogyny in the UCSB shootings....a focus on the Batman Joker thing in the Aurora shootings... a focus on jihad/anti war beliefs in the Boston Bombing.
Feelings of alienation in the Sandy Hook, Omaha Mall, Giffords/Safeway shootings, or VT Tech.

But you know what all these 2007-2014 mass shootings/violence events have in common? They are all being done by loner loser 22-24 year olds. Remember the 1997-1999
high school shooters? The paradigm shifted.

I see the common thread as these on average 22 year olds. Its not any one target or political ideology. Crowded movie theaters, malls, shopping centers, schools, etc.

[American Dream]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... llers.html

Hatriot Politics Created the Las Vegas Killers

Jerad and Amanda Miller, the Wingnuts whose killing spree left two policemen, a civilian, and themselves dead, were inspired by fright-wing radio hosts and militia movement groups.


The obsessively anti-government Hatriot movement moved from cultivating conspiracy theories to real killing on Sunday in Las Vegas.

The Wingnut Bonnie and Clyde duo, Jerad and Amanda Miller, stormed into CiCi’s Pizza and shot two metro cops, Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo, at close range while shouting “This is a revolution!” They flung the Tea Party’s favorite coiled snake Gadsden flag and a swastika on the still-warm corpses and then moved to a nearby Walmart to murder a shopper before turning the guns on themselves.

But the crime scene chronology only tells part of the story—because the Millers’ Massacre had been brewing for a long time, visible online. Their Facebook pages detail a descent into a murderous rage, railing against a tyrannical government and parroting talking points from fright-wing radio hosts such as Alex Jones and militia movement groups such as the Three Percenters while “liking” the pages of conservative activist groups ranging from the Heritage Foundation to FreedomWorks and the NRA. Miller’s profile picture was a skull wearing an American flag bandana against a backdrop of crossed knives over the word “Patriot.”

“There is no greater cause to die for than liberty,” Jerad Miller posted on May 2. “Yes, standing before despots is dangerous and most likely does not end well for you. I know this, my wife knows this. Soon they will come for us, because they don’t like what we think, and what we say. They don’t like the fact that we, simply will not submit to fascist rule.”

The “fascist rule” Miller wrote about was the U.S. government—and his intended targets were broader than two police officers.

Police sources confirm that the Millers conspired to infiltrate an unidentified court building and execute public officials. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Monday that Kelley Fielder, who called the Millers “best friends,” said they left her with a box of documents that officials report included a written plan to murder court officials. The box was recovered Sunday during a police search of Fielder’s apartment. The search also found three empty rifle cases and an empty box used for handcuffs.

These are the wages of hate: two dead police officers and one innocent civilian, all with young children, sacrificed to fulfill a twisted vision sold by online snake-oil salesmen and professional polarizers.

Jerad Miller’s anti-government frenzy was whipped up by the extreme right wing echo chamber. Earlier this year, Miller responded to calls to stand with Cliven Bundy in and declared common cause with the renegade rancher. “I will be supporting Clive Bundy and his family from Federal Government slaughter,” he wrote. “This is the next Waco! His ranch is under siege right now! The federal gov is stealing his cattle! Arresting his family and beating on them! We must do something, I will be doing something.” When Miller returned from Bundy’s ranch, he posted that “BLM [Bureau of Land Management] snipers were all over the place.”

Miller’s anti-government rants ramped up after he served seven days in jail for a pot-related conviction. After his sentencing in 2013, he proudly posted: “Mark one up for freedom today. I stood before a fascist judge today and implied that he was a Nazi.”

According to Amanda Miller’s Facebook page, she worked at the Hobby Lobby as head of the needlework department. (Hobby Lobby has been embroiled in a faith-based lawsuit over covering contraception as part of the Affordable Care Act.) In addition to dressing as The Joker and his date for a Halloween party and exchanging gun-related gifts, the couple’s favorite book according their Facebook page was the Bible. They apparently skipped over some key sections, such as the New Testament.

There have been reflexive attempts to associate some recent mass shooters with the right-wing politics of incitement. The common denominator in most cases has been mental illness and access to guns, as in the case of Rep. Gabby Giffords would-be assassin, Jared Lee Loughner.

But in the Las Vegas case, the extremist political fingerprints are clear. Jerad Miller was a product of his environment, the unhinged right wing echo chamber and its constant drumbeat about government tyranny being imposed on freedom-loving citizens. “Either you stand with freedom, or you side with tyranny,” Miller wrote on his Facebook page in March. “There is no middle ground. We have deluded ourselves into such a notion. There is no grey area.”

Miller was a vocal supporter of libertarian Ron Paul, posting during the fall of 2012: “Ron Paul is the only hope for america and we have all failed him, our children and our grandchildren by failing to demand fair coverage of all presidential candidates. Today and everyday that passes by our country falls deeper into the clutches of fascist hands. Hope you wake up before its to late, hell, it may already be to late.”

Miller reposted articles from Alex Jones’s InfoWars website, promoted slogans about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives being a domestic terrorist organization, and was deeply into Second Amendment advocacy organizations. Significantly down the political food chain, Miller also seemed to identify with the sovereign citizens movement and the Three Percenters organization, whose founder Mike Vanderboegh’s homepage warns, “All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war.”




But the murderous Millers did not appear on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s exhaustive Hatewatch list. They were relatively new recruits whose radicalism was cultivated in online conversations about conspiracy theories ranging from ChemTrails to fluoride in the water supply. They were unhinged souls looking for a cause and found it in the belief that hating the government was patriotic.

When news of their attack filtered into the echo chamber that inspired them, Jones attempted a desperate but typical flip of the script, claiming that the attack was a false flag operation perpetrated by Harry Reid. “There is so much proof of this being staged yesterday, when I first read about it, and this morning, that my mind exploded with hundreds of data points, and quite frankly it’s conclusive,” Jones told his audience of enthusiastic dupes. “I kept telling, they’re getting ready to false flag, and it happens right in Harry Reid’s district, right in his state, right in his city, with his police department.”

These are the wages of hate: two dead police officers and one innocent civilian, all with young children, sacrificed to fulfill a twisted vision sold by online snake-oil salesmen and professional polarizers. The politics of incitement has a real cost when it comes in contact with armed alarmists who cross the crucial dividing line from being willing to die for a cause and being willing to kill for one.

[JackRiddler]

Miller’s anti-government rants ramped up after he served seven days in jail for a pot-related conviction.

Fuck the government that would do that! Why the hell wouldn't his "anti-government rants" ramp up after that?! That's not "anti-government," however, and the Daily Beast article (as with most pieces on that horrible site) is another example of the confusionism that begins with false dichotomy (not that there aren't real dichotomies). The nutso right wing, which is authoritarian at its property-worshiping, racist and patriarchal core, is ironically employed as a device to discipline left-liberals into statist authoritarian ideology. It's hilarious at a place like Democratic Underground, where of course to the truest believers everything evil is always exclusively Republican, but much sophistry is invested in arguing that a Romney is somehow not as bad as a Paul (they're identical in every way except for the ways in which Paul happens to be better, e.g. on drugs and war!). "Terrorism" and "crime" and "minorities" perform the fear function for the mainstream and the right, while the genuinely nutso right wing is presented so as to keep left-liberals rocking the exact same flag and living in perpetual fear of their own potential thought crimes (i.e., running from anything that is designated in the MSM as "conspiracy theory," among other things). I'm also overawed at how the genuine left organizes righteous protests against the Kochs but doesn't understand the foundation system and seeks money from the likes of Gates, a force at least as pernicious and influential and as effective in pushing the neoliberal program, but far more effective in presenting itself as a "philanthropy."

[elfismiles]

A hoax claiming that Charles Manson, who is responsible for the murders of several people, is free from jail has made its way around the ...

It's getting ridiculous with all these hoaxes, combined with my apparent encroaching senility! All these dumbfucks be proud of making clickbait out of fake news stories presented in quasi-plausible, non-humorous style. I've fallen for a couple in the past week, whereas I almost never did before. Sigh. There was one from the Portland Intelligencer the other day, claiming to link to the promised Greenwald "NSA list" story. It instead went to the PI's Facebook page, so that you could "like" it. This is morally equivalent to spam, or worse really, and I will remember & resent this publication henceforth for wasting my time!

New thread for that here:

PKD-esque Post-911 Surreality Satire Hoax News Matrix
Post by elfismiles » 10 Jun 2014 13:43
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Actually she's the third female mass shooter in the U.S., but sorry, they're a couple and so she doesn't count as stand-alone. It's not clear she'd have ever gone this route on her own, though not impossible -- they are saying she shot him and then herself, reversing the usual "murder-suicide" pattern.

The two prior female mass shooters were Brenda "I Don't Like Mondays" Spencer (1979) & Amy Bishop (2010), the one who massacred her fellow biology professors after they rejected her tenure bid. I started an RI thread for that one, titling it something like "first female mass shooter," but I'd forgot about Brenda Spencer. And this despite the song, which I sing to myself all the time. (Ah, Geldof, if only you'd ever only been known for the Boomtown Rats, I would like you still!)

Whoa! Thanks for that Jack! I know I've heard this song but somehow I had not grokked the lyrics, didn't realize it was about shootings nor that it includes a reference to a mind-control chip in her head!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8LxTlEkYUI

The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload,
And nobody's gonna go to school today,
She's going to make them stay at home,
And daddy doesn't understand it,
He always said she was as good as gold,
And he can see no reason
Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be shown

'Tell me why
I don like Mondays'(x3)
I want to shoot
The whole day down

The Telex machine is kept so clean
As it types to a waiting world,
And Mother feels so shocked,
Father's world is rocked,
And their thoughts turn to
Their own little girl
Sweet 16 ain't that peachy keen,
No, it ain't so neat to admit defeat,
They can see no reasons
Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need

'Tell me why
I don like Mondays' (x3)
I want to shoot
The whole day down

And now the playing's stopped in the playground now
She wants to play with her toys a while
And school's out early and soon we'll be learning
And the lesson today is how to die,
And then the bullhorn crackles,
And the captain crackles,
With the problems and the how's and why's
And he can see no reasons
Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to die..die
ohh~

'Tell me why
I don like Mondays' (x7)
I want to shoot
The whole day down

Read more: Bob Geldof - I Don't Like Monday Lyrics | MetroLyrics

EDITED to clarify quote sourcing.

[elfismiles]

NBC News’ Nevada affiliate spoke with the alleged Las Vegas shooter Jerad Miller about his support for Cliven Bundy.
Published June 9th 2014, 7:27 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jer ... dy-n126941


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6b2y9jVkAo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rspbrdSNB8M

[Laodicean]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfK1UVZHD5MExf6SP1JjUpA/videos

https://www.facebook.com/amanda.woodruff.9

https://www.facebook.com/jerad.miller.1

Oh, try and mimic what's insane
I am in it...where do I stand?
Oh, Indian summer and I hate the heat
I got a backstreet lover on the passenger seat
I got my hand in my pocket, so determined, discreet...I pray...
Once upon a time I could CONTROL myself
Ooh, once upon a time I could LOSE myself, yeah, yeah...

[American Dream]

Weird thought:

Could the shooters have posted here?